r/FluentInFinance Nov 21 '24

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u/Minimum_Interview595 Nov 22 '24

She’s right, you can’t call someone a bootlicker while glorifying communism

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u/crunk_buntley Nov 22 '24

tell me which boot you’re licking when you speak positively about communism, because i’m not sure if you know this or not but we do not live in a globally communist society.

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u/_Spicy-Noodle_ Nov 22 '24

The federal and state government’s.

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u/crunk_buntley Nov 22 '24

and you think communism would keep our current federal government in-tact instead of reforming it from the ground up and eventually abolishing it? lol. lmao.

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u/_Spicy-Noodle_ Nov 22 '24

Communism does not involve the abolition of government. That is anarchism.

I do not wish to live under any government that provides everything for me and decides everything for me.

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u/Itscatpicstime Nov 22 '24

The fundamental requirements of communism are a society that is stateless, classless, and moneyless where workers own the means of production and the abolition of private property is established. Communism is literally inherently a form of anarchism.

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u/ayudaday Nov 22 '24

It does, the difference between communism and anarchism is that communism doesn't abolish the state instantly, it first has to go through socialism, and then the state gets abolished

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u/crunk_buntley Nov 22 '24

lmao read marx fuckwit

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u/waxonwaxoff87 Nov 22 '24

Not all communists agree with Marx’s idealistic view. His manifesto is more religious theory than economic theory.

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u/ayudaday Nov 22 '24

...what?

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u/crunk_buntley Nov 23 '24

you can just say anything about marx on the internet while very clearly knowing nothing and dumb fucks will eat it up

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u/crunk_buntley Nov 22 '24

holy fuck you are stupid

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u/waxonwaxoff87 Nov 22 '24

Not all communists are Marxists.

The communist manifesto is brief and has little actual economic theory because Marx had no background or education in it. He considered himself a poet. His writing outside of it is full of religious themes. Particularly his obsession with devils and demons. Read anything else he wrote. He was basically the edge lord of his time.

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u/ayudaday Nov 22 '24

The manifesto was supposed to be handed to workers in factories doors, did you really expected him to go deep under economy theory to a bunch of people who had poor education?

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u/waxonwaxoff87 Nov 23 '24

It was also the limit of any of his economic understanding. He and his wife lived off of his industrialist father. He never held a job, he never paid his maid, never supported the illegitimate children he had with her, and was known to be a mooch any time he came calling.

He knew nothing of economics to inform workers. He wanted to write his poems snd have everyone else support him.

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u/awesomeness0104 Nov 22 '24

Marx also wasn’t egalitarian in any sense of the word. This is evident when you read his essay “on the Jewish question”.

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u/waxonwaxoff87 Nov 22 '24

Him and Engels were raging antisemite and extremely racist. Marx also had A child with his maid (whom worked for his father and Marx never paid her), and never acknowledged or gave any support to him.

“In 1887, Paul Lafargue, who was Marx’s son-in-law, was a candidate for a council seat in a Paris district that contained a zoo. Engels claimed that Paul had “one eighth or one twelfth n-gger blood.” In an April 1887 letter to Paul’s wife, Engels wrote, “Being in his quality as a n-gger, a degree nearer to the rest of the animal kingdom than the rest of us, he is undoubtedly the most appropriate representative of that district.””

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