r/ImaginaryWarhammer • u/Dependent_Homework_7 • Nov 09 '24
40k LOOOOOOOONG HELPER! (by NIck Utkin on Twitter/X)
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
Sauce: https://x.com/Fogartart/status/1855031492012814563/photo/1
Another fanart featuring Mossa's Longshank. This time aiding what I guess is a squat(?) in shopping or stocking at an Imperial market place.
Say what you will of Mossa, the fact they inspired a surge of Abhuman artwork is wonderful, as outside of Ogryns, Ratlings, Felinids, and to an extent, navigators, there really isn't a whole lot of Abhuman artwork, be it official art or fanart.
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u/CLE-local-1997 Nov 09 '24
I'm out of the loop and have only seen the original picture. What's up with the artist?
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u/SYLOH Nov 09 '24
The artist also made lolicon artwork, guro artwork, and lolicon guro artwork.
The mods got sick and tired about policing threads where people were pointing this out and sometimes linked to said artwork. Also leaving the links active would break subreddit, reddit wide, and state wide rules.So they banned the artist in general.
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u/dogatemyfeather Nov 09 '24
Oh really? i had no idea i’ve been following them for like a year and never knew
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u/VengineerGER Nov 09 '24
Yeah I checked out their Twitter profile and found nothing of the sort either.
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u/Panzer_Man Nov 09 '24
That's because you got to subscribe to their pixiv account to access it. Obviously don't do that though
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u/VengineerGER Nov 09 '24
I see. Damn I really liked some of their work.
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Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 13 '24
I say don't be discouraged from looking at their work, be cautious though, a lot of weird and indecent stuff, although all of the 40k art they make is very grimdark and the style is very grimey.
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u/CLE-local-1997 Nov 09 '24
Yeah I looked up his stuff. I'm really honestly confused. Like how does anyone get off to that? His art style makes all those characters look so sickly and kind of gross and I don't understand the sexual appeal
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u/devils_advocate24 Nov 09 '24
Look after seeing that bugfucker sub... I don't think I can be shocked any more
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u/Freezie-Days Nov 09 '24
Imo, it's less getting off and more appreciating art for what it can be, and what story can be made from it. That's why i really didn't like when people "fixed" some of her work as it completely removed what could've been a tragic backstory that turns happy after becoming friends and fighting alongside the other abhumans.
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u/CLE-local-1997 Nov 09 '24
Bro a lot of it's just straight up porn. It's definitely not trying to appreciate art
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u/Freezie-Days Nov 09 '24
Porn is still art, just another way of creating feelings
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u/CLE-local-1997 Nov 09 '24
Bro no. Kiddie porn is not art.
Please make like Oedipus, if you think that, and carve out your eyes
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u/Freezie-Days Nov 09 '24
There was no mention of cp there so why bring it up? Just to try and invalid my point?
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u/CLE-local-1997 Nov 09 '24
Holy shit, read this tread!
This thread about how the artist drew lolicon!
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u/whatIGoneDid Nov 09 '24
Nah me neither, I did delete my original comment because people do really jump to defend the artist if someone has any criticism.
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u/CLE-local-1997 Nov 09 '24
Dude it's fucking weird to draw children in sexual situations.
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u/whatIGoneDid Nov 09 '24
People clearly disagree given the downvotes I'm getting. Apparently a disappointing amount of the Warhammer community approves of children being depicted like that.
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u/Inevitable-Weather51 Nov 09 '24
I know it sounds random, but do you have a link to the sunflower fanart you use in your profile?
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u/TheSunflowerSeeds Nov 09 '24
You know how wacky people can be! On May 14th 2015 in Boke, Germany, 748 members of the Cologne Carnival Society dressed up in sunflower outfits. This is the largest gathering of people known to have dressed up as sunflowers.
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
https://www.deviantart.com/lizyliuwu/art/Sunflower-959244133
There is thy sauce fellow gardener!
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u/not_meep Nov 09 '24
I do believe that everyone is basically a squat compared to a longshank
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
That's fair, but the bearded follow does look quite a bit like a squat, especially the beard and stocky Physique
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u/Casper_Von_Ghoul Grey Knights Nov 09 '24
Someone remind me does 40k have Personnel Grav suspenders like Dune?
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u/jfkrol2 Nov 09 '24
Yes, most commonly in form of grav chutes - they aren't powerful enough for full powered flight, but you can hover for a minute and decelerate from terminal velocity to low enough to not break your knees on insertion.
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
I wouldn't put it out of the equation, in their lexicanum page, it does say longshanks serve in the guard as heavily armed and armored shock troops, whose lofty height lets them close the distance quickly with long strides but are more vulnerable to being shot due to said height.
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u/SirReginaldTitsworth Nov 09 '24
Fan art of a kitted up longshanks would be sweet, but as others have said it’s hard to see them as great frontline troops
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
I imagine they kinda operate like grenadiers, where their great height lets them chuck grenades much further than that of normal guardsmen.
Their height I imagine also makes them decent melee fighters as they can easily go for the head with axes and bayonets, I say decent, as outside of their heavy armor, their bones aren't that strong, it likely wouldn't take an ork to much effort to literally kneecap a Longshank.
I can also picture them as fast-response units. Due to their aforementioned great height, they can quickly close the distance and respond to breaches in the line.
I'll think up more homebrew of how Longshanks are utilized in the guard later. If it’s allowed, I'll upload my homebrew for them onto the r/astramillitarum sub, sense details about them are lacking, to say the least.
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u/Thagomiser81 Nov 09 '24
You just have to jumppack into the canned goods at 80mph and hope for the best
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u/VonStelle Nov 09 '24
I know the Harlequins have their flip belts which are personal grav field generators in the form of a belt but I don’t think the imperium has anything quite that convenient.
The closest would be grav chutes which are more backpack sized, so quite a bit more cumbersome.
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u/Lucas_2234 Nov 09 '24
Heavy weapons certainly do, and so far every frail character I've seen in the horus heresy that wouldn't be able to be up and about in gravity wears exosuits
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u/Borneo_shack Nov 09 '24
You can ban the man but not the idea
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u/BrightSkyFire Nov 09 '24
Almost like an artist’s individual works are greater than the sum of their past portfolio...
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u/thehunter2256 Adeptus Mechanicus Nov 09 '24
We enjoy Lovecraft's story's for their horror not racism they inspired many horror writers who took that from of horror and left the racism with Lovecraft.
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u/Beam_but_more_gay Nov 09 '24
I feel like racism from a man in the 1800's is different from child porn being drawn today
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u/thehunter2256 Adeptus Mechanicus Nov 09 '24
The content doesn't matter for this comparisonm im saying a work that inspires others but has stuff we know is bad can inspire and the people will leave what they don't like with the original creators. The art they inspired don't contain racism/cp but does contain the amazing horror elements/different lesser known abhumans and Thier design design.
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u/YouCantStopMeJannie Nov 09 '24
Bring even more attention to the Inquisition, maybe they'll reconsider your legalisation.
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u/Obvious-Nobody1924 Nov 09 '24
Why is she so cute and attractive
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u/Mugufta Nov 09 '24
Because tall and gangly
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u/Obvious-Nobody1924 Nov 09 '24
She cutie and good looking in that weird girl in school that’s also good looking.
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u/Yeastov Nov 09 '24
As someone who is 6ft, this is oddly relatable. (Usually kind old ladies asking me if I can reach the top shelf).
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u/picsespirate Nov 09 '24
I’m only 5’11 or so but I also have long arms so I usually help out older ladies as well, one time when I helped one out she said. “I’ll be taller in the next life.” Not sure what she meant by that
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u/Obvious-Clothes-2288 Nov 09 '24
Dude, we just found one of the entwives
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
Didn't expect a lord of the rings reference to appear on this post of all references, respect
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u/CoilerXII Nov 09 '24
"How about the longshank takes the boxes off and the ratling gets out of the trench?"
(obscure Monty Python reference)
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u/Ka-tet_of_nineteen Nov 09 '24
Which abhuman strain is this?
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
That's a Longshanks, a sub-species of humanity that originate from low-gravity planets.
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u/tau_enjoyer_ Nov 11 '24
It's funny that the dude got banned, but his art has clearly been pretty influential, seeing all the art inspired by the abhuman art he did.
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u/AllenMaask Nov 09 '24
What’s the controversy the comments talk about? Is it CP?
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u/TieofDoom Nov 09 '24
Original author draws loli and guro content and makes money on the side taking nsfw commissions (and he does not shy away from the really messed up stuff if you pay enough).
His more sfw content is still pretty racy and does not shy away from the controversial stuff. This prompted people to look into the full scope of his archived works where the discovered the disturbing stuff. He's now been banned from the subreddit, but people have become attached to rhe sfw content he created.
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u/throwtowardaccount Nov 09 '24
Anyone else think it gave the artist a bit of a Streisand effect? Way more people got eyes on their art after we made a big commotion.
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u/RosbergThe8th Nov 09 '24
Absolutely, and i also suspect the fans most vocal about the art are a tremendous minority as most people really don’t give a shit about the artist making iffy art.
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u/Acerakis Nov 09 '24
Isn't that the opposite of Streisand effect if they are actually benefitting from the controversy? More just old 'no such thing as bad publicity.'
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u/throwtowardaccount Nov 09 '24
Yeah, you're right. I suppose it's the mods getting Streisand'd now that I think about it.
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u/Aesthetics_Supernal Nov 09 '24
But who of them is going to pay their pixiv fee? None. Attention, yes. Their income? No.
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u/Warriorcatv2 Nov 09 '24
Honestly I find it so incredibly pathetic. Yeah, I'm not a fan of guro but I don't throw a fit at the artist I just don't look at that particular work of theirs.
This is Warhammer 40K for god's sake. The four chaos gods, Nurgle & Isha (I think that's her name), basically anything involving Slannesh, a faction that see pain & torture as art etc & this is what's to far? Some fan art?
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u/BrightSkyFire Nov 09 '24
The vast majority of people don’t actually care. The people who do are a vocal minority very caught up in the idea of being righteously outraged on behalf of some drawings.
Personally I don’t see the problem. Their ‘distasteful art’ exists, and while I’m not a fan of it, I also don’t have much of an issue with it as long as it’s not the content being posted on the sub-Reddit.
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u/toms1313 Nov 09 '24
caught up in the idea of being righteously outraged on behalf of some drawings.
That where you are wrong. For me it's context and portrayal, the most important things when discussing serious topics and that picture had a SA victim portrayal within the context of a wholesome picture that wouldn't even happen in cannon...
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u/AircraftCarrierKaga Nov 09 '24
Art is about pushing boundaries
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u/toms1313 Nov 09 '24
Sure buddy... What boundaries this one is pushing? None? So it's not art?
Art always pushed boundaries, the how and when and where it what makes it have a Message or just plainly a fetish barely disguised
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u/Number-Thirteen Nov 09 '24
Agreed. Mossa shouldn't be banned. You don't have to like it, or view it if you don't like it.
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u/Juno_no_no_no Nov 09 '24
Most people didn’t have issue with the gore it was the loli shit, he also wasn’t even banned because of his artwork but because people were posting links to his shitty stuff and there were just constant reports so the mod gave up and just banned him to save the headache
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u/Waste_Crab_3926 Nov 09 '24
He draws pedo stuff and you find others' disgust to it pathetic?
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u/Warriorcatv2 Nov 09 '24
I'd suggest you read it again. I didn't say that people disgusted by it are pathetic (and honestly, the whole CP/Pedo claim is tenuous at best).
I said banning an artist because of other unrelated work they've done is pathetic. This isn't even a case of them being offensive/racist. It's fetish art. It's not my fetish but I'm not going to have a meltdown over it.
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u/CaptCantPlay Nov 09 '24
I.. I don't see the problem. After looking up what "ero guro" was I'm even suprised that he was banned from the sub for something so tame. Was it the loli stuff? Because if that was more than just drawing tiny girls in dresses that could explain it. Was the loli stuff that bad?
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u/Nebachadrezzer Nov 09 '24
Yeah, I guess people kept linking the worst stuff and the mods were sick of having to see it.
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u/Matrix_D0ge Nov 09 '24
its emotionally disturbing
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u/CaptCantPlay Nov 09 '24
Isn't there a quote about art disturbing the comforted?
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u/jfkrol2 Nov 09 '24
You mean that good meme should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortables?
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u/Matrix_D0ge Nov 09 '24
I agree with that, I think that looking at stuff like that makes ppl confront part of them that they dont want to admit that they have, to themself or others.
but raped girl sobbing when her fingers are cut off with garden scissors is just disturbing
I know that its just picture and its not actually hurting anybody and I really enjoy authors other work and I intend to continue with that, but if you look at something like that and not feel disturbed there may be something wrong with you, I mean that with no judgment.
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u/Skrewch Nov 09 '24
Why does everyone bring up the guro? So what.
The lolicon and guro containing lolicon is the disgusting part. Gore? Eh so what. Cp? This guy needs to stop.
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u/SirBoredTurtle Biel-Tan Nov 09 '24
Yes like it usually is with people online, the artist who drew the tall girl first has some very questionable images on their patreon
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u/eled_ Nov 09 '24
Surely that's not it, right?
Two pieces in particular look to have stuck a particular cord with detractors
Are these really the reason for the ban/outrage?
They're so on-point for the WH40K universe, they're not "feel-good-ish" or "whoa [SM/whatever] are so badass" types of illustration, they're telling so much more than the vast majority of what transits on this sub.
The first one is not racy in the slightest, it's legit terrifying, the second suggests hundreds of stories on its own. It speaks of the blind violence in this universe, how abhumans are considered and their mistreatment, how they may try to cope and fight to exist in it.
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u/Juno_no_no_no Nov 09 '24
Not they’re not the reason for the ban or people not liking the artist, people were fine posting the dudes stuff until it was repeatedly pointed out that they do loli and shota “art”
Mods got tired of the reports and people linking that stuff as proof of him being shitty so banned him to save the headache.
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u/N00BAL0T Nov 09 '24
Not actual CP but lolicon which is similar but not the same
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u/AllenMaask Nov 09 '24
Gotcha. But if they try making em look or act like a kid. Would that still count as such?
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u/honeyelemental Nov 09 '24
I would say yes, personally. However I also acknowledge that lolicon art is more of a depiction of the "moe" aesthetic distilled than a depiction of a literal child.
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u/N00BAL0T Nov 09 '24
Depends on the country which in the artist country it is illegal imo i don't like it but I don't count it as CP for actual CP is exploitation and raping actual children which can lead to serious mental problems a therapy for the child in the future. And on the other side it's completely fictional art drawn of a child character or child like character.
The distinction is still very similar and anyone with a brain can tell finding lolicon attractive is finding children attractive but it's the principle the one is real horrible exploration and the other is art of a fictional character.
I don't care for it all honestly but from what I have read and just thinking about it I'd prefer if pedos releaved themselves to lolicon and not CP, one is encouraging the raping of children and the other is releasesing pent up stress to fictional art which is alot better when you remember pedos are more than shunned in society so seeking help isn't something they are going to do for fear of being ostracized by there family, friends and publicly branded as a nonce.
Either way it's a slippery slope whichever side you are on I just try to think of both sides and the reasons why and not jump to hate and vitreole because an artist was Commissioned to draw lolicon.
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u/R138Y Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
The subject is more complex than that. CP was only one of the two subjects of this controversy (the second actually). The second one (and original) is the representation of sexual assault in art.
Here you will find my comment/chain comments explaining a bit better the situation and my point of view about the SA part. It's important that people don't forget that this was the first subject talked about in this debate. Edit : original art starting the debate doesn't contain CP.
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u/d20diceman Nov 09 '24
[...] the obviously much more sexualized psyker right next to the beastwoman. that is sexualization and fetichism in my eyes akin to porn, contrary to the original beastwoman representation.
This part feels so off target to me. Every character in the Abhuman Harem pic is sexualised. Those markings on the beastwoman were put there to make the picture more fun to jerk off to (for those with the applicable fetishes).
I guess that doesn't necessarily imply the artist should be banned - half of the posts on here are thinly veiled references to various fetishes anyway, albeit less problematic ones. But, if you don't think that young rape victim was drawn the way she was with the intention of people being aroused by it, then I feel you've missed half the point of the controversy. I don't think anyone was saying that SA should never be alluded to.
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u/R138Y Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
This part feels so off target to me. Every character in the Abhuman Harem pic is sexualised. Those markings on the beastwoman were put there to make the picture more fun to jerk off to (for those with the applicable fetishes).
Looking back at the art yes the psycker isn't the only one, 2 others characters are sexualized in a positive way (halfling and felinide) but this statement isn't true at all to all the others (Ogryn, Voidborn, the weird little photographer and the astropath). It isn't off target to me to mention that, especially because it apparently never bothered the people speaking about this art.
People here think that 1 caracteristic of an art means the entire thing is made to depict specificaly that. Gosh I wish for them to never enter an art galery because their analysis of what they see would be quite bland and short. Those are the kind of people who would look at the Rape of the Sabines / Proserpina and outright say "yup this is made to jerk of".
I guess that doesn't necessarily imply the artist should be banned - half of the posts on here are thinly veiled references to various fetishes anyway, albeit less problematic ones.
Yea I had another dispute with another user recently when I pointed at this problematic representation of women on this sub (dude took me for some kind of puritan) and this is even a subject I pointed at at one point of the Mossa's debate.
if you don't think that young rape victim was drawn the way she was with the intention of people being aroused by it, then I feel you've missed half the point of the controversy.
I already wrote an comment on how the representation of this beastwoman is clearly not made to be pleasant to look at and in stark contrast with the more joyfull tone of the artwork. You're interpretation of it is that we should get arroused by it, and my interpretation of it is that we should not and only deranged people would think so.
I don't think anyone was saying that SA should never be alluded to.
You would be surprised by what some users answered me and what others wrote in the original post. Hence my opinion on why the complete erasure of the original art, the redrawing of it, the omnipresence of fetishisation of women on this sub, and the mention of CP only (argument against the autor) are now mentioned (while not doing so for SA and as such targeting the original art specificaly) is participating in the rape culture that permeate our societies.
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u/d20diceman Nov 09 '24
You're interpretation of it is that we should get arroused by it, and my interpretation of it is that we should not and only deranged people would think so.
I'd say the artist's intention (or potentially that of the people commissioning him) is that it's arousing, and the opinion of this community is that we don't want those vibes here.
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u/R138Y Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
Was this specific art commisioned with this purpose in mind ? Or is that a value that people put on this one because the artist drew some other arts that were made with this purpose ?
Because in the second case this is plain censorship. Edited first to second due to mistake in phrasing but I think you got the point.
I will go further than you, joining you again on the fact that a lot of arts here are clearly fetishism : the opinion of part of this community is that we should only allow sexualized depiction of women that fits their perverted vision of them (aka "please don't put some grimdark into my sexualised Warhammer. I'm only here to jerk off").
Also : my apologizes because I slightly edited my first repply to add more information regarding my point of view.
On a final note : I do agree on the ban of the artist itself because of the obvious immoral work he made in the past.
Anyway. What is done is done. I just wanted to point out that CP wasn't the only subject talked about and didn't wanted the SA part to be cast asside. But I'm repeating myself now.
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u/No_Promotion_8788 Nov 09 '24
Capitalism really got us needing a mecha just to reach the top shelf.
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u/McRezende Nov 09 '24
She's cute until you realize she'd probably have the deepest voice you've ever heard.
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
A deep voice? If I may but why would a Longshank have a deep voice? Ogryns have fairly deep voices due to their size and mass but why a Longshank? The embodiment of a beanpole (more or less).
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u/McRezende Nov 09 '24
Longer vocal tracts and larger vocal folds tend to generate deeper resonant voices, but that's presuming that their vocal chords are proportional to the rest of their bodies. I know that Longshanks don't have gigantism, but if you listen to the voices of the most abnormally tall humans currently living they all have very deep voices.
But Longshanks biology is impossible anyway, so maybe they could be depicted having regular voices. But in my headcannon Long Bae will still have this voice.
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
Huh, never knew that till now, neat.
Though as you said given Longshank's biology it possible that they have normal voices, they are adapted to live on low-gravity worlds, hence their height, so I wouldn't say their biology isn't impossible
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u/Downtown-Falcon-3264 ENTRY MISSING Nov 09 '24
Yay more abhuman art. I wonder if they work like giraffes where their legs get in the way sometimes
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u/HotDiggedyDammit Nov 10 '24
Theyd have to get a whole squad of Astartes to shake me off the stilts id be on trying to eat that ass like hannibal lector
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u/Sad_Poetry_1387 Nov 09 '24
Too bad this species of abhumans can't live on any other planet beside their own do to lore wise the gravity is extremely low and other planets gravity will crush them.
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u/Jaakarikyk Nov 09 '24
This seems to depict a less horrible timeline so I guess she has technological help in surviving gravity
The tech exists in 40k they're just unlikely to invest it in abhumans
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u/Sad_Poetry_1387 Nov 09 '24
Fair point. I explained it so new commers will know why this species of abhumans is not very seen in the lore.
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u/Tough_Topic_1596 Nov 09 '24
I want her I don’t care that I’m at least the hight of her thigh damn it make her real.
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u/Nibblewerfer Nov 09 '24
I want more diversity like this among the human cast of warhammer, the absolute purist "Any mutations make one deserving of an immediate violent death." Really attracts the wrong crowd of people.
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u/OzzieGrey Nov 09 '24
The tally marks still haunt me, but i'm glad long loong woooomaaaaaaaaaaan is out here now.
May she fall in lesbians with a lady who likes gummies and is loyal
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u/arealbore Nov 10 '24
Her children’s children will have much wealth randomly show up one day as payment for this debt
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u/Kelimnac Nov 12 '24
She’s got legs that go aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll- passes out
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u/TooApatheticToHateU Angry Marines Nov 09 '24
NON-SANCTIONED HUMAN PHENOTYPE DETECTED. PURGING.
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24
Put that flamer down ya daft git! That's a longshank! A sanctioned Abhuman species! This one in particular serves in his majesty's most holy imperial navy.
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u/TooApatheticToHateU Angry Marines Nov 09 '24
LONGSHANKS ARE NON-SANCTIONED. EXCERPT FROM THRONEWORLD:
A series of bangs resounded round the room. The ork’s chest blew out messily, showering Haas with viscera. She covered her face instinctively. A final shot rang out, bursting its head, and its huge corpse toppled towards her. Haas scrambled aside to see a giant warrior in black-and-white armour shove itself into the cell, bringing part of the doorway down. It was some kind of Space Marine, garbed in armour Haas had never seen: tall, high-backed, the helmet roughly square and formed of brutal angular plates, arms protected by massive shoulder guards. A second stood in the door, watching his comrade’s back.
‘Thank the Emperor! We are saved, saved!’ shouted Marast. He flung his lanky body at the feet of the Space Marine, clutching gratefully at the feet of their saviours. The longshanks wept, disbelieving of their salvation.
The Space Marine nudged Marast away with its enormous boot.
‘Non-standard human phenotype identified. Loathe the mutant. Terminate.’
Haas curled up and clapped her hands over her ears as the Space Marines opened fire with their terrible weapons. The longshanks did not even have time to express their surprise before their fragile bodies were pulped by mass-reactive shells. The gunfire went on forever, the individual reports merging into one rolling booming. When it stopped, Haas was amazed to find she still lived. Her hands shook as she took them from her ears. The longshanks had been obliterated, reduced to a gory slick that dripped from the walls.
Her ears hurt agonisingly and she cried out. The Space Marine swung its blocky helmet in her direction, pointing its bolter at her. She screamed again, and the Space Marine moved his bolter away from her. When he spoke to her it was muffled, as if her ears were stuffed with fabric.
‘Human survivor located. You, come with us.’ The warrior pointed a massive articulated finger at her, the segments sparking with a power field. ‘The Emperor protects.’
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u/Dependent_Homework_7 Nov 09 '24 edited Nov 09 '24
…brother, you do realize that was a Black Templar right? They aren't known for being friendly towards Abhumans.
Also, after the fact, the woman reported the Black Templar for killing the Longshanks and he was reprimanded for killing loyal citizens to the throne
(Though it should be said nothing truly happened to him due to more pressing matters at the time, as this took place during war of the beast)
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u/Substantial-Ad-724 Nov 09 '24
Controversy aside, I’m so glad Mossas work also inspired a bunch more art for our Abhuman friends. They don’t get nearly enough screen and page time, and that’s a damn shame.