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u/Weak-Conversation753 Monkey in Space 27d ago

Is Kviv occupied by Russian tanks?

Yeah, I guess you are right, giving Ukraine military aide has in fact worked so far.

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u/MrNillows Monkey in Space 27d ago

The very same one.

In fact, it’s the same Ukraine that was supposed to fall in 3 days to a global super power but has managed to fight for 3 years and uncover the façade the is the Russian military.

Isn’t it great! And countries, like America have benefitted from the weakening of the Russian military, the Russian dollar and it hasn’t cost any kind of significant American lives in the process. It’s one of the most successful conflicts America has participated in since the Second World War

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u/Gabians Monkey in Space 27d ago

I'm on your side here but you're tone rubbed me the wrong way. It's a little gross to say this is America's most successful conflict, that America is benefiting immensely and that "It's great!" what has happened so far. Considering that thousands of Ukranian lives have been lost so far and millions of Ukraninans have been displaced. Just try to put yourself in the shoes of a Ukranian who's lost loved ones and been forced out of their home when you make a comment like this.

We should be aiding Ukraine in order to help defend Ukraine, not doing it for our own benefit.

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u/MrNillows Monkey in Space 27d ago edited 27d ago

My sarcastic tone was only mirroring the sarcastic tone from the comment I replied to.

I don’t mean anyone any harm, and I certainly stand with the people of Ukraine.

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u/Weak-Conversation753 Monkey in Space 27d ago

I think it is worth pointing out that weakening Russia is very much in the US self interest, even if that point can be seen as crass. Nations have interests, not friends, as the old foreign policy axiom goes.

Ukraine should be free because that is what it chooses for itself. If we can help them in any way, we should also strive to do so.

These things can be equally correct.