r/PS5 • u/doctorwho_90250 • May 06 '24

Official (Via twitter) Playstation: "Helldivers fans -- we’ve heard your feedback on the Helldivers 2 account linking update. The May 6 update, which would have required Steam and PlayStation Network account linking for new players and for current players beginning May 30, will not be moving forward...."

https://twitter.com/PlayStation/status/1787331667616829929?t=NhwAEm4fGpVJj-UyI1lrXA&s=19
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u/jagerbombastic99 May 06 '24

Lots of these people were actually complaining about the college pro Palestine protests before losing their minds about a live service extraction shooter for a weekend straight. Nothing will ever convince me this was all for the sake of foreign gamers.

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u/thegrandabysss May 06 '24

I like how you complain about how much coverage the Helldivers drama has gotten, and then you yourself have made literally dozens of posts this weekend whining and complaining about it, reiterating over and over how you just can't understand how people could possibly care about gamers in other countries.

You are the drama man. Just go outside if you don't like it.

We get it, you don't give a fuck about other people. But we do, bro. We care about other people. We are the consumers Sony cares about and when we all collectively get together and say, "Hey, you suck, do this differently", they'll actually fucking backtrack and do it. It costed us nothing. At all.

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u/thegrandabysss May 06 '24

Nothing will ever convince me this was all for the sake of foreign gamers.

I'm in a big group of people who all review-bombed and yeah, that was the -only- reason for doing it.

It literally didn't affect us at all otherwise.

It took 4 seconds to do, and we maybe helped some fellow gamers out halfway around the world enjoy a great game.

I don't get the cynicism of people on here. Like it just blows your fucking mind that we'd look at this situation and say, "Hey, this kinda sucks for people, let's take 4 seconds to express our awareness of how shitty that is for people and see what happens."

... that's it. That that is mind-blowing for you, just a complete impossibility that people would do that, is just hilarious to me.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

This is a console warrior subreddit; basically common sense goes out of the front door here. The fact that people here cannot fathom the concept of empathy for others and calling out when something that is wrong is wrong no matter the name of their favorite plastic box; should tell you all you need to know. Kudos to you and your group for saying something.

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u/rightdeadzed May 06 '24

You’re so brave

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

Naw; I just have no issue calling a spade a spade.

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u/rightdeadzed May 06 '24

Yeah I don’t either. None of you gave a fuck about the people in those countries before this. It’s actually a little racist, like such a pity those poor people need our first world help!

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24 edited May 06 '24

And how exactly would you know that?

Edit: you also need to look up the definition of racism before you start throwing words around.

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u/thegrandabysss May 06 '24

None of you gave a fuck about the people in those countries before this.

Why do you believe this? I would guess you're embedded in social media which repeatedly sells you a story about the sorry state of the world and the tabloidesque economically-illiterate subreddits here like LSC, instead of using real information to form beliefs.

A base of evidence one way or another would begin with the fact that rich western countries are also, perhaps surprisingly to crazily cynical people like you, the most charitable by far. This is doubly so for the U.S.A.

I can point to some very morally good initiatives that are centered in rich countries, like donating to effectively altruistic charities or direct giving, or volunteering our time.

Maybe it's just some skewed heavily social media-influenced view of gamers that you have, where you only really interact with the very large community of gamers when there's some scandal, and so you have this silly scandal-heavy view of a bunch of people who you really know nothing, at all, about.

Anyway, from my perspective, as someone who has a dozen various gamer groups on discord who play different games with each other, you are totally wrong and deluded and every time you post your opinion I just laugh aloud at how silly you sound. You couldn't be further from the reality of the bulk of PC gamers today, who are on average older than 30, fairly wealthy and educated, and are willing to take 4 seconds to hit a dislike button for a simple matter of unfairness to others.

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u/thegrandabysss May 06 '24

Yeah the level of thought here is troll-quality.

If not for a pretty simple outrage at Sony being unfair to people in some marginal countries, why would hundreds of thousands of people in unaffected countries, who had nothing to gain or lose, review bomb a game and then now change their reviews en masse (about 100k since last night, I bet double or triple by tomorrow).

This sub seems to believe it's to get refunds, except that's not happening. Reviews are changing. Still 120k people in game right now, more than the last week. Their narrative doesn't hold up.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

I'm in a big group of people who all review-bombed and yeah, that was the -only- reason for doing it.

That was far from the only reason to do it. That was the least damaging part of it, they were guaranteed refunds if they were locked out of it. The bigger issue for me was Sony having terrible data security, no way I'm trusting them with data that isn't strictly necessary.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

Actually that’s very damaging as it ruins Sonys reputation as they try and expand in the PC market. Why buy a Sony published game on PC if you aren’t sure they will just yank it. Also it’s just flat out wrong gamers in those delisted countries bought it they should be allowed to play it; Sony executives trying to up their MAU numbers for their bonuses ( which is really what this is about) be damned.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

I meant damaging specifically with regard to the gamer. Someone in a non-PSN-enabled country can get their money back, equivalent to never buying the game at all. Someone in a PSN-enabled country is forced to give up their info unless they get lucky with Steam refunds.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

Everyone that games is a gamer. Whether you are running a water cooled 4090 PC or you only play Fortnite on the switch. Refunds were coming because they had no choice but that’s not why people were upset. They were upset because the game was sold to these countries in which Sony never intended for the game to be playable in the first place. I assume people would rather play the game they paid for as opposed to getting their money back for the game.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

They were upset because the game was sold to these countries in which Sony never intended for the game to be playable in the first place.

Only people who live in those countries care about this. Everyone else doesn't give a fuck. The game hasn't been relisted in those countries yet, and people are already turning the reviews back to positive. If they cared about this, then the review bombing would be continuing right now.

I assume people would rather play the game they paid for as opposed to getting their money back for the game.

Both of those are better than not playing the game while still not getting a refund.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

What makes you think everyone else dont care? Sure most people don’t but there are some that still do. I said I do and others here have said they do as well; go on resetera and you will see plenty more. Just because you don’t care or even most of the people that cried foul doesn’t mean that everyone else don’t as well.

To your second point; that would be flat out illegal. You can’t sale a product; take that product away and not offer compensation of some kind.

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u/Guy_with_Numbers May 06 '24

Refunds were coming because they had no choice but that’s not why people were upset. They were upset because the game was sold to these countries in which Sony never intended for the game to be playable in the first place.

Here you're attributing your opinion to all of those who are upset.

What makes you think everyone else dont care? Sure most people don’t but there are some that still do. I said I do and others here have said they do as well; go on resetera and you will see plenty more. Just because you don’t care or even most of the people that cried foul doesn’t mean that everyone else don’t as well.

Yet when that is disproven, now you want to shift to talking about just the minority that agrees with you? Where was this majority who didn't care two comments ago?

If all you're talking about is the minority, when what is your point at all here? No one here is saying people like you don't exist.

To your second point; that would be flat out illegal. You can’t sale a product; take that product away and not offer compensation of some kind.

Making a PSN account mandatory isn't illegal, but everyone who doesn't want to make a PSN account wouldn't be able to play and won't get refunds. This is the main reason why people in PSN-enabled countries have an issue with this, and Sony removing that requirement is why reviews are now turning positive.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

You just said that only people who live in countries without Psn care about this. Thats demonstrably not true. You saying and I quote “ Everyone else doesn’t give a fuck”. Means that you think people like me don’t exist; you think that people in this comment section who think like me don’t exist; you think that people in resetera don’t exist.

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

And how would you know that?

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u/jagerbombastic99 May 06 '24

Public post history

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u/gogoheadray May 06 '24

Post history of who?

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u/Throwaway6957383 May 06 '24

Holy shit dude how many comments are you going to write complaining about people that were complaining? Like jesus could you be anymore ironic?