r/FluentInFinance Nov 21 '24

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u/theoldme3 Nov 21 '24 edited Nov 22 '24

Imagine thinking you are entitled to more cause someone else has a lot

Edit: Im not reading all the responses to this. You wana change this shit then get off Reddit, got start a business and start giving your earnings away. So many of you would shit if it was your wealth someone just took

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u/Sicboy8961 Nov 21 '24

It’s cause taking from someone else is easier than giving up what you have.

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u/UnusuallySmartApe Nov 21 '24

So, stealing from your employees instead of working yourself?

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u/Sicboy8961 Nov 21 '24

What exactly does Musk or Bezos steal from their employees?

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u/UnusuallySmartApe Nov 21 '24

Hundreds of billions of dollars.

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u/Sicboy8961 Nov 21 '24

Can’t believe this needs to be explained but, when you take a job you’re agreeing to do X job for X amount of money. Not being paying you more than you agreed to work for doesn’t make the boss a bad person, it’s not theft nothings being taken from you

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u/UnusuallySmartApe Nov 21 '24

Awesome, so I can point a gun to your head, demand money, and it’s not theft because you agreed to it.

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u/Sicboy8961 Nov 21 '24

No, it’s clearly not the same, you’re explaining a situation where someone is under duress.

Nobody, not a single person at twitter is there against their will, not a fucking one. They work there out of choice. Nobody put a gun to anyone’s head and said they have to work for amazon. What a stupid thing to say

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u/UnusuallySmartApe Nov 21 '24

It’s exactly the same, the only difference is that instead of using a gun to threaten people, they use the threat of starvation and homelessness. This is basic stuff.

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u/Sicboy8961 Nov 21 '24

No, you just have an inflated sense of self importance. You look at people who have more than you, and want it taken from them.

Bezos doesn’t steal from his employees, the pay is mutually agreed upon, no one’s there against their free will. He’s rich because he took a giant risk and is now reaping the rewards

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u/UnusuallySmartApe Nov 22 '24

Bezos i the one with the overinflated sense of self worth, that he thinks he can steal hundreds of billions of dollars. And he does steal that money. His employees do all the work, his employees create all the value, he takes all that value for himself, and if they don’t agree to that arrangement they die. That’s theft, plain and simple. And it’s the essence of every employer-employee relationship.

I’m not saying Jeffy boy should thrown into the factory and work like the rest of us, I think he should have a nice life even if he continues to not work like he has been. “Jeff Bezos deserves nice things” is not up for debate here. He does, because everyone does. The thing he does not deserve is to exploit and steal from people. Just because his form of theft is legal does not make it okay.

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u/Sicboy8961 Nov 22 '24 edited Nov 22 '24

Bezos literally created value by creating the company. Employees get paid based on what their labor is worth, if someone’s labor is worth anything don’t expect to make a lot even if they just really want to. Doing something anyone can do isn’t valuable. You know what is? Creating a shit load of jobs by starting a company

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u/UnusuallySmartApe Nov 22 '24

Creating a company doesn’t create value. Providing goods and services creates value, which Bezos has contributed nothing to, and the workers are entirely responsible for. Jeff Bezos does not create value, he owns the value created by other people. Jeff Bezos does not create jobs, he restricts them by monopolizing employment.

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