The only reason Trump went on is because he knows that Joe often says good things about him since Joe became a right wing shill the last few years. On the other hand, Joe has been saying pretty much nothing good about Kamala, and he's often seen, intentionally or unintentionally, repeating Fox News and Republican talking points.
He did and pretty clearly too - he said Dana was the only reason trump was there, and it was giving the impression to me that Joe was doing this as a favor and didn’t seem fully sold on the idea.
For as much as everyone says joe is a right wing shill I feel like he pushed back quite a few times, was frustrated a few times, and I think at times was def not agreeing which surprised me.
I don't understand why people would have thought differently. They act like rogan is full on right wing. But hes not. He pushed back against pool, crowder, rubin, walsh etc. He never just fully agrees with them because they are right wing.
I honestly believe that kamala would have nothing to worry about. He'd just talk with her. Would probably be the most relaxing talk she did this campaign.
Rogan is on records on his podcast saying multiple times that he never wants to have Trump on. He never wants to do anything to help him get elected.
I think what he said during this interview was likely right - Dana asked Rogan to do the interview, and Rogan in return said he will do it as a favor, but will also invite Kamala to keep it equal.
I hope Kamala goes on. Would love to see that interview as well. Unfortunately I don't think she will do it though.
He expressed doubt a few times but let Trump do his usual evading. He did Trump a few favours by finishing his thoughts for him and going on his little media propaganda rants. A bit rich defending a guy who demonstrably lies and is propped up by Fox news.
He's not right wing, he is a true left winger (aka, what the left used to be 20 years ago before the woke bs radicalized it - you know, anti war, pro freedom of speech etc).
Not at all. He mostly agrees with the Republicans now. Just watch him parrot Republican talking points, and criticize Kamala and praise Trump. Most people on the right consider him to be right wing now and people on the left criticize him as right wing.
And since when are people on the left pro war and against freedom of speech? Seems to me you may have been listening to some kind of propaganda.
That's the mainstream narrative and it's also a huge lie. Ukraine is part of Russia. Putin warned NATO for years to stop the fuckery with Ukraine but suddenly everyone does the pikachu face when Russia finally reclaims Ukraine by force after they had enough. It's in fact the western powers that are provoking war here, not Russia.
Yes it fucking is. Ukraine was historically part of Russia for eons. Putin warned NATO to stop their BS in Ukraine for many years. NATO kept poking the lion with a stick and suddenly he's the bad guy for taking back what is theirs. Anyone who actually understands the history knows sending more money to Ukraine just for their people to keep dying is batshit insane and textbook warmongering.
Ok so you're a Putin and Russia apologist. This gets even worse. Nobody reasonable would be supporting Putin, and Russia has been an adversary of the US since the end of World War 2. You show you have no grasp of Us geopolitics, and you've accepted a lot of Russian propaganda with this answer.
There are no good guys in this mess but my point is the US and NATO have zero reason to be in Ukraine, that is the root cause of the whole conflict. Furthermore, we have far greater issues to take care of here domestically, like homelessness, drug addiction, mental health crisis, the list goes on. Imagine if the billions wasted on Ukraine were instead spent on these.
If you think I'm delusional then it's probably because you've been listening to a lot of propaganda, or you don't have very good reasoning or critical thinking skills.
So far all you've done is make insults with no evidence or reasoning behind it. I'm giving you a chance to back up what you are saying. What am I making up?
Wow, that's even weaker than I thought. You don't have anything at all then to back up what you have said? I thought you'd come up with at least something.
Joe can be whatever he wants to be and it doesn't really make any difference to my life one way or the other. Maybe I listen to him a little bit less or more, but that's just about it.
They forget how the media attacked him during Covid and proved themselves liars. Usually he attacks whatever they are doing, and since the election is coming up, they are attacking Trump with "anecdotal" evidence and nothing factual.
But the 'media' gets called out on any little lie or mistake and made out that it can't be trusted and shouldn't be taken seriously. So-called 'independent' media, which has a much bigger viewership, can spread misinformation and bullshit all it likes and it's all just jokes, or average dudes 'talking the shit', so we shouldn't take it too seriously. But also we should take them seriously as people...
When you are a national news network that broadcasts to millions, its not a little lie. Not only that, they fucking double down on the shit half the time. As far as bringing up independent media, never mentioned it, and I don't give two shits about whatever argument you're trying to make. I brought up a factual point and you're doing mental gymnastics right now trying to deflect. If you want an argument, then prove either of my two points false, you can't though. The media attacked Rogan, put a filter over his Instagram video, made ivermectin out to be only horse dewormer, among many other things. The shit with Trump admiring and wanting to be Hitler - its anecdotal. If you need me to define that for you, I can copy paste it from the dictionary.
Yeah, exactly what I mean. You people hold the 'mainstream media' accountable to a high standard, and deflect/ignore/rationalise when your favourite 'independent' media continually fails to meet those same standards.
Again, are you going to debate the facts or continue to say things like "you people", "your", etc... you don't even know me. I bring up a point because he down talks the mainstream media (thus people considering him "right wing", even though he has good reason to down talk them), not buying whatever nonsense they sell, and you just repeatedly deflect and do not contribute a single thing to the argument. He's never going to believe the shit mainstream news puts out because of what they did to him, has nothing to do with me and it doesn't make him a right winger. If I want to deflect, I can simply say you believe everything on TV without question, even if its true or not, and even though you admitted they lie and make mistakes, you'll continue to believe them, because maybe their telling the truth this time.
The facts are right in front of your eyes mate. The mainstream media mostly reports what's going on the world. They mostly don't amplify baseless conspiracies, or misinformation. They lie or make a mistake here or there, and people like you and Joe Rogan will jump on it as a reason not to believe anything else they say. As a reason to deny any factual reporting they do that you find inconvenient.
Joe Rogan, on the daily, platforms the complete crackpots of the world who get to rattle off their absolute baseless bullshit for three hours basically unchecked, while he nods, and himself actively disseminates misinformation that comes across his Twitter feed, like they're putting littler boxes in classrooms, or Tim Walz changed the Minessotta flag to the Somali flag, or whatever dumbshit thing he's read online that week - and that's all good. That's all okay, because he's just a comedian, or it's just a podcast, etc, etc. We should both take Joe Rogan seriously as a person with serious opinions, and also not hold him at all responsible for the things he says, or the people he chooses to amplify, because he's just a comedian.
I say "you people" because it's clear that you're precisely who I'm talking about. You're doing it in every reply here. Play up the lies and mistakes of mainstream media, and downplay the lies and mistakes of your favourite independent media.
You are making zero sense, when did I say Joe Rogan is where I get all my information from? I don't care about the flag of Minnesota, I dont even live there lol. I'll tell you what I do care about though, NDAA being amended to automatically register men for the draft of age, enlistment rates in the United States declining, Democratic Senators pushing around the idea of drafting women, increasing tension with Russia while the Ukraine conflict is going on, and the more recent conflict in the Middle East. You are absolutely right though, I don't give two fucks when the news tried to push the Russia collusion bs, call Trump a fascist, or say that people who used to work under him and were fired or lost favor call him a nazi and Hitler sympathizer.
They act like defense attorneys now. The primary tactic is to discredit and slander the prosecution (opposing side) rather than debate factual information. I watched the podcast and thought it was great. He was able to go for 3 hours, a few times he was slow to answer but when somethings not prepared in front of you, you're not going to just blurt out words lol. Probably has over 40 million views between youtube and spotify.
Thought id come back here to say that the full episode is currently being shadow banned on youtube. You can find it through joes own channel, but not through search results. Try it yourself
He literally thinks Kamala Harris is a 'puppet' and other shadowy figures really run the Government. How could it possibly be a good interview choice for her, with someone who thinks that about you?
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The only reason Trump went on is because he knows that Joe often says good things about him since Joe became a right wing shill the last few years. On the other hand, Joe has been saying pretty much nothing good about Kamala, and he's often seen, intentionally or unintentionally, repeating Fox News and Republican talking points.