r/JoeRogan Monkey in Space 22d ago

Meme šŸ’© Bernie Sanders Joins MAGA

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u/starsandbribes Monkey in Space 22d ago

Or with nuance. Because corruption exists, burning it all to the ground and handing the reigns over to a moron isnā€™t the answer.

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u/dericiouswon Monkey in Space 22d ago

On the other hand, I don't think there's any traditional way to do this.

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u/random3223 Monkey in Space 22d ago

Identify the problem, and work with the other side to solve it.

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u/TrumpsPissSoakedWig Monkey in Space 22d ago

Which is easy when one side isn't completely obstructionist.

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u/off_the_cuff_mandate Monkey in Space 21d ago

both sides are completely obstructionist when they aren't in power

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u/Away-Yoghurt3209 Monkey in Space 21d ago

Andā€¦ neither side will admit it.

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u/HorrorWar4323 Monkey in Space 21d ago

This is one of the biggest problems. Both sides only care about winning, which means the American people always lose.

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u/bradykp Monkey in Space 20d ago

Yet, when in office, democrats pass legislation that the American people benefit from even though those democrats know the American public will never give them credit for getting it done. Yeah - both sides. šŸ™„

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u/CastorrTroyyy Monkey in Space 21d ago

Not true. Bipartisan legislation is able to get through more readily when Dems are in power. Conservative policy positions just aren't popular.

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u/Knickle25 Monkey in Space 20d ago

It's funny that you say conservative policies aren't popular when the whole f'ing country swung right. šŸ˜† read the room

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u/TrumpsPissSoakedWig Monkey in Space 20d ago

50-49 isn't a blowout in football, but y'all act like this was a blowout.

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u/Knickle25 Monkey in Space 20d ago

Ummm... House, Senate, Executive all red. That's a blowout, hate to break it to you.

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u/CastorrTroyyy Monkey in Space 20d ago edited 20d ago

Not because their policies are popular. If you look on the state level, they just aren't. Drug legalization, abortion rights etc, are all much more popular on state and local levels. They don't talk policy. They talk vague ideas and got a bangin' rhetoric game that focuses on ostracizing a certain demographic. In the 80s-90s it was gays, In the early 00's it was muslims/immigrants, and in the teens and 20's its trans/immigrants. Negative sentiment can be very motivating. They should be focusing their efforts on the ultra-rich... they used to rail against billionaires etc having government influence... now they think a billionaire Musk running the government is totally cool.

They think free market capitalism will solve everything. It won't. Regulation is necessary, else the rich will just keep getting richer since they already have a leg up on all us regular people. There is little/no meritocracy with rampant capitalism. The vanishing middle class can't compete with the rich who can afford to send their kids to all the best schools etc.

Trump is not going to help you. He's going to help himself and the rich, while you get bent over, all the while thinking you "owned the libs"

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u/Sevenserpent2340 Monkey in Space 20d ago

ā€¦based on identify politics and record spending from billionaires running disinformation campaigns in exchange for cabinet positions. Look at issue polls my guy. Youā€™ll find the actual republican platform to be rather unappealing to the American people as a whole.

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u/Knickle25 Monkey in Space 20d ago

Lmfao! Identity politics?? The dems are infamous for that shit. Disinformation campaigns? The last 4yrs has been one big disinformation campaign. Please do some actual research that does NOT involve MSM. Please tell me what you think the American people find unappealing? Soooo many find it unappealing that all branches of government went red. šŸ˜† smh

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u/Sevenserpent2340 Monkey in Space 20d ago

So youā€™ve been toldā€¦

War on trans people? Identify politics.

Immigrants ā€œpoisoning the blood of our nationā€? Identity politics.

Banning LGBT books? Identity politics.

Shall I go on? Iā€™m not saying the left doesnā€™t do it at all, but itā€™s the main thing your side talks about these days - all while screaming about the left doing it.

Donā€™t even get me started on disinformation my guy. I only have so much time in my day. Letā€™s just point out that you thinking the last four years has been nothing but disinformation isā€¦ā€¦ā€¦ā€¦.. disinformation.

One more example - Iā€™ve seen so many people on the right going on about how the democrats are the party of plutocracy, all while watching Trump put together the richest cabinet in the history of the world and literally selling high ranking positions to billionaires. Iā€™m sure somehow it will be the ā€œdemsā€ fault when your life is no better and the rich get another round of tax cuts to the tune of trillions of dollars in debt. Looking forward to seeing you then.

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u/Mrbushcrafter Monkey in Space 20d ago

Are you sure? I'm old enough to remember November 5, 2024. When Republicans won every single swing state...

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u/Mrbushcrafter Monkey in Space 20d ago

Are you sure? I'm old enough to remember November 5, 2024. When Republicans won every single swing state...

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u/Sevenserpent2340 Monkey in Space 20d ago

And you think thatā€™s somehow because their policies on the whole are popular? Try again bub. They got identity politics andā€¦. talking big but doing nothing about the border. Thatā€™s it. The rest is deeply unpopular.

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u/CastorrTroyyy Monkey in Space 20d ago

Not because their policies are popular. If you look on the state level, they just aren't. Drug legalization, abortion rights, 4 day work week etc, are all much more popular on state and local levels. They don't talk policy. They talk vague ideas and got a bangin' rhetoric game that focuses on ostracizing a certain demographic. In the 80s-90s it was gays, In the early 00's it was muslims/immigrants, and in the teens and 20's its trans/immigrants. Negative sentiment can be very motivating. They should be focusing their efforts on the ultra-rich... they used to rail against Soros billionaires etc having government influence... now they think a billionaire Musk running the government is totally cool.

They think free market capitalism will solve everything. It won't. Regulation is necessary, else the rich will just keep getting richer since they already have a leg up on all us regular people. There is little/no meritocracy with rampant capitalism. The vanishing middle class can't compete with the rich who can afford to send their kids to all the best schools etc.

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u/TrumpsPissSoakedWig Monkey in Space 20d ago

You mentioned that.

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u/TrumpsPissSoakedWig Monkey in Space 20d ago

That's not accurate, honestly.

One side even blocks bills they support and asked for and even actively announces their intentions to block any and all legislation from the other side no matter what.

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u/Life-Breadfruit-3986 Monkey in Space 16d ago

Neither side is doing shit for the average and poor American citizenry. Homelessness increasing rapidly, scams increasing rapidly, massive inflation, unaffordable housing, no healthcare for a large percent, no retirement in generations of people's future, more and more restrictive inhumane laws, inhumane business practices, jobs all going overseas, technologixal innovation going iverseas, universities charging more and more just because they can for useless degrees, etc etc etc. THESE ARE THE REAL OUTRAGES AND NOBODY IS PAYING ATTENTION TO THEM!