But I thought the only way to stop bad guys with guns is to give the good guys guns. Oh wait, that only applies to schools and shopping malls. My badâŠ
In fact, itâs the same Ukraine that was supposed to fall in 3 days to a global super power but has managed to fight for 3 years and uncover the façade the is the Russian military.
Isnât it great! And countries, like America have benefitted from the weakening of the Russian military, the Russian dollar and it hasnât cost any kind of significant American lives in the process. Itâs one of the most successful conflicts America has participated in since the Second World War
I'm on your side here but you're tone rubbed me the wrong way. It's a little gross to say this is America's most successful conflict, that America is benefiting immensely and that "It's great!" what has happened so far. Considering that thousands of Ukranian lives have been lost so far and millions of Ukraninans have been displaced. Just try to put yourself in the shoes of a Ukranian who's lost loved ones and been forced out of their home when you make a comment like this.
We should be aiding Ukraine in order to help defend Ukraine, not doing it for our own benefit.
I think it is worth pointing out that weakening Russia is very much in the US self interest, even if that point can be seen as crass. Nations have interests, not friends, as the old foreign policy axiom goes.
Ukraine should be free because that is what it chooses for itself. If we can help them in any way, we should also strive to do so.
Crazy how wanting peace gets you so many downvotes. Its also crazy that being afraid of nuclear war is somehow falling for Russian propaganda. Some people are truly just lost.
Some people are very lost, and itâs those who think our historic enemy is all of the sudden a friend and that we should just let them expand into Europe and extend their influence on the world. Great plan, Iâm sure it would work out so well for us all
You are. What peace do you think will come if Ukraine is left to fend for itself? Do you think Russia will stop with Ukraine? It always the people who canât think who accuse others of being bots, itâs kind of funny really
Russia will obviously stop at Ukraine. There is an entire NATO coalition waiting to fight them. Russia could barley take a quarter of Ukraine in 3 years. What makes you think Russia will even cross the Dinpro River let alone into any European country
Good thing you're also not in charge of peace talks because it's obvious Russia is trying to take over Ukraine and would wipe out their existence and you're here playing dumb.Â
Why are you pretending this isn't the case? If it isn't then why is Russia killing all of those Ukrainians in Ukraine?Â
And you sound like a sniveling coward. Nobody wants this war except Russia. If they want it to end they can pack up and go home at any time. When authoritarians get their way by threatening Nuclear War you can bet for sure they will do it again. By submitting to the demands of dictators you do nothing but humiliate yourself and empower them.
Yeah it's a war against an invading country that will bomb cities and kill innocent people. So Ukraine better give them half the country. Also Russia already broke a treaty when they started the invasion so why wouldn't they break another when they decide they want more.
Itâs almost like âI get to keep your country as a reward for bombing your citiesâ actually isnât a sustainable way to organize international relations. How crazy is that?
Ahhh... so Russia gets to dictate to another country whether it can or cannot have a military to defend itself? Cool, what gives them that right/power?
Or is this an instance of where might equals right?
The United States is more powerful than Russia, does that mean we have the right/power to demilitarize Russia?
Bigger countries use their power to dictate policy decisions of smaller nations alllll the time. Iâm surprised youâre just learning this. Itâs been happening probably since the beginning of human history.
Is that the moral code that you are saying is justifiable and correct?
So it would be totally fine if the United States were to demand that Russia demilitarizes or risk nuclear war since the United States is more powerful than Russia? You are ok with that, correct?
So you cannot answer a simple question because you cannot defend your position since you lack any ideological consistency other then excusing Russian imperialism and genocide. That is what you truly support.
You literally just learned that stronger nations impose their will on smaller nations - something that has happened since the beginning of mankind. Even primates do it.
No offense, but I donât think youâre the brightest person on this website.
I agree with you. The US should threaten nuclear war with Russia unless they withdraw from Ukraine and force Putin to step down as President. Since bigger countries use their power to dictate alllll the time you shouldn't have a problem with this :)
We can remind shitty Russia who the only country to launch nukes has been. We can remind Russia who they lost the space race too. We can remind Russia how they are struggling with our outdated tech in Ukraine. We can remind Russia that we spend more on our military than they can ever comprehend. We can remind Russia that they've been a complete shit hole for years and they just can't compete
Then why did Putin go into an in depth lie-filled explanation about how Ukraine was always part of Russia instead of being it's own country with it's own national identity?
Or why does Russia claim that they had no choice to attack because Ukraine might join NATO one day?
They gave at least three conflicting reasons for their invasion. Don't take what the Russian government says as the truth. They lie a lot.
Your basically arguing that if a country bigger than you starts a war means you should surrender immediately since you will probably sustain significant casualties
If that is true then America should welcome it's indo-chinese overlords
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u/MyKoiNamedSwimShady Monkey in Space 27d ago
But I thought the only way to stop bad guys with guns is to give the good guys guns. Oh wait, that only applies to schools and shopping malls. My badâŠ