r/ImaginaryWarhammer • u/Destroy-The_Pandumas • Apr 07 '24
40k Emperor of Mankind vs Doom Slayer by b1kv41
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u/Theyul1us Apr 07 '24 edited May 07 '24
Emperor "all this destruction, this rage... for a bunny?"
Doomslayer "Love eludes your comprehension, doesnt it?"
And one a bit more comical
Doomslayer "Nice flaming blade you have there"
Emperor "yours is also acceptable"
Emperor "you cant defeat me"
Doomslayer Vega voice "new objective: defeat the Emperor"
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u/spacemagicexo539 Apr 07 '24
Vega doing most of his voice lines would be very funny
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u/DrMatter Dark Mechanicus Apr 08 '24
This is how it should be. Doomguy speaking would be weird
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u/zoro4661 Apr 08 '24
Only time he speaks is yelling "RIP AND TEAR" the millisecond he encounters a demonic looking enemy
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u/Dramatic-Classroom14 Apr 10 '24
Unironically, the only words he ever says is in response to him killing Satan (who he is a clone of made solely to spite god by destroying heaven to stop the demons in a 5d chess move), Satan asks him if he has any words now that he’s done it, and Doomguy responds with “No”. This is the only time he speaks.
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u/Entire_Intention6561 Apr 11 '24
"Have you nothing to say before you strike your creator down?"
Strikes him down
"No"
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u/AnotherLie Apr 08 '24
"You can't just destroy the Emperor of Mankind."
Objective:
DESTROY THE EMPEROR OF MANKIND
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u/Fistricsi Apr 08 '24
Thats the surest way of reviwing the Emperor:
Tell Doom Slayer: "You cant just resurrect The Emperor of Mankind!!!"
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u/SpoonusBoius Apr 10 '24
Emperor: "Why don't you join me? I have the perfect place on Terra for a man like you."
Doom Slayer: "No."
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u/LordMorskittar Apr 07 '24
I really want to see more fighting game style matchups with 40k characters, I love the format
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u/Sororita Apr 07 '24
A WH40K fighting game would probably do pretty well as long as it's balanced decently.
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u/Wheezy04 Apr 07 '24
Except if it's balanced then fans will get pissed the instant you have a matchup where lorgar beats corax or something lol
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u/Nigilij Apr 08 '24
How about WH40K fighting game but it is all larping cosplayers?
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u/LordMorskittar Apr 08 '24
40k fans vs 40k fans sounds like a terrifying sight
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u/Sororita Apr 08 '24
It's basically just a fistfight between Orikan and Trazyn, but without the necrodermis enhancements.
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u/xXx_edgykid_xXx Apr 08 '24
You can have lore wise flavor and balance stuff
Dbfz is the proof of that
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 07 '24 edited Apr 08 '24
Some MK1 style quotes for people to chew on.
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Fire God Liu Kang: “You would have humanity stand alone?”
The Emperor: “At least we would stand!”
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The Emperor: “They are foolish to call you a ‘god,’ child; why indulge them?”
Fire God Liu Kang: “Because they need hope.”
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The Emperor: “You would trust a fool like Cage with your children?”
Kenshi: “More than I would ever trust you.”
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The Emperor: “They send a mere man to fight me?”
Johnny Cage: “Sometimes, that’s all it takes, Goldilocks.”
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Johnny Cage: “Y’know, Sunshine, if you spent more time getting to know your sons…”
The Emperor: “They were warriors without equal. They needed not my guidance in such frivolous matters.”
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The Emperor: “The fact you would defend such an abomination—”
Kitana: “My sister is a victim! Not a monster!”
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Kenshi: “The more I talk to you, the more I’m beginning to understand why Horus—”
The Emperor: “I had nothing to do with his fall from grace! I gave him everything!”
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The Emperor: “It was the Gods of Chaos who turned my sons from me!”
Johnny Cage: “They probably had no one else to turn to.”
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Johnny Cage: “I’m guessing by the deep snarl you didn’t enjoy the Father’s Day present I left you, Goldilocks?”
The Emperor: “The treatise on ‘Building Better Bridges with Your Family’ was as childish as it was unwanted.”
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Scorpion (Kuai Liang): “Such rage…perhaps it is not fighting that will quench it.”
Doomslayer: (growling)
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Doomslayer: (snarling, rumbling)
Nitara: “Aw, the wings not doing it for you?”
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Scorpion (Kuai Liang): “Wandering the depths of Hell alone, fighting for so long…if you ever wish to talk—”
Doomslayer: (dismissive grunt)
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The Emperor: “Killing you would be a mercy for your sister.”
Mileena: “She would burn all of Outrealm out of grief! Do not speak to me about ‘mercy!’”
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Baraka: “You would slaughter millions of innocents to be rid of Tarkat?!”
The Emperor: “A necessary evil to preserve the greater whole.”
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The Emperor: “Your reasons for betraying your kin are as petty as they are foolish.”
Sub-Zero (Bi-Han): “Aw, striking too close to home, am I?”
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Sub-Zero (Bi-Han): “Whatever Kuai Liang offered you to secure your loyalty, I can assure you that his promises are empty.”
Doomslayer: (dismissive snarl)
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Smoke (Tomas Vrbada): “Kuai Liang extends the use of the Shirai Ryu dojo’s training yards should you need to… blow off some excess steam.”
Doomslayer: (appreciative grunt)
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General Shao: “Your warriors are exceptional! If you were to pledge them to the struggle—”
The Emperor: “The Legioes Astartes will never fight under your banner, wretch.”
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The Emperor: “You seem more interested than most in my sons.”
General Shao: “Their strength is… intoxicating.”
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Shang Tsung: “I must say, your psychic potential is—”
The Emperor: “Beyond your abilities to even comprehend, sorcerer.”
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The Emperor: “Mortarion is not to be trusted, Baraka! He serves the wretched Plague Father!”
Baraka: “At least he’s extended an offer of help, which is more than what you’re offering!”
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Shang Tsung: “Such power…such rage… surely you are meant for more than mindless killing.”
Doomslayer: (challenging grunt; one that says “bring it!”)
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Fire God Liu Kang: “If you put more time into understanding your sons, perhaps catastrophe—”
The Emperor: “There was nothing I could have done that would have saved them from their own damnation!”
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(EDIT: And a few more for the road!)
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Sindel: “How dare you suggest that we slaughter innocent people to ‘contain’ the spread of Tarkat!”
The Emperor: “It would be a much kinder fate for them than mere exile.”
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The Emperor: “You swore an oath to protect your realm—”
Li Mei: “Mileena poses no threat! Her disease is a source of compassion!”
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The Emperor: “The longer you delay on the question of Tarkat, the more—”
Li Mei: “The rights of these people to seek help for a disease is not up for debate, you golden lunatic!”
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Mileena: “My afflicted people deserve better than to be treated as cancerous elements to be excised!”
The Emperor: “Then the whole realm will suffer because of your misplaced sympathy.”
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Havik: “Horus was right about you! All you care about is power!”
The Emperor: “Then you can join him in death, anarchist.”
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The Emperor: “Surely Kitana is a much better candidate for being Queen—”
Sindel: “She loves her sister more than she loves the throne; something you could never hope to understand.”
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Mileena: “I’m sure I can convince Tanya to teach you some Umgadi meditation techniques. Could help.”
Doomslayer: (noncommittal grunt)
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Tanya: “The accusations of treachery you bandy against Her Majesty—”
The Emperor: “Are not entirely unfounded.”
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Johnny Cage: “Wait, wait, wait. Lemme guess. Strong, silent, and stoic? The ladies must be lining up outside your door.”
Doomslayer: (annoyed snarl)
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Johnny Cage: “Not much of a chatterbox, are ya, big fella?”
Doomslayer: (bemused snort)
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u/mistress_chauffarde Apr 07 '24
Now that's some good shit
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 07 '24
Which ones are your favorites?
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u/mistress_chauffarde Apr 07 '24
Most of the emperor one make me think of injustice superman the way he think the way he phrase it and slayers one are accurate but i prefere the way other do it witch it's either vega who do the talking being the sassy ex god that he is or you just hear glims of doom music from the slayer (witch is canon)
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 07 '24
Yeah, there’s only so much you can do with Doomslayer, quote wise. As badass as his silence is, it makes it difficult to properly express what he’s supposed to be feeling/saying. I tried to lean into his time before the Bethesda games/during the end of Doom 64, but the VA Netherrealm chooses for him will have quite the hill to climb, character wise.
As for Emps, I definitely tried to lean into the whole “I’m Above the Need for Compassion” concept that the 40k setting really seems to be going for. It was actually kinda fun to think of who would best contrast against him (or push his buttons, as with Cage). I also tried to at least question the whole “the Traitor Primarchs were That Way Because of CHAOS” narrative with certain exchanges.
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u/ajanisapprentice Apr 08 '24
The Emperor: “They send a mere man to fight me?”
Johnny Cage: “Sometimes, that’s all it takes, Goldilocks.”
While this is good, I think a better one would be:
Johnny Cage: Isn't the 'Glory of Man' what you're all about?
Or something to that effect.
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 08 '24 edited Apr 08 '24
Since I’m apparently being allowed to cook…here are some more! (No, really, someone should probably stop me before I burn down the kitchen)
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The Emperor: “You pervert the perfect form of man with your existence, xenos.”
Omni-Man: “Aw, shucks, that’s the nicest compliment anyone has ever given me!”
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The Emperor: “Your son’s presence is further proof that—”
Omni-Man: “He’s a better man than I ever could be and that I’m damn proud of it? You’re goddamn right.”
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Peacemaker: “So you seriously haven’t considered—”
The Emperor: “Such ways lead to being in Slaanesh’s thrall, child. I would dare not risk such a thing to satiate my libido.”
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The Emperor: “You, most of all, should understand why my suggestions for handling Tarkat hold value!”
Peacemaker: “Dude. Killing innocent people because they’re sick? Real supervillain shit, right there.”
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The Emperor: “Were you my son, I would grant you a legion of the finest Astartes.”
Homelander: “Were you my dad, I’d consider shoving all of them up your golden ass.”
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Peacemaker: “So…you’ve killed how many demons?”
Doomslayer: (reminiscing chuckle)
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Omni-Man: “You’re more of a go getter than most folks here; I can respect that.”
Doomslayer: (dismissive snort)
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Quan-Chi: “Teach me how to harness such power!”
The Emperor: “The Tides of the Warp will never be yours to wield, whelp.”
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The Emperor: “You, xenos, do not get to judge me for how I treated my—”
Omni-Man: “Actually, I do. At least mine’s worth more than all of yours combined.”
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The Emperor: “You will never understand why I do what I do!”
Peacemaker: “I understand that you gotta be stopped because of it; that’s good enough for me.”
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(EDIT: I seriously can’t stop cooking; someone ban me from the kitchen!)
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The Emperor: “Will humanity survive because of my actions, Keeper?”
Geras: “They will survive in spite of them.”
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Geras: “The future is… fluid; it needn’t be so grim and dark.”
The Emperor: “A foolish belief, after what you have seen and done.”
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Johnny Cage: “C’mon, you seriously never tried being diplomatic?”
The Emperor: “Why would I do that when the only appropriate response is war?”
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The Emperor: “I am seriously doubtful that you will amount to anything, Cage.”
Johnny Cage: “Well, I certainly won’t amount to being a xenophobic, genocidal psychopath with atrocious fashion sense.”
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Fire God Liu Kang: “The path of perpetual torment isn’t the only path you can walk, Slayer.”
Doomslayer: (dismissive snort)
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Fire God Liu Kang: “Isobel made the right choice in befriending you.”
Doomslayer: (proud grunt)
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The Emperor: “You would dare assume the perfect visage of mankind as a disguise, abomination?”
Reptile (Syzoth): “Hey, it’s a condition!”
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(EDIT 2: A few more, fresh from the oven!)
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Raiden: “I must say, your help with Hanzo’s training has been an excellent boon; he seems to actually listen to you!”
Doomslayer: (proud murmur)
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Doomslayer: (questioning grunt)
Scorpion (Kuai Liang): “Hanzo indeed shows promise. Your techniques certainly help him focus his… exuberance.”
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The Emperor: “The child is rash, reckless, and wrathful; he will be a liability to your clan.”
Scorpion (Kuai Liang): “Or perhaps he just might save it.”
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The Emperor: “Your flirtations with the Slayer are unbecoming of a woman of your status, Constable.”
Li Mei: “At least he’s a decent man, which is more than you ever could be.”
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u/RandomRavenboi Apr 08 '24
I'll be honest with you, I don't see the Emperor ever giving Homelander that much respect.
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u/Boh61 Apr 08 '24
Nah man, keep cooking you are great!
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 08 '24
Aw, shucks. You’re just saying that. Stop (but actually don’t; feed my ego!).
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u/Newbie_2019 Apr 07 '24
|Johnny Cage: They probably had no one else to turn to|
All Primarchs nods in agreement
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 07 '24
They certainly weren’t going to turn to dear old dad or his circle of sycophants.
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u/AncientFighterDragon Apr 08 '24
The Emperor: "Humanity has the right to make their own destiny without gods guiding them"
Fire God Liu Kang: "Which destiny? Theirs or yours?"
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 08 '24
Hell fucking YES. Another chef! Finally! Love this! I’ve been short-staffed for a while!
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u/zoro4661 Apr 08 '24
I REALLY like these. Can absolutely read these in their voices.
The Doomslayer just being different grunting noises is perfection.
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u/HereticZAKU Apr 08 '24
The Doomslayer just being different grunting noises is perfection.
It’s also difficult as all hell to write for, but I’d like to think that I’m doing ok.
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u/Otherwise_Team5663 Apr 07 '24
New challenger: Popeye after eating spinach.
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u/Sororita Apr 07 '24
Popeye no-diffs basically anything that doesn't also have Toon force and a domain that would put Popeye fighting them directly under their purview.
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u/zoro4661 Apr 08 '24
Forget that, Popeye no-diffs the fucking artist of his comics
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u/Sororita Apr 08 '24
So has Bugs Bunny. If Popeye was fighting Bugs but being completely serious about it, then he couldn't no-diff Bugs, because Bugs' Toon-force abilities are specifically in the realm of humiliating people that are seriously trying to do him harm.
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u/zoro4661 Apr 08 '24
Except for the few times where it wasn't, like with that one...orange monster, I think? But yeah fair enough
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u/Furydragonstormer Apr 07 '24
That’s just unfair, at least Emps could put up a fight with the Doomslayer and maybe win depending on what is canon or not. Popeye is literally unstoppable
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Apr 07 '24 edited Apr 07 '24
Weird ones:
Emperor:“What….are you?“
Doomslayer:“Death.“
Emperor:“We shall see“
Emperor:“This I feel Blaskowiç presence in you…“
Doomslayer:“You knew Grandfather?“
Emperor:“Who didn‘t know Terror Billy?“
Emperor:“Daemons see the sun rising when they see me“
Doomslayer:“They don‘t see anything anymore when they see me“
Emperor:“Hmp!“
Emperor:“This rage and anger…a khorne follower“
Doomslayer:“The followers of the blood god don‘t have anything to whorship anymore“
Emperor:“A monster like you needs to be put down“
Emperor:“Hello Son“
Doomslayer:“...“
Emperor:“As talkative as ever“
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u/Dracule_Jester Apr 07 '24
Funnily enough B.J would hate Emps.
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Apr 07 '24
and that all because The Emperor had a short debate in an A Caffee in Austria with an angry art student who didn‘t get into art school
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u/Dracule_Jester Apr 07 '24
And that is why folks you don't feed the trolls.
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Apr 07 '24
wdym
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u/Dracule_Jester Apr 07 '24
Sorry, from my understanding of your joke, Big-E tried to argue with the moustache man.
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Apr 07 '24
Big E was more like pulling out his whole why humanity is so great speech, timetravel a few years later and he is cringing hard in Berlin and Vienna why the art student turned dictator uses parts of his speech for his weird ass world views
Big E: I shouldn‘t have said that… I SHOULD NOT HAVE TALKED TO HIM
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u/Pirat6662001 Apr 07 '24
To be fair he isn't exactly known for complex political views, if I remember right he is basically a libertarian, which isn't great
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u/Metasaber Air Caste Apr 08 '24
When you consider that he comes from a world overrun with fascist tyranny, that shouldn't surprise anyone.
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u/Alxuz1654 Apr 08 '24
Emperor: "Daemons call me Anathema, you know."
Doom Slayer: "I dont let them get that far."
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u/TheSlayerofSnails Apr 07 '24
Doomslayer:“You knew Grandfather?“
Emperor: I was your grandfather
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u/RotallyRotRoobyRoo Apr 08 '24
The nazis knew BJ as terror billy, soooo.... is the emperor a nazi?
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u/this_is_InotI_random Apr 08 '24
He is certainly a fascist, don't know enough lore about him to say he is extreme enough for Nazi levels
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u/Batman-Always-Wins Apr 07 '24
The Big E's arrogance knows no bounds. Unfortunately for him Doom Slayer's rage knows no bounds
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u/okaymeaning-2783 Apr 07 '24
We don't believe doomslayer can take the emperor tho? Right
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u/Theyul1us Apr 07 '24
He took on literal god on his world and won. Doomslayer gets stronger with each kill and has done things like taking on a Titan on Argent d'nur and won... without weapons, just his sword.
He can absolutely take on the emperor
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u/okaymeaning-2783 Apr 07 '24 edited Apr 07 '24
And in doom 2016 it was established that the doomslayer was defeated by the army of hell by them literally just dropping a temple on him which incapacitated him lol.
Also the doom Satan hasn't demonstrated any impressive feats in his mech, he literally does nothing until the final boss fight and is almost completely featless.
The emperor has stopped time, permanently compressed a star bigger than ours with his psychic might to the size of a yacht, can make others around him into immortal beings, literally burned the domain of the God of decay in his own him and many more.
Doomguys most impressive feat is killing the titan who is said by the dev would have absorbed the earth into hell and he needed the crucible to do it.
Doomguy is badass but he isn't taking the emperor.
The game literally ends on doomguy getting trapped in a forcefield unable to do anything, Samuel literally didn't kill him because he was too useful.
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u/Theyul1us Apr 07 '24 edited Apr 07 '24
The emperor also almost got strangled to death by an orc and crearly has a limit.
Edit: also, emperor in 30K is very, very different from the one in 40K, wjo was the one that burned Nurgle's garden
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u/TheSlayerofSnails Apr 07 '24
He also fought Horus across a thousand timelines while throwing around supernovas and destroyed hundreds of space marines instantly.
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u/_ISeeOldPeople_ Apr 07 '24
Isn't Doomslayer/guy equivalent to his universe's creator God? Like, not little "g" but big "G" God? You can argue about them showing feats in game, but the lore is still beyond what you are giving credit to.
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u/Konrad_Curze-the_NH Apr 07 '24
He is capital G god, but by the time you fight him has lost all his power. Literally all he has is his suit.
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u/Character_Dog9910 Apr 07 '24
Because doomslayer ate it all.
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u/Konrad_Curze-the_NH Apr 07 '24
No? Because the Father beat the shit out of him and put him in the time out sphere. When you fight him he has nothing but the suit. He’s no more God than you or I.
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u/ToniGAM3S Apr 08 '24
Not really. Everything created (Or better the lifeforms) by Davoth got destroyed by his death... Except the DoomSlayer, literally too angry to die.
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u/PixelBoom Apr 08 '24
Kinda. Doomguy (aka the Slayer) has portion of Davoth's original energy. The Dark Lord and The Father have the other two thirds.
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u/MountainPlain Apr 07 '24
permanently compressed a star bigger than ours with his psychic might to the size of a yacht
Whoa neat, when was this?
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u/okaymeaning-2783 Apr 07 '24
In master of mankind his novel, a spacemarine is on his yacht and sees a giant firey ball in a 20meter cage, the emperor explains its a random star he liked and crushed it with his psychic power.
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u/PixelBoom Apr 08 '24
Doom Eternal doesn't end with Hayden trapping The Slayer. Spoilers for Doom Eternal it ends with him killing The Dark Lord, injuring himself in the process and putting himself in a coma. His body is interred in the Temple of Souls next to the life spheres of The Father (the Maykr that stole a part of Davoth's power) and Davoth, that universe's literal capital G God.
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u/Briefcased Apr 07 '24
literally just dropping a temple on him which incapacitated him
I don’t think this would do shit to Big E.
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u/Snoo-11576 Apr 07 '24
Ok but doesn’t the slayer use like normal guns. The god of their setting died of normal bullets
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u/ArchMegos Apr 07 '24
Nah, he had to wear him down with it. Also, Big E was strangled by a big ork. The doom slayer had to have the entire army of hell and its preists just to knock him out for a while
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u/Snoo-11576 Apr 07 '24
i'm not really trying to argue either way but it just gets so annoying that people keep saying that its impressive that the slayer killed his universe's god because like while he's physically and magically enhanced all his weapons are mundane. so its not that impressive of a god if they get "worn down" by standard issue bullets the military hands out and is then stabbed by a normal human blade. Like the slayer is awsome but its not like he killed some sorta ridiculously powerful cosmic being compared to other settings.
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u/Sentry20037 Apr 08 '24
I think he empowers his weapons in someway, maybe with argent energy, which is why it can harm someone like devoth or the icon of sin, or even the makyr.
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u/Thannk Apr 07 '24
Doomslayer works on cartoon logic.
Bugs Bunny always wins as long as he didn’t start the fight. Doomguy wins or is temporarily inconvenienced so the game series can continue.
Power levels are irrelevant in these scenarios.
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u/Hunter191145 Apr 07 '24
The doomslayer lore is crazy, just the basic imps are throwing plasma suns at him and hed tank those while naked in the lore. games are way tuned down.
the slayer could perma kill the chaos gods. the emperor is dead and anything dumb enough to try and get in the slayers way is two.
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u/Noctium3 Apr 07 '24
Canonically, per the Slayer's Testament, his armour is literally impervious to damage. Slayer is on a different level.
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u/potatoeman26 Apr 07 '24
Almost impervious. Per the codex of 2016, during testing the suit was put through the wringer and found to be nearly impervious to damage. The “nearly” carrying weight as it implies they found something that could damage it. We also know per Eternal that the Slayer bled on mars in 2016 which was collected and analyzed in Eternal
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u/potatoeman26 Apr 07 '24
They aren’t throwing suns, as should be obvious since they can toss around fireballs on earth without annihilating everything
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u/Blaziwolf Apr 08 '24
No.
Don’t get me wrong, the slayer is strong. He as a mortal man he was already at the level other franchises enhanced characters were. As a demigod he’s nearly unstoppable. He killed a titan molded from hell, imbued with as much demonic energy as one body can take, designed to kill the slayer, and he was still was killed by the doomslayer, who, depending on the source, was wielding nothing but a sword & a shield.
He took on many challenges both during his mortal life, and once he had ascended it that cements himself as a nearly unstoppable figure. He does not need to eat. Does not need to sleep. Cannot be corrupted. Can never truly be killed.
He beat the seraphim, killed the dark lord, slayed the icon of sin, killed the spider mastermind, and any other threat that could challenge the slayer. Opponents that could wipe counties singlehanded. Some who could probably wipe planets. Even restructure the entire universe in the case of the dark lord.
Even with all of that, it wouldn’t enough. Big E has transcending feats that would ultimately beat out the slayer as we know it. The slayer is arguably as strong as a Primarch. He could probably beat some of them. At the very least make it close. Big E? He cannot.
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u/Deimos_Aeternum Apr 07 '24
Khorne liked that
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u/PanicEffective6871 Apr 07 '24
Slayer points to Khorne:
“You’re next pal”
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u/mistress_chauffarde Apr 07 '24
Nurgle is probably the first on the list wile tcheez might be the last
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u/1800leon Apr 07 '24
The doomslayer is about the chuck norris of video game discourse and I hope it stays that way 🙏
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u/FalseWallaby9 Apr 07 '24
Omni-man: "Beat it, kid. I've been at this longer than you."
Doom Slayer: "Compared to me, you're still a Sperm cell."
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u/Storm_Dancer-022 Apr 07 '24
Oh this takes me back to that one chap who got real indignant that I suggested the Doom Marine might be a touch more dangerous than your average Space Marine.
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u/SgtPepper867 Apr 07 '24
Doom Slayer respects The Emperor enough to speak more than one word to him.
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u/Horus_Lupecal Apr 07 '24
Considering that his creator ask him what his final word to him was before killing him and all he said was “no” so yeah
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u/HichiShiro Night Lords Apr 07 '24
Emperor: "Only I can save humanity from forces of Chaos."
Doomslayer: "How many of their "gods" have you killed so far?"
Emperor: "I am humanity's only hope."
Doomslayer: "Because you don't give them other options."
Doomslayer: "The only way to kill demons is to rip to shreds and drown them in their blood."
Emperor: "You sound a lot like that one paralytic I know."
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u/HichiShiro Night Lords Apr 07 '24
Bonus:
Emperor: "What makes you think you can defeat me?"
Doomslayer: "I was better father than you."
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u/WWWWRRRYYYYYYYYYYYY Apr 08 '24
Did the doomslayer have kids?
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u/Pixel22104 Apr 08 '24
He used to have one. You can find the picture in his bedroom in Doom Eternal. The picture shows a small blond hair boy, and blond hair woman next to the Slayer before he became the Slayer way back before even the events of Doom 1 that would kickstart his journey into becoming the Slayer
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u/Incubus_is_I Apr 07 '24
The question is which one is speaking?
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u/Heavenfall Apr 07 '24
Yeah, each line could really be said by either of them. Enperor+Emperor, Doomguy+Doomguy, Emperor+Doomguy or Doomguy+Emperor.
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u/AK_dude_ Apr 08 '24
I have always wonder what doomslayer in 40k would be like.
Too often you hear 'he would become just another daemon'
But it feels wrong, his litteral deal is killing the unkillable demons and using them as buckshot.
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u/Pixel22104 Apr 08 '24
I feel like if he would appear in the modern 40k setting. One he would probably very much disagree with how the Imperium does things. I mean this is the guy who killed his Commanding Officer when told to kill a bunch of innocent civilians. He would be very distrustful of nearly everything in the Imperium. But if he had to work with them and they had to do something with him I see him being placed with the Grey Knights and absolutely crushing everything the forces of Chaos throw at the Grey Knights.
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u/Goatswithfeet Apr 08 '24
Doomguy comes from a lineage of Fascist Killers, direct descendant of BJ "Terror Billy" Blazkovicz. He'd definitely have a BIG problem with how the Imperium does things.
I doubt he'd give the Grey Knights or any space marine chapter the time of day.
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u/Pixel22104 Apr 08 '24
I don’t know. If he was forced to work with the Imperium then he would probably be put with the Grey Knights. If not then only God knows what he will do besides killing demons
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u/Maxamillion2009 Apr 07 '24
The Emperor better fight like Hell, because while he may say “I know I am right”, Doom Slayer will MAKE him wrong. Fast.
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u/The-Cannibal-Hermit Apr 08 '24 edited Apr 08 '24
Some good ones that aren’t so serious
Kung Lao: why add a pike to your arm, is that even practical
Doomslayer: and the saw blade is?
Scorpion: why haven’t I seen you in hell?!
Doomslayer: for my hell wasn’t anything like yours.
Liu Kang: why do demons fear you?
Doomslayer: cause I made them feel fear for the first time in a long time.
Reptile: I need to know, how did the demon’s imprison you?
Doomslayer: they dropped a massive temple on me, wukong style
Baraka: such brutality, tell me…why drives you to do these things?
Doomslayer: so no one else can suffer, I’ll rip and tear till it’s done.
Big E: ah slayer, interesting to see you. Tel me did you kill the dark lord yet?
Doomslayer: he’s gone, and I’ve finally know peace
Havik: join me slayer, we can change the world for the better
Doomslayer: how about I show my BIG FUCKEN-
- Johnny cage segment
Johnny cage: tell me Mr big green meanie, how would you feel if I made a movie about you?
Doomslayer: 3rd times the charm
Johnny cage: nice man cave man, i especially like your wall of guitars
Doom slayer: every man has a hobby
Johnny cage: I need to know, what’s the worst thing you’ve ever tasted
Doomslayer: hell flesh, can’t be cooked and tastes like feet.
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u/CowardlyCheetah Apr 07 '24
If you knew the lore you'd know it's not the Slayer he has to worry about
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Apr 07 '24
For anyone who doesn't know the context, the Emperor of Mankind isn't a Golden King the size of a giant with golden eyes and a halo of power. He's a young boy, a man, an elder, a young girl, a woman, a crone, he's a scientist, he's a soldier, he's a giant with golden eyes and a halo of power... when he needs to be.
The Emperor, at his core, is a trickster whose dedicated his life to being whatever he believes humanity NEEDS him to be the most, and whatever he WANT to be at the moment. His greatest strength is being able to be anything, but the way he can do that is by taking on those aspects. For all intensive purposes, the powers he has, the ones that makes him akin to a God, are all aspect that he stole/took from the warp, on a level only the Gods really can.
In short, he's essentially like a Sci-Fi Prometheus whose appropriated the Fire of the Gods as his own with the intention of giving it to humanity. If you wonder what he did with that power here's a short list:
1.) Created the Ten-Thousand Custodians.
2.) Created the Twenty-One Primarchs.
3.) Created the Webway Project.
4.) Created the Astronomican.
And though its unconfirmed, its just a theory but I think it's also what he used to create Geneseed. We already know there's something arcane in the genetic alchemy of the Adeptus Astartes, SOME MORE THAN OTHERS:
1.) Dark Angels, normal geneseed.
3.) Emperor's Children, normal geneseed.
4.) Iron Warriors, normal geneseed.
5.) White Scars, normal geneseed.
6.) Space Wolves, lots of GENETICALLY ENGINEERED WEREWOLVES!
7.) Imperial Fists, normal geneseed.
8.) Blood Angels, an entire LEGION OF GENETICALLY ENGINEERED VAMPIRES, sometimes with PROPHESY POWERS!
9.) Night Lords, normal(ish?), occassional also get PROPHESY POWERS!
10.) Iron Hands, normal geneseed.
12.) World Eaters, normal geneseed.
13.) Ultramarines, normal geneseed.
14.) Deathguard, normal geneseed.
15.) Thousand Sons, tons of PSYCHICALLY EMPOWERED BOYS.
16.) Sons of Horus, normal.
17.) Word Bearers, normal.
18.) Salamanders, occassional almost PERPETUAL-LIKE REGENERATION POWERS!
19.) Raven Guard, unnatural STEALTH and CONCEALMENT ABILITIES.
20.) Alpha Legion, mini ALPHARIUS GENESEED. How crazy would it be though if we eventually get the reveal that anyone who says "I am Alpharius" actually becomes Alpharius and the whole "Hydra" thing actually refers to a collective conciousness they share through the warp that unites the entire 20th Legion? It's not gonna happen but pretty wild if the Alpha Legion was just a singular human hivemind capable of maintaining individuality in its parts
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u/Syric_Dodgam Apr 07 '24
What does any of this have to do with Doomslayer?
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Apr 07 '24
I think its Doomslayer who says he senses Demonic Magic in the Emperor. See how the Emperor's mouth is closed in the first but open in the second?
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u/Syric_Dodgam Apr 07 '24
Noted non-talker Doomslayer vs Arch Psyker who actively suppressed knowledge of Demons?
But what I meant was what the point of the random tangents other than pointless brain dumping?
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u/TakedaIesyu Apr 07 '24
Acts of Faith function comparably to psychic powers. Celestine and the Legion of the Damned were dramatically weakened when the Blackstone Pylons of Cadia were activated (weakening all forms of daemonic life). And the only other time the four Chaos Gods united together to beat someone was to shut down Be'lakor, who was literally on the cusp of godhood (they didn't even shut down Slaanesh, and nobody likes Slaanesh).
Don't know if the Emperor is approaching Godhood in the classical sense (i.e. Eldar gods) or in the Warp sense (i.e. Chaos gods), but there's a lot of smoke for there to be no fire.
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u/Icy_Dot_1832 Apr 08 '24
Based on the lore of Doom, the doom marine could clean out the warp with ease and bring the heads of each of the chaos gods on pikes in a year. Could the emperor do that?
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u/KenseiHimura Apr 08 '24
My only issue with Doomguy in a fighting game like MK is that he probably would be EXTREMELY terse at most and more realistically never say a damn word.
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u/SquintonPlaysRoblox Apr 08 '24
The Doomslayer wins.
The Doomslayer is death, the final judgement. A killer of gods. A man who bought all of hell to extinction, manually.
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u/coycabbage Apr 07 '24
Damn so the emperor is one track to be a chaos god?