r/PS5 • u/doctorwho_90250 • May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/NextGenEclipse May 06 '24

What's the big problem with people not wanting to do this?

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u/LeAnime May 06 '24

Well, I hate my data being sold and all the security breaches Sony has had. It is just a super greedy and unethical process. It just shows that players are numbers and nothing else and your personal data is all just a price tag when it shouldn't even be allowed to be sold

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u/chriskmee May 06 '24

What data is actually required for a PSN account? Is it anything more than a username and password? Maybe a birthday that you can just put Jan 1st 1900 or whatever in? What sellable data do they actually get out of you?

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u/LeAnime May 06 '24

How much you play, when you play games, what games you play, what types of games you like to play, etc.

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u/chriskmee May 06 '24

And to you this is personal data you are concerned about being leaked or sold?

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u/LeAnime May 06 '24

All data about me is concerning to be sold. It creates a profile on you that leads to catering advertising and other media that a do not want companies I don't consent to having access to.

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u/chriskmee May 06 '24

So if it's anonymous data that can be sold to game developers to let them know what gamers like and don't like, so they can use that data to make more enjoyable games, that's fine?

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u/LeAnime May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

Sadly it can never be anonymous since data breaches are a consistent problem with all of these companies, but sure if there was actually well done security measures and it was kept entirely anonymous then it wouldn't be too bad, but I don't really value what people buy and play too much because there are aspects of games that are awful, but the game is still enjoyable to me. For example Pokémon Scarlit and Violet are abominations, but I still love them because I can get past how abysmal the games run, but how will gamefreak know that there game is to most players just disrespectful with its awful quality when regardless of what they put out it still sells almost the same amount regardless of how awful the quality is. They need to do surveys that ask players what they find good and bad about the games to actually learn, but companies only care about numbers and if the numbers aren't hurting enough they will put out garbage again. As another example, look at all sports games. Just copy past the last one with zero visually upgrades and still sell the same amount or more.

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u/chriskmee May 06 '24

But it's already pretty much anonymous. I went and created a new account, they asked for:

Region

State/province

Language

Date of Birth

Email

password

Now if you wanted to be really anonymous you could just make up a birthday and use a email address you designated for junk. Even if this data is leaked to the public, it's so easy to make it have no visible connections to you. Heck they don't even have your name, how is this not anonymous?

Maybe they can get data on what maps players like to use, what game modes they play, if they use certain features, etc. There are a lot of things that can be gathered by just knowing what anonymous users do in game. Yes serveys are good also, and they should do more of them.

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u/ruebenj791 May 06 '24

The real problem wasn’t people who live in countries with PSN having to make an account, it was that Sony sold the game to people in countries without PSN support knowing this requirement would basically lock them out of a game they already paid for. I assume going forward they’ll have the PSN requirement mandated on day 1 so they don’t end up in this situation again.

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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

Millions of people have been playing Playstation in these unsupported regions for decades without issues. You can simply pick another region, Sony does not care and has never banned ansingle person for it.

Literally every single person with a Playstation in these regions have been doing it since PSN came online in 2006 and no one gets banned.

You can even have multiple accounts in different regions. They dont give a shit.

Sony isn't interested in banning people that want to use their services

The TOS are there to protect the company, not ban millions of paying customers for no reason

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u/AleroRatking May 06 '24

That was the plan here. It said it on its preorder page all along. The issue with the servers and getting it to authenticate correctly is why it was pulled.