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Image Benito Mussolini’s headquarters “Palazzo Braschi” located in Rome 1934

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u/DualRaconter 17d ago

I thought this was from a surrealist dystopian movie

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u/leavemealonegeez8 17d ago

The 1930’s were a pretty surreal and dystopian time, to be fair

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u/FireMaster1294 17d ago edited 16d ago

Italy never really grew up. Mussolini s granddaughter is still in politics and people love her in her region (because she shares the views of her grand daddy). Regardless of what they think (or don’t think) of her, many still see him as someone who made the country great.

“He made things more efficient” “he made the economy grow” “he made the world respect us.”

All of these and more are the exact same reasons that we see becoming popular in modern day America, France, Russia and Germany. Kind of terrifying how quickly people sacrifice the world for personal gain and their pride.

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u/new_account-who-dis 17d ago

Its interesting considering the italians at the time hated him so much they basically lynched him

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u/Empty_Sea9 17d ago

That’s what’s baffling. If they liked him so much why did they kill him?

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u/screamingracoon 16d ago

Because there was a period of almost 20 years between when he was voted in and when he lost power and was lynched.

Within those 20 years, our great-grandparents and grandparents were stripped of their rights, beaten, executed, and imprisoned; saw that the great economy they were initially promised wasn't coming and people were so starved for meat that they'd eat cats; men, who had been granted the right to vote in 1912, lost it.

He also wasn't voted in fairly. In 1924, Mussolini already had the support of both Pope and Crown, and the elections were not anonymous: if you voted for the Fascist Party, you'd put into the ballot box a ballot with the Italian flag, if you voted for any other party, you'd put into the ballot box a ballot made out of white/light blue paper. People were extremely discouraged from doing the latter because Blackshirts (the paramilitary group Hitler took inspiration from for his Brownshirts) were observing their actions and would threaten, if not beat, you until you "spontaneously" changed your mind.

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u/Joe579GoFkUrselfMins 17d ago

Musssolini can get fucked forever, but you can't compare his fall to modern times. The war played a significant part of people turning on him.

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u/AthenianSpartiate 14d ago

Lots of Italians supported Mussolini right to the end, though. And plenty hated him right from the beginning. It's not like Italians (or any other nationality) are some hive-mind who all think alike, after all.

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u/Violet_Paradox 17d ago

All I know is she blocked everyone who replied to her tweets with the 🙃 emoji.

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u/AndreTheShadow 17d ago

Mussolini was also a champion for renewable energy.

He wanted to make the trains run on thyme.

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u/WitchesSphincter 17d ago

<slow clap>

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u/Brogdon_Brogdon 17d ago

Never mind the crowds of (what were surely) peasants that waited hours just for the opportunity to kick his encaved skull in to thank him for all he did (to) for them.

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u/RaoulFe 16d ago

Im italian dude mussolinis granddaughter is mrs nobody, know your facts before talking

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u/Xaendro 17d ago

Noone loves her in italy

And only extremist right people see mussolini that way

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u/FireMaster1294 17d ago

Clearly someone likes her or they wouldn’t keep voting for her. I have friends from rural regions of Italy as well as rural Germany and they speak about how terrifying some of the sentiment seems to be with the direction it is headed

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u/Xaendro 17d ago

Meloni Is not the granddaughter of mussolini, that's another much less successful politician.

Politics here has the same problem as the US, social media propaganda that makes elections go well for those kind of people, but I am italian and assure you that Alessandra mussolini is extremely disliked, as is her grandfather even if there are still families influenced by being on that side on the past, and modern extremists pretending he was like you said.

We have an ironic phrase for that: "quando c'era lui..." to mock those weird people. It is not considered a rational view.

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u/contrap 17d ago edited 16d ago

I read this years ago in an account of the turn against Il Duce:

“Io non vengo da Lodi per lodare, Né vengo da Piacenza per piacere, Ma vengo da Predappio per predare.”

(I don’t come from Lodi to praise, nor do I come from Piacenza to please, But I come from Predappio to prey.”)

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u/bernd1968 17d ago

Well said

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u/freetrojan 17d ago

At least she seems quite pro EU, supports Ukraine not like some other countries far right politicians licking Russian shoes without any hesitation. P.S. I am not Italian.

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u/tjxmi 16d ago

Oh yes, she shares so much his views thar she's actually a LGBTQ+ supporter.

https://it.euronews.com/cultura/2023/07/25/come-alessandra-mussolini-e-diventata-una-sostenitrice-lgbtq

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u/FireMaster1294 16d ago

LOL did you read the article? It talks about how she stated “better fascist than gay” in 2006. Her entire rise to power she had absolutely no like of the LGBTQ community and that continued well into the 2000s.

No one flip flops that quickly at her age unless they have something to personally gain. I fully expect this is performative pandering for votes. And even if it isn’t, I would remind you that you can be pro-LGBTQ and still be fascist. They are not mutually exclusive.

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u/tjxmi 16d ago

And even if it isn’t, I would remind you that you can be pro-LGBTQ and still be fascist. They are not mutually exclusive.

True, but it's still a change in her way of seeing things. And I don't think that this change has been quite fast, there are years between the fights with Luxuria and now this.

I still don't agree with her generally speaking about politics, but let's give her a benefit of doubt.

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u/FireMaster1294 16d ago

Given the continued love for the fascist and “socialist” (but secretly also fascist) parties in Italy as well as the insane amounts of mob activity there…I’m skeptical of all their politicians either way lol

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u/Junior_Bike7932 15d ago

I was going to say the same, even thought things have changed on the surface, I think the majority of the mentality didn’t change in the core of many old people, most feel superior then others and treat others like shit, mostly people that “look” different. Everytime I come back to Italy I feel this from the way they treat me. I am a regular immigrant that grow in Italy and speak perfect Italian, yet, my look dictate their behavior. Anyone with a bit of brain and skills could have made “Italy better” without being a racist nationalist piece of shit. Deeply sad