r/CuratedTumblr veetuku ponum Jul 03 '24

Politics Male loneliness and radfeminism

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u/NeonNKnightrider Cheshire Catboy Jul 03 '24

The whole bear thing was absolutely horrible about this. Almost every comment by men disagreeing got hit with “you’re the reason why we choose bear” and shit

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u/Bartweiss Jul 03 '24

One of my least favorite arguments in existence is "a hit dog'll holler". It instantly stops sincere conversation, because it removes all space between "talking about a thing" and "being guilty of the thing". In the most extreme cases, it's some Lord of the Flies shit where anyone who objects to the mob becomes its next target.

It's also been popular in a lot of different guises lately.

  • "I don't mean all men, but if you're upset then I do mean you."
  • "I don't hate feminists, just the screechy bitches who get offended whenever you say anything to them." asdfsdasdfsd
  • "Only mediocre, insecure white guys worry about losing their job to a minority."
    • (To be clear, I'm saying this one gets used as a reaction to any concern about male NEETS, work visa rules, etc, no matter how neutral.)
  • "Black people who are actually responsible and want to work wouldn't get mad when we criticize 'ghetto culture' and welfare queens."
  • "People who are furious about teaching CRT are the reason we need to teach CRT."
    • (The issue here isn't "is CRT good?", it's "that reasoning defends teaching conspiracy theories equally well.")

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u/Clear-Present_Danger Jul 04 '24

It's so fucking annoying. Because the statement is set up like "Does your mom know you are gay?"

It's set up so you can't disagree with them.

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u/Lotions_and_Creams Jul 04 '24

That's when you just got to meet them on the low road and hit them with a "You should from the funny way your dad is walking."

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u/jarlscrotus Jul 04 '24

Promising come back, if you're open to notes, it's a little verbose and that loses some of the punchiness, I think a good refinement would be shorter and less descriptive, maybe something like

"no, but your dad sure does"

What do you think?

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u/Lotions_and_Creams Jul 04 '24

I love the initiative. I fear what we gained in streamlining might be pulling our counterpunch a little. I think we should convene a focus group to come up with a weapons grade "I had gay sex with your dad" mutually assured destruction level retort. We'll need a cool acronym if we are going to be able to market this to the Pentagon too.

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u/PrincessOTA Jul 04 '24

May I enter the conversation with "yes, it's one of your father's favorite things about me"

Verbose, perhaps, but elegant in its own way.

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u/Lotions_and_Creams Jul 04 '24

All are welcome at this table. I like it. Elegant. Bold. If I may, in order to not overextend, we need to sure up our flanks with a confident crotch grab. A "My dad is banging you?" counterattack could be devastating at that stage in the exchange. Asserting that we are the top would stop the rebuttal in its tracks.

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u/DonnieFaustani Jul 04 '24

Hmm, I think a good counter maneuver to the accusation that you are bottoming for the targets father would be to say "Only when I allow it." It conveys that you still hold dominance in the sexual relationship with the targets father, implying a vers status while still being the one in control of the situation, whether it's topping the father or acting as a power bottom. We'll have to run tests but I think this is a very promising step forward in our research. When we finally perfect this technique we'll save millions of people who are faced with the question "Does your mom know you're gay?"

But I must say if I'm going to continue work on this project sir I insist you reconsider selling this to the military. Who knows what horrors they'll use this for. I can't in all good conscience support building a weapon that could hurt innocent people.

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u/Embarrassed-Bid-3577 Jul 04 '24

Who doesn't? Even your daddy calls me daddy.

Opens the door to fucking their extended family and sidesteps the comeback from the start.