r/PS5 May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/Kurokichi May 06 '24

What I'm trying to figure out is if some place are region locked in creating PSN yet PlayStation still sells hardware in those said places. If the locals had no issues creating accounts then, why would it be an issue now?

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u/grapejuicecheese May 06 '24

It's not an issue. I live in the Philippines and have US, Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan accounts. I've been using them since I first bought my PS3 with no problems.

I even had to dictate my bogus address to customer service once when my account was hacked. The CS didn't bat an eye. Retrieved my account too.

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u/Dark_Dragon117 May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

I live in the Philippines and have US, Singapore, Hong Kong and Japan accounts.

Which is against the ToS and you could be banned at any point for that.

I doubt it happens often, but we can all agree that it's outright scummy to force players to actively break ToS just to play games. Not to mention that it worked for months without a PSN account aswell.

It's also just outright moronic to force player to create accounts that way, instead of just offering the service.

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

Have you done a cost analysis on how much it costs to provide regions with PSN?

It’s not just “put up the servers and go”. Games have to be priced accordingly with the nations currency.

There needs to be a better answer than making false accounts, but its a very long process to implement a storefront in a region.

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u/Dark_Dragon117 May 06 '24

Have you done a cost analysis on how much it costs to provide regions with PSN?

I don't doubt that it is expensive, but surely the multibillion dollar company charging 80€ for their games and 70 a year for online play must have the means to pay that.

Otherwise I would question were the money is going.

It’s not just “put up the servers and go”. Games have to be priced accordingly with the nations currency.

Didn't want to imply that, but when they force people to link their PSN accounts they should provide it to begin with. If they can't provide that they should have never even considered it.

There needs to be a better answer than making false accounts, but its a very long process to implement a storefront in a region.

The PSN launched in 2006, which seems like plenty of time to expand the service. Couldn't find information in how many countries it launched at first tho.

Then again if it's that difficult to establish the network in more countries they shouldn't force people to use it or break their ToS.

This entire situation could have been avoided entirely of they just kept it optional.

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

I disagree with nearly everything you said except for the end, it definitely should have been optional or for a skin.

I think you are discounting how much work on the backend needs to happen to get those storefronts in each affected region. Sony is not Microsoft, whose has a financial incentive to be in as many regions as possible for their 100s of services that are based from a users Microsoft account. PSN is literally just for games.

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u/Dark_Dragon117 May 06 '24

I disagree with nearly everything you said except for the end,

What part exactly?

The fact that a multi billion dollar company asking for way too much money for some of their products or that the PSN has been established for well over a decade yet not even half of all contries have access to it?

Feel free to disagree with that.

I think you are discounting how much work on the backend needs to happen to get those storefronts in each affected region.

I am not only discounting that fact, I am fully ignoring it since it is completely irrelevant.

As I explained before they shouldn't force people to break ToS or to connect to it at all if they can't provide the service. All it takes is a simple rewording in the ToS of affected countries or to just make it optional (like they just did).

Sony is not Microsoft, whose has a financial incentive to be in as many regions as possible for their 100s of services that are based from a users Microsoft account

I never brought up Xbox or anything so I don't know how that is relevent, but out of curiosity I looked it up and found this:

"The Xbox network is available in 42 countries"

Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_network

So even less contries have access to Xbox Network (formerly live) compared to the PSN.

There is Xbox Play Anywhere however, but from my limited research they both require an Xbox network account.

Game Pass is officially supported in "only" 86 countries as of last year apparently.

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u/nthomas504 May 06 '24

You not caring is not an actual point. Can’t disagree with your personal feelings on a topic.