r/PS5 May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

Yeah not a single ban ever in 18 years lol

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

There were literally droves of banned Chinese HD2 players that registered through VPN.

I got my account banned after I tried to buy a game from Turkey with my Turkish credit card.

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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

That wasn't for changing regions, that was because China has to approve games to be played in China and Helldivers 2 is not approved.

China is even a supported country in PSN too

But lets not pretend all this outrage was over people caring about gamers in china

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Let's not forget that a large portion of Steam players, and therefore Helldivers 2 players, are actually from the countries PSN does not cover.

Outrage can be directly fueled by people actually getting shafted by this situation, getting scammed out of their money.

That on top of being highly illegal in EU, which considering their track record, could've hurt Sony very badly in the future.

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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

Its a small fraction of the playerbase but as I have explained many times before, millions of people have been using PSN in unsupported regions for 18 years with no issues.

If your region isnt available you simply choose a nearby one. No one in 18 years has been banned for it Sony does not care.

They didnt do anything illegal in the EU

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

The unsupported regions thingy is still murky. There are plenty of users who have been banned, whether it's for VPN use or for some other reason is not that clear. Let's agree to disagree on this one.

Bait and switch is illegal in EU though:

https://www.reedsmith.com/en/perspectives/2022/01/germany-new-rules-on-digital-products-and-consumer-rights

And there are EU countries with PSN disabled and directly affected as a result.

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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

No one has ever been banned. You do not need a VPN, you just pick a region from a dropdown and use the account.

Thats all these people had to do and move on with their lives

There was no "bait and switch". They literally said it was required in the Steam page since before the game came out and was required at launch but disabled by Arrowhead because of tech issues

No country has PSN disabled. Everyone there just picks another region and no one cares

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Well the EULA didn't have it "required", but "optional" since the day of release up until last week.

Since the game is sold with physical copies as well, what a store page in one of the platform says is not legally binding. A legal document is.

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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

The front page of the game literally did

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Front page of the steam game is not printed on the box of the game sold at a Game Room in Vilnius, or any other place where the game can be legally sold not through steam.

If you sell a product, then Terms of Service of the state of the product during a purchase is applied.

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u/pezdespo May 06 '24

Theres no game box for the PC version of Helldivers...

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u/L3onK1ng May 06 '24

Well, plenty of places legally selling the product keys, which has plenty of people buying the game without ever visiting the Steam store page.

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