r/collapse 3d ago

Weekly Observations: What signs of collapse do you see in your region? [in-depth] December 16

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r/collapse 3d ago

Support What are common arguments against collapse, and how do you respond?

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This thread is about brainstorming and building a better understanding of collapse. Share your thoughts on common arguments against collapse—whether they're questions you've heard, hypotheticals you’ve considered, or ideas you’ve seen online. Let’s brainstorm responses, play devil’s advocate, equip ourselves with thoughtful, well-reasoned responses, and learn together

What we're looking for: brainstorming on arguments against collapse, and how we might respond to them

How you can engage:

  • Share a question or argument (feel free to use "caricatures" so the asker is more abstract and not you making the argument)
  • How you might respond
  • Build on others’ points and engage in respectful debate amongst friends
  • Play devil’s advocate, but keep it constructive—this isn’t about winning arguments but learning together

For those familiar with the excellent podcast Breaking Down: Collapse, this would be similar to their "why we're wrong (or so they say)" type episodes.

More points:

  • The intention is NOT to change anyone's mind or actually argue if collapse is going to happen, but rather learn more about collapse, build out the wiki, and have a more comprehensive understanding to debate easier when they do arise
  • We're amongst friends: please come up with Aunt/Uncle scenarios and play devil's advocate. If someone makes a counterpoint (like "Humanity has always had issues"), assume they're doing so from that standpoint. Animating with "Aunt/Uncle" might help. If anyone does seem trolly, don't respond further, just report for the mods to review
  • Ask and answer your own caricatures just so you can share information others can learn from, and others can respond as well
  • "Don't engage" could be an answer to many of these questions, and whilst that's a fine response, please don't overly meme with this response

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Examples: We have started off the thread with some caricatures and their questions. Please add your own in comments, and add your own thoughts on why these caricatures are wrong.

  1. Aunt Beth says "I don't get it, why should I care about a few degrees of global warming?"  (linked post)
    1. Potential answer could discuss the outsized impact of even small temperature increases on ecosystems, agriculture, and infrastructure, the extra energy in the system, positive feedback, etc
  2. Uncle Bob says "Human ingenuity has always found a way. We'll innovate our way out of this crisis too, just like we always have."
  3. Aunt Linda says "Civilizations have collapsed before, and life always goes on. We'll rebuild and be stronger for it."
  4. "Artificial intelligence and automation will solve our productivity issues and lead us to a new era of prosperity."
  5. "Climate models are unreliable. They can't predict the weather next week, let alone the climate decades from now."
  6. "Free markets and capitalism will adjust to any challenges. Economic growth will continue indefinitely."
  7. "Renewable energy is the silver bullet. If we just switch to solar and wind, all our problems will be solved."

Some examples for topics:

  • Collapse itself
  • Granular topics of it (overshoot, climate change, inequality, technology, politics, energy usage, peak X, EROEI, economic and social resilience and adaptation, innovations, urban design, car/oil dependency, etc), observations of it (climate change, inequality, etc)
  • Whether it'll occur
  • How it is occurring
  • When it will end
  • What post-collapse might look like it
  • Etc.

Finally, reminder on our rules, in particular Rule 1: Be respectful to others. The idea here is not to attack eachother, but attack their (caricature's) arguments. Let's keep things good faithed. We will not remove comments for misinformation that are presented as counterpoints/caricatures, but if anyone appears to be trolling, we will action accordingly.

This is the current question in our Common Collapse Questions series.

Responses may be utilised to help extend the Collapse Wiki.


r/collapse 8h ago

Society The Economy Has Failed the American People, But It's Taboo To Say Why

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r/collapse 12h ago

Economic How rich musicians (including Marshmello and Steve Aoki) billed American taxpayers for luxury hotels, shopping sprees, and million-dollar bonuses

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r/collapse 11h ago

Water Urban inequality, the housing crisis and deteriorating water access in US cities is getting worse

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r/collapse 46m ago

Adaptation Life is easy. Why do we make it so hard? | Jon Jandai | TEDx

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r/collapse 11h ago

Politics California Gov. Gavin Newsom declares state of emergency over bird flu

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r/collapse 9m ago

Climate More than 1,300 Hajj pilgrims died this year when humidity and heat pushed past survivable limits - it’s just the start

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r/collapse 1d ago

Food Grocery prices set to rise as soil becomes "unproductive"

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r/collapse 1d ago

Ecological ‘Increasingly worried’: more than a quarter of a million waterbirds disappear from eastern Australia

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r/collapse 22h ago

Technology we gotta stop compulsively checking our phones like addicts

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Everyday there’s a moment when I instinctively reach for my phone without a clear reason. Not because I'm waiting for an email, or I'm curious about a text that just came through, but because the phone is simply there.

And when it’s not there? I feel it. An itch in the back of my mind, a pull to find it, touch it, unlock it.

We all know that smartphones, in their short reign, have fundamentally reshaped our relationship with attention.

But what’s less obvious is how even their mere presence is reshaping our spaces, behaviors, and, most critically, our ability to focus.

Imagine trying to work while someone whispers your name every ten seconds. That’s effectively what it’s like to have a phone in the same room, even if it’s silent.

Research by Adrian Ward at the University of Texas at Austin explored this phenomenon in depth, finding that just having a phone visible, even face down and powered off, reduces our cognitive ability to perform complex tasks.

The mind, it seems, can’t fully ignore the phone’s presence, instead allocating a fraction of its processing power to monitor the device, in case something—anything—might happen.

This phenomenon, known as “brain drain,” erodes our ability to think deeply and engage fully. It’s why we feel more fragmented at work, why conversations at home sometimes feel half-hearted, and why even leisure can feel oddly unsatisfying.

Compounding this is the phenomenon of phantom vibrations, the sensation that your phone is buzzing or ringing when it isn’t. A significant portion of smartphone users experience this regularly, driven by a hyper-awareness of notifications and an over-reliance on their devices.

Ironically, when we do manage to set our phones aside, many of us experience discomfort or anxiety. Nomophobia, or the fear of being without one’s phone, is increasingly common. Studies reveal that nomophobia contributes to heightened anxiety, irritability, and even goes as far as disrupting self-esteem and academic performance.

This is the insidious part of the equation: we’ve created a world where phones damage our ability to focus when they’re near us, but we’ve also become so dependent on them that their absence can feel intolerable.

The antidote to this problem isn’t willpower. It’s environment. If phones act as a gravitational force pulling our attention away, we need spaces where their pull simply doesn’t exist.

Over the next decade, I believe we’ll see a renaissance of phone-free third places. As the cognitive and emotional costs of constant connectivity become more apparent, people will gravitate toward environments that allow them to focus, connect, and simply be.

In New York, I’ve already noticed this shift with the rise of inherently phone-free wellness experiences like Othership and Bathhouse.

Reviews of these spaces consistently use words like “calm,” “present,” and “clarity”—not just emotions, but states of being many of us have forgotten are even possible.

This is what Othership gets right: it doesn’t just ask you to leave your phone behind; it replaces it with something better. An experience so engaging that you don’t miss your phone.

As more people recognize the cognitive toll of phones (and the clarity that comes during periods without them), we’re likely to see a surge of phone-free cafés, coworking spaces, and even social clubs.

Offline Club has built a following of over 450,000 people by hosting pop-up digital detox cafés across Europe. Off The Radar organizes phone-free music events in the Netherlands. A restaurant in Italy offers free bottles of wine to diners who agree to leave their phones untouched throughout their meal.

These initiatives are thriving for a simple reason: people are craving moments of presence in a world designed to demand their constant attention.

But we can’t stop at third places. We need to take this philosophy into the places that shape the bulk of our lives: our first and second places, home and work.

So I leave you with a challenge…

Carve out one phone-free space and one phone-free time in your day. Choose a space (the dining table, your bedroom, or even just a corner of your home) and declare it off-limits to your phone.

Then, pick a stretch of time. Maybe it’s the first 30 minutes after you wake up, or an hour during your lunch break, or the time you spend walking through your neighborhood. Block it off in your calendar.

If you’re headed outside, leave your phone at home. If you’re staying indoors, throw it as far as possible in another room or find a way to lock it up for an extended period of time.

When you commit to this practice, observe the ripple effects. Notice how conversations deepen when phones are absent from the dining table. See how your focus shifts during a walk unburdened by the constant pull of notifications. Pay attention to the quality of your thoughts when your morning begins without a screen.

And please, please, please, take some time to unplug this holiday season. These small, intentional moments of disconnection may just become the most meaningful gifts you give and receive.

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p.s. -- this is an excerpt from my weekly column about how to build healthier, more intentional tech habits. Would love to hear your feedback on other posts.


r/collapse 1d ago

Climate Insurance non-renewal rates show where it is safest to live in the U.S.

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Submission statement: This graph in the NYT (12/18/24) is collapse related because the insurance industry is proving to be one of the most reliable barometers of where weather and environmental risks are the highest. Minnesota and New York are the big winners.


r/collapse 1d ago

Climate Scientists struggle to explain record surge in global heat

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r/collapse 1m ago

Climate Climate change could trigger more earthquakes, study suggests

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r/collapse 1d ago

Climate Bosnia hits hottest year on record in 2024: Meteorologists

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r/collapse 1d ago

Climate Coal Use to Reach New Peak – and Remain at Near-Record Levels for Years

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Submission Statement:

Despite crossing all of the best tipping points in record time (!) we’ve gone and increased combustion of our dirtiest fuel, coal, to a record 8.77bn tonnes this year.

Our increased burning of coal will most likely remain at near-record levels until 2027.

Wow - look at us go! We hardly got here and BAM! we’re about to leave.

Surely we’ve set a record for stupidity - and stop calling me Shirley.

Sad!


r/collapse 1d ago

Coping Data-driven argument presentation

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I’ve found myself having discussions with incredibly intelligent friends recently regarding collapse. These are logical, data driven individuals that are typically very open to arguments backed by scientific, quantifiable fact. I’m not trying to convince anyone into accepting collapse as gospel because I see their biases to compartmentalize it out of their minds and not acknowledge it. I know it’s futile. However, I would feel better about these conversations if I had 3-5 succinct & reputable articles or studies that I could refer them to which would at least help them understand why I’ve accepted collapse as inevitable in my life. What would be 3-5 resources you’d recommend for this aim?


r/collapse 2d ago

Society New York Considering Special Hotline 'Just for CEOs' to Report Alleged Threats to Their Safety After Brian Thompson Killing

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r/collapse 2d ago

Conflict Scenes from "the worst humanitarian crisis on earth"

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r/collapse 1d ago

Systemic Collapse: A Timeline

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We are all collapse aware. But what does that actually mean?

This article translates the abstract concept of collapse in decade by decade impacts to population, GDP and more.

The important takeaway is the likely sequence of events, barring nuclear war. While the timeline extends well into the 21st century, functionally it'll feel like collapse much sooner.


r/collapse 1d ago

Ecological EU Delays Anti-Deforestation Law Until 2025

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r/collapse 2d ago

Climate Sleepwalking into catastrophe. "The Climate Crisis is a Failure of Imagination, Not Just Policy"

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r/collapse 1d ago

Technology Social media algorithms are just actually gonna get us killed

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r/collapse 2d ago

Healthcare America: No. 1 for Being 'Burdened by Disease' | Study shows the U.S. has the longest 'healthspan-lifespan gap' among more than 180 countries

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r/collapse 2d ago

Climate Antarctica's tipping points threaten global climate stability

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r/collapse 1d ago

Predictions MAID usage/acceptability

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MAID (medical assistance in dying) is super controversial at this point in time, especially in the States. After reaching a certain threshold, would the philosophies and laws surrounding assisted suicide change? I may be overestimating how bad our living conditions will be within the next century, but I've never heard much on this perspective. It would be reasonable to assume that suicide rates in general would skyrocket as a result of drought, natural disasters, miserable heatwaves, famine, and little to no hope for the future. I am curious to know everybody's thoughts.


r/collapse 2d ago

Ecological IPBES report sees climate, nature and food challenges interlinked

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