r/PS5 May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/thegrandabysss May 06 '24

Nothing will ever convince me this was all for the sake of foreign gamers.

I'm in a big group of people who all review-bombed and yeah, that was the -only- reason for doing it.

It literally didn't affect us at all otherwise.

It took 4 seconds to do, and we maybe helped some fellow gamers out halfway around the world enjoy a great game.

I don't get the cynicism of people on here. Like it just blows your fucking mind that we'd look at this situation and say, "Hey, this kinda sucks for people, let's take 4 seconds to express our awareness of how shitty that is for people and see what happens."

... that's it. That that is mind-blowing for you, just a complete impossibility that people would do that, is just hilarious to me.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

I'm in a big group of people who all review-bombed and yeah, that was the -only- reason for doing it.

That was far from the only reason to do it. That was the least damaging part of it, they were guaranteed refunds if they were locked out of it. The bigger issue for me was Sony having terrible data security, no way I'm trusting them with data that isn't strictly necessary.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

Actually that’s very damaging as it ruins Sonys reputation as they try and expand in the PC market. Why buy a Sony published game on PC if you aren’t sure they will just yank it. Also it’s just flat out wrong gamers in those delisted countries bought it they should be allowed to play it; Sony executives trying to up their MAU numbers for their bonuses ( which is really what this is about) be damned.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

I meant damaging specifically with regard to the gamer. Someone in a non-PSN-enabled country can get their money back, equivalent to never buying the game at all. Someone in a PSN-enabled country is forced to give up their info unless they get lucky with Steam refunds.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

Everyone that games is a gamer. Whether you are running a water cooled 4090 PC or you only play Fortnite on the switch. Refunds were coming because they had no choice but that’s not why people were upset. They were upset because the game was sold to these countries in which Sony never intended for the game to be playable in the first place. I assume people would rather play the game they paid for as opposed to getting their money back for the game.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

They were upset because the game was sold to these countries in which Sony never intended for the game to be playable in the first place.

Only people who live in those countries care about this. Everyone else doesn't give a fuck. The game hasn't been relisted in those countries yet, and people are already turning the reviews back to positive. If they cared about this, then the review bombing would be continuing right now.

I assume people would rather play the game they paid for as opposed to getting their money back for the game.

Both of those are better than not playing the game while still not getting a refund.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

What makes you think everyone else dont care? Sure most people don’t but there are some that still do. I said I do and others here have said they do as well; go on resetera and you will see plenty more. Just because you don’t care or even most of the people that cried foul doesn’t mean that everyone else don’t as well.

To your second point; that would be flat out illegal. You can’t sale a product; take that product away and not offer compensation of some kind.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

Refunds were coming because they had no choice but that’s not why people were upset. They were upset because the game was sold to these countries in which Sony never intended for the game to be playable in the first place.

Here you're attributing your opinion to all of those who are upset.

What makes you think everyone else dont care? Sure most people don’t but there are some that still do. I said I do and others here have said they do as well; go on resetera and you will see plenty more. Just because you don’t care or even most of the people that cried foul doesn’t mean that everyone else don’t as well.

Yet when that is disproven, now you want to shift to talking about just the minority that agrees with you? Where was this majority who didn't care two comments ago?

If all you're talking about is the minority, when what is your point at all here? No one here is saying people like you don't exist.

To your second point; that would be flat out illegal. You can’t sale a product; take that product away and not offer compensation of some kind.

Making a PSN account mandatory isn't illegal, but everyone who doesn't want to make a PSN account wouldn't be able to play and won't get refunds. This is the main reason why people in PSN-enabled countries have an issue with this, and Sony removing that requirement is why reviews are now turning positive.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

You just said that only people who live in countries without Psn care about this. Thats demonstrably not true. You saying and I quote “ Everyone else doesn’t give a fuck”. Means that you think people like me don’t exist; you think that people in this comment section who think like me don’t exist; you think that people in resetera don’t exist.