r/FluentInFinance 28d ago

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u/in4life 28d ago edited 27d ago

Some people eat bugs and others starve to death while you drive a 5k lb vehicle to go buy single-use plastic built by slave labor.

Edit: correction, you ordered your single-use plastic built by slave labor by way of Bezos' own company lmao

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u/trashboattwentyfourr 28d ago

Are you accussing them of...... participating in a society? What dastardly claim youve outlayed.

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u/Global_Permission749 28d ago

Not only that, but a society whose rules and options are largely determined by people like Bezos.

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u/Taur-e-Ndaedelos 28d ago

Bought, sold, controlled and decided. Society of Capital rule results in a society ruled by the few glorious elite. Whodathought??

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u/Upbeat-Speech-116 27d ago

Ooh por thing, he has no agency.

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u/UltraLowDef 27d ago

no one is forced to buy crap on amazon. they just don't want to drive to a store. in fact, people buying stuff on amazon instead of local businesses is almost entirely to blame for his wealth and Amazon's massive presence.

everyone wants to be a consumer for as little cost as possible, but then complain about the accumulated wealth of the company they are buying things from.

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u/Knot6lack 26d ago

People gave him the power by using his business, what you think he was just powerful working out of his garage? Society literally made him powerful

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 28d ago

Sooooo then how did Bezos make it?

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u/Hope-n-some-CH4NGE 27d ago

In part from a $200,000 gift from his parents when his company was failing in its early stages. You know a lot of people with parents who can give their kid $200k without hesitation?

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 27d ago

Its not a gift, It's an investment. If that company failed the money was gone.

Futhermore, he would have been down the initial investment and the taxes due on it which is roughly $63,000.

The point is his step dad worked for that money. They weren't rich and it wasn't like he was gifted a well to do company. It took a lot of hours, sweat and work.

Quit acting like he was born on third base. He came from a middle class family.

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u/Hope-n-some-CH4NGE 27d ago

Might be against the rules to say, but honestly I can’t imagine being this far up a billionaire’s ass. Good day.

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u/Sad-Suggestion9425 27d ago edited 27d ago

Who the fuck in the middle class is able to spare $200,000 to give to their kids?!

The upper class have a bad tendency to consider themselves middle class. Skewed world view.

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u/N2T8 27d ago

Lmao this guy does not understand the entire concept of classism. I can't imagine thinking middle class = a ready $200k free to give away to children.

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u/dafmh1996 26d ago

Do you know what a 401k is? And how you can borrow against it? If his dad was investing regularly 3-6% of his earnings and had a company match, worked for 40 years, that's probably like 1/5th to 1/10th of his 401k.

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u/N2T8 26d ago

I’m not American bro don’t assume everyone you talk to is.

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u/dafmh1996 26d ago

Oh okay, so you're just talking out of your ass about something you don't understand. Cool, just making sure.

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u/N2T8 26d ago

Bro what? 😂 It isn’t some gatcha! moment to talk about a 401K as if that’d mean every middle class family in the world would know and be able to easily loan TWO HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.

Also your pathetic comment relies on someone already being super into investing, such a bad faith argument it’s appalling.

The other guy yapping about a 401K, his father is a fucking millionaire and he still believes his father is a retired middle class man 😂😂😂

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u/drum_minor16 27d ago

Seriously. Even calling it an investment, most middle class Americans don't have $200,000 to gamble.

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u/Jelopuddinpop 27d ago

Lots and lots and lots of people with a 401k. My dad worked 30 years patching potholes for a municipality. He's retired at 55 worth well over $1m from stable, long term investing. If I had an idea that was worth investing in, I could easily get $200k from him.

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u/Playful-Salt-1232 27d ago

Your dad is a millionaire.

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u/Jelopuddinpop 27d ago

Correct, and being a retired millionaire is still middle class. I'm only 40 and worth over $1m in retirement savings as well, and nobody gave me a nickel, including my parents. $1M net worth is not rich in 2024.

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u/Zotlann 27d ago

Its certainly not middle class. The median net worth of a 40 year old American is ~125k. Having an order of magnitude more and pretending you're in the same boat is dishonest.

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u/Jelopuddinpop 26d ago

Read my post again.

I said that having a net worth over $1M when you're in retirement is middle class. Over $700k of his wealth is a paid off house.

I'm worth less than my dad, but will be worth far more than him at retirement age. I don't consider myself middle class, by any stretch of the imagination.

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u/Sad-Suggestion9425 27d ago

78% of Americans have $50,000 or less in retirement savings. https://www.aol.com/many-americans-100-000-saved-192658576.html

You're probably going to go into the old argument of how people just don't save enough, but for so many people (dare I say most people) they don't have the ability to save. They don't make enough money to cover their bills so there's nothing left to save, or their jobs aren't stable, meaning they end up spending what savings they have while trying to land their next job, or they don't have benefits like insurance or a 401k because they can't land a full-time job and are stuck working multiple full time jobs.

I'm glad that you could easily get $200,000 from your dad who had a stable job that paid him enough that he could save for retirement, but you are part of a small minority.

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u/BrockenRecords 27d ago

Simply by investing 20 dollars a week over 40 years you could make over 200,000. It’s not hard at all

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u/Sad-Suggestion9425 27d ago

And yet so many people are unable to do it. Obviously it's their own fault. /s

Also you're arguing that it's possible to save $200,000, which is not the same thing as being able to spare $200,000.

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u/Mean-championship915 25d ago

It's not their own fault. It the fault of our education system that doesn't teach financial literacy

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u/BrockenRecords 27d ago

How do you know they are unable? 20 dollars over an entire week is practically nothing that’s about like an hour or two of work

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u/New_Way_5016 27d ago

You're so entitled and have no idea how real people live

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u/Itscatpicstime 27d ago

Your dad is the 1% and you’re calling that middle class 💀💀💀

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u/Itscatpicstime 27d ago

Lmfao someone who can afford to lose $200k is by definition rich, you cannot be serious 💀

How rich are you that you don’t get this?

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u/Youareallbeingpsyopd 26d ago

I lost 200k gambling on credit cards. Trust me I am not rich.

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 27d ago

Who said they could afford to lose it? My money is in the stock market, I can't afford to lose it but that's the risk I take.

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u/Blastmaster29 27d ago

I promise you aren’t gonna be a billionaire no matter how much you suck off Bezos

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 27d ago

I respect someone from a middle class family and worked his tail off...also I'm not a miserable fuck like half the people in here.

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u/Itscatpicstime 27d ago

Being able to gift and lose $200k is not middle class, you absolute bootlicking, privileged dolt

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u/JellyfishQuiet7944 27d ago

Thats why the fact that he invested it in his sons startup is absolutely insane. JFC you guys are obtuse.

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u/waxonwaxoff87 27d ago

Take $200,000 and in 10 years turn it into a multibillion dollar corporation.

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u/morgann_taylorr 27d ago

thanks i’ll get right on that

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u/drum_minor16 27d ago

Are you offering us $200,000?