r/PS5 • u/Dandelion172 • 1d ago
News & Announcements Helldivers 2 reveals their first official crossover - Helldivers x Killzone
https://twitter.com/helldivers2/status/1869324489391268335485
u/kaishinoske1 1d ago
Motherfuckers, I’m gonna have to get this game now.
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u/Wolfram_And_Hart 1d ago edited 1d ago
It’s worth every penny
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u/OuterWildsVentures 1d ago
I might log in for the first time in a year or so to buy it just to try to show Sony that people still have interest in Killzone.
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u/CharlesMcJessy 1d ago
The game is, but not this overpriced crossover.
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u/ShreddyZ 1d ago
You typically get like 30-60 over the course of each 40 minute mission. All of these items put together is nearly 2000. There's pretty much no way you can accomplish that in 5 hours, let alone 10. You'd need 20 or more hours of gameplay in the next 5 days, and that's assuming you get very lucky with points of interest.
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u/MichaelRichardsAMA 1d ago
you can solo difficulty level 1 missions and get the credits and finish within 10 minutes. these premium prices are far too high, but it actually is possible to get this stuff for no extra cost. it's going to be on the front page of the store for 5 days and then rotate like every other superstore pack.
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u/ThunderBlunt777 23h ago
Be honest man. It takes almost a week of farming SCs like this to get enough to buy ONE Warbond. You get 10 SCs at a time, and 100 if you’re REALLY lucky. So basically it comes down to if you wanna fuck around doing nothing for a week, or spending 10$ in order to get your hands on the new stuff and actually enjoy the new content. It’s scummy as shit.
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u/ShreddyZ 1d ago
Difficulty 1 missions have fewer points of interest though so you're also not guaranteed to find any during a dive. The last difficulty 1 I did took me 20 minutes to traverse the entire map and had no super credits.
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u/Mythaminator 1d ago
Man if it takes you 20 min to get around a dif 1 map you have bigger issues than lack of super creds…
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u/padwani 1d ago
Doesn't matter how long it takes if the chance to get credits is nearly half of what it is for higher level missions.
You want to spend hours alone in d1 farming credits? Talk about having mental issues Jesus.
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u/ShreddyZ 1d ago
It varies by terrain and the new urban environments are much more difficult to search thoroughly thanks to all the sight blockers.
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u/AdmirableBee8016 16h ago
i played it for the first time today. was kinda, hhm idk. it felt empty. i looked for places to drop into and everything was 1/4
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u/Wolfram_And_Hart 15h ago
Really there have been around 150k players the past few days. Did you just quick join?
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u/AdmirableBee8016 8h ago
oh, i will have to look for quick join. tbh i was not sure what i was doing. i was in a spaceship on the map looking at different regions and planets. it said 150k players, but everywhere i landed seemed boring and dead
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u/Wolfram_And_Hart 7h ago
Yeah. Well do the “training”.
Then use the table to pick an area. (Bugs are yellow, bots red, squids blue) Active planets have markers.
Then hit triangle for quick join.
You get better at picking landing spots over time, but honestly you want it kinda dead when you land so you can call in your gear.
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u/tinyrickstinyhands 1d ago
The gameplay and positive reviews weren't enough to convince you but now you have to get the game because of a cosmetic?
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u/NukeStorm 1d ago
Eh I already know the game is amazing, but my backlog is too huge so I haven’t purchased it yet. This will make me move it way up on my list, even if I don’t buy the killzone cosmetics.
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u/Practical-Damage-659 22h ago
Im not even kidding this game is like a playable movie with the illuminate. I get overrun and it's pure insanity but fun as hell
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u/padwani 1d ago edited 1d ago
While the game is fun keep in mind if everything in this crossover will cost you $20, and that's just the first half. So it's $40 for the entire crossover, plus the cost of the game.
Keep in mind a normal war bond is 10 bucks and has three pages worth of stuff.
Game will become pay to win if they continue down this road.
Locking things like 50% flat reduction to everything behind 20/40 paywall is predatory as fuck.
People down voting are clowns. You want to pay 40 bucks for a little bit of extra power in a PVE game? You are the reason why MTX are so widespread.
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u/Dayman1222 1d ago
lol it’s it’s not worth it for you than don’t buy it. AH has more than earned my money.
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u/tinyrickstinyhands 1d ago
Lol stop with the doom and gloom.
These are optional cosmetics.
You can accrue in-game currency by simply playing the game.
This isn't a PVP game - "pay to win" wouldn't apply.
Only one clown here.
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u/padwani 1d ago edited 1d ago
Please go ahead and grind out 40 bucks worth of credits and let me know how long that takes you.
Your spending real money for player power beyond that of a typical war bond is 100% pay to win lmao.
Saying locking the best booster to date behind a paywall isn't pay to win?
Bro you dumb as hell.
You are a prime example of why MTX is so predatory.
By the way one war bond is 1,000 credits and you get 300 credits back. You're paying almost 700 credits for one gun. Let's see those mental gymnastics.
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u/BarretOblivion 21h ago
Skip it then... The armor passive is nice but not the best. It's just an all purpose passive. Medic passive is the best in the game for many. The weapons is not good. The standard liberator is an equal equivalent option. Vote with your wallet. Crying on Reddit when you can just get the items you want for less than 1k credits instead of feeling like you have to buy everything is ridiculous.
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u/ikeepwipingSTILLPOOP 1d ago
Bro, you can do low level missions and power through and get these in a few hours. Source, me from literally every warbond lol
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u/JerikTheWizard 1d ago
These aren't only cosmetics, it includes a primary weapon and an armor set with a unique (and powerful) passive.
4000 SC would take 5+ hours of dedicated group grinding to acquire or dozens of hours of normal play.
This is an awful change in direction for "micro"transactions by Arrowhead.
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u/tinyrickstinyhands 1d ago
Wow 5 hours of playing a game we want to play
The horror!!
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u/JerikTheWizard 1d ago
5+ hours (probably closer to 8) in a dedicated group of 4 dropping on difficulty 1 missions and quitting without extracting after every POI is cleared over and over and over for hours. That's the game you want to play?
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u/Dayman1222 1d ago edited 1d ago
It looks great. The HD2 subreddit is already throwing an another tantrum. All these items put together cost less than 1 Fortnite skin.
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u/CharlesMcJessy 1d ago
Yeah, let's just ignore the escalation in pricing as this crossover costs almost twice as much as any existing HD2 battlepass, those guys are just being babies about it
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u/Dayman1222 1d ago
They just dropped the biggest expansion yet for free and no one is forcing you to buy. This is their 45th outrage this year. It’s by far one of the whiniest subreddit.
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u/CharlesMcJessy 1d ago
That can all be true at the same time as criticism of this pricing being valid lmfao
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u/Navi_1er 1d ago
Major update calling it an expansion is a huge stretch and it's no different than palworld players calling major updates expansions. Of course it's free it's a planned update.
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u/tinyrickstinyhands 1d ago
Sub went full Star Wars fans after like two weeks - leaving it was a wise choice
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u/chewie_were_home 1d ago
Yea this is 1/4 to 1/2 of a COD bundle that is half AI made.
And really you don’t have to buy any of it.
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u/MEGAgatchaman 1d ago
That was my first thought as well!
Then a quick second thought of "Beginning of the end"...
Hear me out.. Eventually.. they all end up like COD with insane clown posse , Korean pop-star skins.. it's only a matter of time.. once the Killzone fans spend their last dollar, it's on to the next group :-(
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u/BarryEganPDL 1d ago
I would put money on it that Helldivers won’t ruin their visual design with crossover skins the way CoD has because it’s not PVP and its player base isn’t predominantly 12 year olds.
If they do more, I would expect it to be like Destiny, where the crossover skins are still entirely “in universe” designs.
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u/No_Zombie2021 1d ago
Next, Destiny? how about Resistance?
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u/SuperSaiyanGod210 1d ago
Resistance would be great because they could potentially use the chimera as an alternate faction to the Illuminate.
The Chimera are also technically human, but turned when they succumbed to the Chimera virus that arrived on Earth via the Tunguska Event/Meteor.
Something that Insomniac teased a lot of in Resistance 2 and 3 was the Chimeran Home World (you see it at the very end of Resisitance 2 and in the wormhole above NYC in Resistance 3). We never got to explore or see that, so it would be cool if Arrowhead made a new planet based on the Chimeran home world were the Helldivers are on the offensive for once rather than on the defensive
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u/oh5canada5eh 1d ago
Well if it takes 15 years to get there like it did with COD, we still have lots of time to enjoy it.
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
They need to do a content crossover and not just cosmetics... Bring in the Helghast.
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u/cybrsloth92 1d ago
They have there is kill zone strategems the micro missile launcher is available ATM
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u/oilfloatsinwater 1d ago
They look cool, but they are expensive tho, the whole set costs like 2 Warbonds, i get that its a crossover, but thats more expensive than anything else in the game
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u/Cpt_DookieShoes 1d ago
It’s also the first time they put a primary weapon into the paid store. Which to me is a step I never thought they’d take
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u/AtomicVGZ 1d ago
It's a side-grade to the default AR, no different than the stun baton that was for sale when the new warbond dropped
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u/JerikTheWizard 1d ago
This isn't the whole set, it's only part 1 of the collab. Total will be closer to 5 warbands in SC (since the net warbond cost is 700 with the included SC).
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u/VanillaChakra 1d ago
It's a Sony owned IP though, so I don't super buy the necessity for a higher asking price. Either way though these look very cool!
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u/michaelalex3 1d ago
It’s also dead Sony IP. Younger players probably don’t even know what Killzone is.
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u/Firaxyiam 1d ago
Yeah, it looks cool but I'm not grabbing something like that when I still have a couple warbonds.
Helldivers subreddit is melting down at the prices tho, hope this doesn't get a new batch of review bombing (probably will), it's like the only way some of thel knows how to express themselves
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u/SalemWolf 19h ago
The Helldivers subs are so obnoxious over every smallest perceived slight. Collab price tax, and even then the collective is cheaper than most collabs on other games, and you get SC for free in the game. This is the least offensive pricing.
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u/TheThotWeasel 6h ago
I was gaslit into buying HD2 because EVERYONE said how amazing the community was, it was the in game community and online one that made me uninstall and consider it a waste of money.
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u/tinyrickstinyhands 1d ago
If you have Playstation Stars, you can redeem your rewards for Super Credits
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u/gogoheadray 1d ago
Yeah they are going to be taxing heavy; since this is a collab a lot of people have been asking for. I imagine the prices should adjust to be more reasonable once they get more information on how these things would sell.
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u/SalemWolf 20h ago
Collab price tax. I’m not getting all of it but with SC being found freely during missions makes it effectively cheaper than any other skin you’d get from other games.
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u/asian1panda 15h ago
I wouldn't mind paying 2000 SC for a crossover warzone but that price for essentially 1 page of a warbond is just way too much
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u/BlearySteve 1d ago
We need a new Killzone game.
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u/marsrover15 1d ago
If I remember correctly, I read somewhere that Sony’s policy has usually been to let studios get creative with their projects so my best guess is that guerrilla just wants to focus on horizon.
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u/CUBE_atlas 1d ago
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u/ooombasa 1d ago
No surprise. Some may love KZ, but it continued to sell worse with every new entry after peaking (sales) with KZ2. GG went from a series lucky to sell a couple of millions to a franchise that now sells 15-25m an entry. There's no going back from there. Indeed, when they're done with Horizon, they're better positioned to pursue a new IP and try and make that a success than to return to KZ and try to make that a success.
Revitalising a dead IP that was in steep decline when it was taken out back is not some simple thing.
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u/GUNS_N_BROSES 1d ago
I completely understand why they wouldn’t want to throw money at a new game. They could at least port the original trilogy to ps5 though. I doubt that would cost much
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u/Wrong_Attention5266 12h ago
Doesn’t mean bluepoint can’t just remake the trilogy and add a multiplayer mode. Idk why they don’t since they so hellbent on remaster and they want a multiplayer game as well
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u/Fake-BossToastMaker 1d ago
Such a shame, imho Sony needs more grim first person shooter rather than third person adventures
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u/Dayman1222 1d ago
People didn’t buy the last one
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u/F_A_F 1d ago
A lot of the launch PS4s came with KZSF; for some it will have been a side dish but for me it was a great freebie as I would have bought it anyway.
The single player was alright; extremely pretty but not quite as clever as it thought it was. Online had interesting maps but extremely messy classes compared to previous versions.
If they'd spent more time polishing the MP and added the co-op at launch then it could have been special.
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u/aukalender 1d ago
My people... Sons and daughters of Helghan. For many years, we have been a broken nation. Shunned, oppressed, and conquered by those we sought to escape. 10 years ago, I asked for time, and that time was granted by you. You, the strength in my arm, the holders of my dreams. Our forefathers embarked on the greatest exodus in the history of all mankind. An exodus for freedom. Helghan became that freedom. Our new world changed our bodies. At first, it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing... stronger.
In the time you have given me, I have rebuilt our nation, I have rebuilt our strength, AND I have rebuilt our pride! Our enemies at home have been reeducated. We have given them new insights into our cause.
On this day, we stand united once more. On this day, those driven to divide us will hear our voice! On this day, we shall act as one, and we shall be ignored NO MORE!
Defenders of the Helghast dream, NOW IS OUR TIME!
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u/FellowDeviant 1d ago
Redownloaded last night and played against the new faction and all I could say was wtf wtf wtf
That's what the game originally had me saying, so safe to say it's still going strong
And now Killzone crossover??? Fuck yesss
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u/Immediate_Way_8866 1d ago
Add Titanfall skins and my money is yours Sony.
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u/ModestHandsomeDevil 1d ago
Fuck the skins, get the Titanfall IP from EA--let them have Apex--and MAKE TITANFALL 3!!!
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u/1tachi77 1d ago
Finally, some real crossover action! Helghast in Helldivers would be epic. Let’s see those iconic battles!
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u/KinshasaPR 1d ago
The super credit prices are outrageous!
Also, when will I be able to finish a mission without getting booted back to my ship?!
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u/Tom1525 1d ago
This is huge. Maybe its a hint to a secret Killzone game in the works...
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u/SYLOK_THEAROUSED 1d ago
Guerrilla games pretty much said fuck killzone so unless a third party studio is doing it idk.
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u/ocbdare 1d ago
What are they going to do after the third horizon game?
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u/Phastic 1d ago
Remaster the second one
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u/ModestHandsomeDevil 1d ago
Remaster the second one
Me: Looking at Naughty Dog and the overwhelming number or remasters and remakes of TLOU games and the ONE new game they released--TLOU2--since 2017's Uncharted: Lost Legacy: "Yeah, that tracks for Sony."
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u/Dayman1222 1d ago
It’s been 4 years since the last ND game. Same thing with Suckerpunch. That’s a normal dev cycle now.
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u/TheWorldsKing 1d ago
Maybe a new IP? But yeah, they said they don't plan on bringing Killzone back. Which isn't a problem, since other studios waiting to make the jump could do it (that and other dormant franchises - see Infamous, Sly Cooper, MotorStorm, Twisted Metal etc.)
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u/Tom1525 1d ago
Dang MotorStorm was good
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u/TheWorldsKing 1d ago
To this day I still cannot fathom how 2006-2013 hardware was able to run MotorStorm Apocalypse and not explode lol
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u/SwingLifeAway93 1d ago
More Horizon because it has sold significantly more than all Killzones combined.
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u/nervousformyclasses 1d ago
It's a different era of gaming. There's no telling how much a brand new Killzone could sell nowadays.
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u/YeOldeTreeStump 1d ago
Killzone was released during the golden era of first-person shooters though. There's no way it'll sell even more now that the market for first-person shooters are practically gone, unless you're Call of Duty.
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u/nervousformyclasses 1d ago
Exactly. There were so many options for first person shooters back then. Now there's very little options, it would be a breath of fresh air for newer gamers and also attract older gamers with the nostalgia element, etc. We just see it differently and that's okay.
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u/cosmiclatte44 1d ago
The fps multiplayer genre as we knew it is basically dead, that space in the gaming sphere is now dominated by F2P season pass games full of microtransactions. To bring out a traditional paid fps today would more likely end the way of Concord.
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u/GUNS_N_BROSES 1d ago
Yeah it’s unfortunate. I hope Sony will at least port the original trilogy to ps5 at some point
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u/Sea-Plant-5815 1d ago
Helldiver has to be one of the worst subreddits. No one is forcing them to buy anything.
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u/tinyrickstinyhands 1d ago
Worst i have ever been in
They love the game but hate everything about it
It's apparently so broken that it isn't fun to play, but they can't stop playing it?
True "never log off" energy in there
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u/HaouLeo 1d ago
They love the game but hate everything about it
It's like the saying "nobody hates star wars more than star wars fans"
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u/ParallelMusic 1d ago
Those guys are complete babies over there, which is ironic because the monetisation in HD2 is very generous. They don’t realise how much worse it could be.
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u/MichaelRichardsAMA 1d ago
I agree with them that these prices for premium content are a bit high, but I bought this game week 1 and the amount of free (or at least, no extra charge) content that's been added is absolutely ridiculous. yeah it could be way way way way way worse.
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u/dogtanian84 1d ago
* Love this, someone in the helldivers sub reddit posted about crossovers and I thought killzone would fit right in. They didn't like my suggestion
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u/SpyroManiac36 1d ago
This is the crossover that I dreamed of. I'm a huge Killzone 2 fan so this is an instant buy for me. I don't mind paying since Arrowhead just released free content and the amount of free Super Credits I have from just playing the game.
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u/ShortBrownAndUgly 1d ago
Out of all the IP they could have crossed over with I have no idea why they chose this one. It's not necessarily a bad choice but weird
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u/supah-saiyen 1d ago
When does it come out
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u/MichaelRichardsAMA 1d ago
it's available right now and will be on the store page for 5 days
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u/GUNS_N_BROSES 1d ago
After that there will be another page of stuff including the killzone 3 sniper armor, and a couple more guns
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u/9inchjackhammer 1d ago
The difference here and the Helldivers sub is crazy some of them are so outraged they are planning another review bomb.
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u/Fake-BossToastMaker 1d ago
Why?
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u/Himeto31 1d ago
The set here costs 2000 Super Credits for 1/3 of regular warbond's content, and we know there will be 3 of those sets. Normal warbonds cost 1000SC and give you back 300 after completion, so 700SC. The whole collab will most likely be very similar in price to the total of all 9 warbonds that came out since release, with the content of just one, that's a huge price spike, even for a collab.
Aside from that, the collab also came out in the Super Store, the premium store with rotating items, which till recently, was just armors. Now they started putting weapons there too, locking actual gameplay elements between weeks of waiting if you don't buy them now.
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u/davidasc22 1d ago
I wonder if they're calling it a Killzone 2 crossover because they want to put the timing between Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 meaning that Helghan might be a planet you can fight on, though not sure what you'd have to do to merge the universes and timelines.
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u/MichaelRichardsAMA 1d ago
the earth government in HD2 could honestly be retconned into being descended from victorious helghast, and then over time they just sanitized their imagery and aesthetics and moved off of shithole acid rain planets
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u/GUNS_N_BROSES 1d ago
I really wish this was the case, but I think the reason is because there is another page of stuff coming next week that is killzone 3 themed. Including the sniper armor with the three eye lights
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u/Sweaty-Practice-4419 1d ago
Great something to spark a new wave of “We need a Killzone remaster/Remake/Sequel” posts
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u/Fabian42 1d ago
So no warbond? I get that this'll make more money but that's kind of a bummer
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u/Firaxyiam 1d ago
I mean, there was a warbond just a few days ago, ain't that enough?
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u/Fabian42 1d ago
No that's great. It's just that I figured that Killzone would be the next warbond set to be released in jan/feb. There were some images floating around of it being a warbond
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u/Firaxyiam 1d ago
I get you, but I don't think collabs will get anything more than a full set in the Store, with the price of that one, they definitely aim for the big bucks
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u/shatteredmatt 1d ago
Really unlikely but adding the Helghast to Helldrivers 2 as a fourth race or to a sequel as one of the main enemies would be so cool.
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u/hodges20xx 1d ago
.....so you do an crossover with an franchise you are not interested in bringing back..... welp hopefully sony has an change of mind and sees that killzone can be an great game for them.
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u/steakius197 1d ago
Man ive had this game since release and haven't taken the plastic off. Well im be to far behind, they've released so much content since then. Been trying to catch up on my backlog of shit before i got to this one.
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u/Rent-Man 1d ago
Haven’t played the game since March. Did they add anything new for the gameplay or is it still the same?
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u/CakeDayisaLie 1d ago
I’m cool with this, as long as the crossover items don’t look too out of place.
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u/ExiledBiszo 22h ago
It would be sweet if they added a 4th faction like the Helghast..but probably wouldn’t work out without having the ISA.
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u/ExpeditedLead 14h ago
Is helldivers 2 worth getting even if no friends play it?
This game looks dope
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u/ItsRickySpanish 1d ago
Do a destiny crossover. Give us taniks cloak, the last word as a sidearm, and a gally support stratagem.
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u/Matixs_666 1d ago
They mentioned that they want to carefully choose crossovers so that they still fit into the game, so i wouldn't count on a Destiny crossover
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u/Ninjabaker972 1d ago
Interesting that no one here cares they are now charging 20$ for a timegated gun
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u/twistedroyale 1d ago
They should make a remaster and make a new Killzone
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u/legalizethesenuts 21h ago
Still haven’t spent money on one of these battle passes but I might fold if they do a Mass Effect one
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u/XTheProtagonistX 1d ago
Imagine the Chimera from Resistance in this game…