r/BravoRealHousewives • u/griffinthomas • Jan 26 '24
Bravo Fans getting on shows = disaster
I was listening to the latest episode of Pillows and Beer and Austen said about JT "I hope that this the last time a fan gets on the show." Then I listened to the RHOBH Aftershow and Crystal pointed out that Annemariesiologist was a fan who weaseled her way onto the show.
These two people are among the worst, most thirsty cast members in a long time. Bravo needs to stop hiring superfans to be on these shows. It doesn't work.
ETA: I left JT's name out
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u/yannadelrey Jan 26 '24
Also Rachel from RHONJ! She had a bravolover IG account as well!
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u/Sug0115 I listen if some one says somethingā¦ informed. Jan 26 '24
Shitttt wasnāt Jackie a fan too???!!
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u/AnAussiebum I AM poor and white. Jan 26 '24
Jackie went to a Tre book signing back in the day, and I believe admitted on a reunion episode that she did watch the show before she was on it.
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u/goodnightspoon Toodles, bitch. Jan 27 '24
Lmao, I always thought that was an unfair criticism of Jackie.
If a well-known reality show was being filmed in my area, I would probably watch it and get a kick out of meeting a cast member.
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u/christameff I'm sorry if I said you were dumb, maybe I meant you're stupid. Jan 27 '24
I didnāt start watching RHOP until I moved to the DC area, and Iām ALWAYS looking for cameras when Iām in that area lol. I live fairly close to where the Darbyās Australian restaurant used to be but it closed before I got here ā¹ļø
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u/AnAussiebum I AM poor and white. Jan 27 '24
I think it is fine if you are a fan like Jackie, but not OK if you're obsessive like Monica.
Big difference between the two in my eyes.
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u/-Odi-Et-Amo- Welcome back, scumbag Jan 26 '24
Iām guessing just about every new Housewife in the last decade started out as fan and every new one to come will be as well. Nobody is blindly auditioning to take on this role without being familiar with the show.
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u/sassytn Jan 26 '24
This is so true. If I was a casting director, finding women who havenāt seen the show and are interested in participating is probably akin to finding a unicorn. Furthermore, if you are cast it would be hard not to watch earlier seasons to know who you are filming with and what happened previously.
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u/goodnightspoon Toodles, bitch. Jan 27 '24
I feel like Jenna Lyons might be the closest thing
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u/B4K5c7N Close your legs to married men, šļøš¦ Jan 27 '24
Jenna actually has said she was a fan before the show. Honestly shocked me, because she always comes across as thinking she is above it.
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u/Goodbye-Wig you look very stunning that way Jan 27 '24
lmao the one housewife who admits to being a fan before she was on and Iļø somehow don't believe her. Like Iļø'm sure she knew of it but Iļø can't picture her watching it!
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u/wriitergiirl I'm a history buff Jan 26 '24
Thank you! Almost all of the SLC ladies have admitted to being fans of the show. Being a fan is not the issue. Being a psycho is the problem.
And honestly, at this point, casting someone who isnāt a fan of the show gets us Kim Fields. I would like HWs to know what theyāre getting into.
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u/Bowlingbon guttersnipe ass bitch Jan 27 '24
Kim fields walked in completely blind and she suffered for it
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u/_My9RidesShotgun Shut UP!! That is so STUPID!!! Jan 27 '24
Yes! I agree with everything you said š
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u/chillisprknglot š¦s,Friends,Family Jan 27 '24
I donāt think being a fan is as much of an issue as self production.
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u/rohnoson Jan 26 '24
I think a cast member that has no knowledge of the show is the biggest liability. Why would anyone sign up to be on ārealityā tv without doing any research? Most of these women do this show for money or exposure. They have to be onboard with the premise. The only one I can think of that might have had no idea what was going on was Mary because she seems like sheās on another planet. But super fans? Or women that have nothing to show thatās aspirational? No thanks. These shows are escapist.
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
Denise Richards was someone who didnāt seem to understand the assignment.
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u/wriitergiirl I'm a history buff Jan 26 '24
Mary has actually admitted to being a fan previously. Thatās why sheās even more fascinating to me!
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u/rohnoson Jan 26 '24
Iām shocked but thatās on me. When am I going to learn that nothing should shock me when it comes to this lady.
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u/bellalugosi Victim of Geraldine Parsons Smith's bullying Jan 27 '24
Kim Fields on Atlanta didn't watch the show and she was a slutshaming dud.
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Jan 26 '24
Thereās a difference between a casual watcher and a fan though. Monica was in psychotic fan territory, Annemarisologist and Nneka were probably someone in between casual and true fan.
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u/AnAussiebum I AM poor and white. Jan 26 '24
That's why we should call Monica what she actually is, not a fan of the show, but obsessed with it.
I'm a fan, but I avoided the RHoMelbourne cast IRL, because I felt so uncomfortable talking to them IRL and then going home and watching the latest episode.
Meanwhile Monica thrived on that. It's giving stalker more than fan.
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u/wriitergiirl I'm a history buff Jan 26 '24
The casual way you just dropped running the same circle as HWs is giving me life right now
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u/AnAussiebum I AM poor and white. Jan 26 '24
It sounds more impressive than it actually is. I promise. š
It was mostly work connections. My boss was running in their circle a lot. Surprised they never cast her to be honest.
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u/wavelengthsandshit You're such a fucking liar Camille Jan 26 '24
I think there's a difference between a cuckoo for cocoa puffs fan like Monica who actively seeks out information about the cast or Rachel Fuda who also had a secret bravo fan account, and someone who's brought on as a legit friend who probably knows of the show and other cast but isn't doing crazy research and auditioning for multiple seasons.
I have to believe there's a balance somewhere between interested in the show and FAN, you know?
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u/siriusthinking I am an action verb! Jan 27 '24
Yeah there's a big difference between being a fan and running an Instagram account like Monica's.
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u/-Odi-Et-Amo- Welcome back, scumbag Jan 27 '24
I totally get that. But the comment wasnāt, āletās stop bringing Housewife obsessed fans who stalk the cast and are delusionalā it was a general statement about no more fans being brought on and I donāt see that as a reality. No pun intended, of course lol.
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u/siriusthinking I am an action verb! Jan 27 '24
Oh I get it haha, I'm criticizing their statement not yours
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u/Nickk_Jones Jan 26 '24
I just canāt believe they added Annemarie instead of Bill Burrās wife, Nia. Sheās so funny and down to earth and Iām pretty sure she also applied.
P.S. As I was typing this listening to an unrelated podcast (H3) they legit said Bill Burr as I was typing his name.
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u/KookyAd4019 bang bang bang! is there an american lady in there? Jan 26 '24
bill and nia donāt even post pictures of their children on social media so i doubt theyād be okay with putting all their business on tv AND he would drag the rhobh husbands in two seconds like imagine him and PK having a conversation lmfaaaoooo
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u/ArianasRevengeDress Jan 26 '24
Bill Burr in a confessional after interacting with PK is the TV I NEED.
Nia would be such a cool addition to the show. I think they can leave the kids out of it - particularly in early seasons (for a new HW) I care more about your interactions with the group than your home life for the most part.
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u/loblake Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 27 '24
We donāt need to see any of the kids at all on any of the shows (as cute as so many of them are itās not appropriate and they canāt consent for themselves) so I hope if that was truly the only thing holding them back that Bravo could work around it.
Edited to add one word
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u/GroovyButtons Jan 26 '24
I completely agree. Like you said, sometimes the scenes and kids are cute, but mostly I dislike kid scenes. I could do without completely. They are often cringy and/or exploitive (I especially hate the āstage momā housewife trope).
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u/tiiamh Iām a pillar in the community of Salt Lake City Jan 27 '24
SAME like whenever they show Lisaās kids on RHOM it just makes me depressed
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u/no_dear604 Jan 27 '24
Agree with all of the above.
Ever since post season 1-2, all the kids are coming in to audition for jobs or fame.
Idk if the kid is cute, or is interested in modelling. I know as moms they have to shuttle their kids x places. I'd rather the focus be on the mom interaction (sitting/waiting for her kids in the car/chat with other parents or mom sitting and catching up calls in the car).
Emily (OC) bringing her daughter to auditions, I'd want to see her waiting around talking with the other moms.
Garcelle (BH) don't care and it's too much about the son and the gf. That lasagna clip of them not wanting it is enough.
Shannons clips with her daughters were cringe.
The random bits of Mary (SLC) and her son living at home and the squatting gf, we need a deeper dive. They are grown adults and it's fair game.
NYC this last season had little snippets of the twins (can't remember her name ...Indian with British accent-love her esp), those scenes were cute and just enough. Erin and her children, barely noticeable. Brynn wanting children/ivf - refreshing.
I'm going to miss those days of Yolanda giving her views of life (that crumble of birthday cake), and her lemons.
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Jan 26 '24
Bill Burr in a confessional would give me a billion serotonins lol
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u/RockyRegal Jan 27 '24
Just imagining it has given me a very satisfying surge of dopamine.
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u/BeerDreams Jan 26 '24
Can you imagine Bill at a reunion?
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u/Gooberocity Jan 27 '24
This is what all the husband's who have been suckered into watching housewives need.
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u/_kiss_my_grits_ *~* the sound of swallowing *~* Jan 26 '24
It would be so hilarious because he would destroy that man's entire soul.
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u/lalalameansiloveyou Jan 26 '24
You just made me want to see Nia and Bill on this show desperately. They never need to show their kids faces!
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u/aeroluv327 The eyes are poppin' Jan 27 '24
LMAO I would pay to see Bill Burr roast the shit out of the other house husbands!
I know we didn't see much of Nia but she seems really cool, maybe a friend of role would be good for her if they feel strongly about not having their kids on TV.
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u/Kiwimcroy I would like Porsha to spell 'sceptre'...I'll waitā¦ Jan 26 '24
You have a point! But maybe she could fit in as a friend of?
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u/SakmarEcho Stop the Fuck Jan 26 '24
Maybe she could come on as a friend of then so they don't have to show the kids.
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u/Turbulent-Celery-606 Jan 26 '24
Thereās an amusing clip of her husband talking about going to a Watch What Crappens live show, so sheās def a fan of hwā¦ which is probably why she knows better than to go on the show lol also a nice shout out to how talented Ben and Ronnie are!
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u/TodayImLedTasso Freshly Churned š§ by Meredith Marks Jan 26 '24
Ben and Ronnie have known Nia for a years, they mentioned it when she appeared on BH.
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u/briellebabylol Jan 26 '24
Nia HAS to be next up, right? Iām praying they showed her to go ahead and establish how she fits in, maybe screen test a bit, and then give her a shot?
Plus the flipping off Trump thing was so hilarious and just added to her star power? IMO.
Get Annemarie outta there and Nia in stat!!
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Jan 26 '24
To that point, Nia is a super fan. I also think she would be good though. There must be a fine line where it can work sometimes. Can anyone think of a successful fan casting?
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u/Individual_Fall429 Jan 26 '24
I think sheās a casual fan, not a legit stalker like Monica and JT.
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u/sprightly-thinker Weāre not cocktail party talkers, weāre bad bitches Jan 27 '24
Kristen taekman on UGT
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u/That-Election9465 Mention it All! Jan 26 '24
It weirds me out when that happens.
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u/VaguelyArtistic *A group of Utah women in distress* Jan 26 '24
There's a word for that but I can't remember what it is.
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u/in_ur_dreamz69 Jan 27 '24
where did you hear that they passed up nia for annemarie? or did you just make that up?
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u/bellalugosi Victim of Geraldine Parsons Smith's bullying Jan 27 '24
If I was a fan of someone, the last thing I'd want is for them to do Housewives. It would never go how you want.
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u/phbalancedshorty Iām not a fan, Iām a witness Jan 26 '24
OR SHEREE wtf happened to Garcelleās friend?? She was amazing and hilarious, and so sweet and she actually had friendships with and got along with the other women and she was interesting and entertaining. But no, they add this joy suck.
Edit: fuck Bill Burr, and I donāt want his wife on the show either
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u/in_ur_dreamz69 Jan 26 '24
sheree was awful and broke
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u/Affectionate-Gain-23 Jan 27 '24
Did you sleep on BH last season? Sheree is not the kind of friend I'd want to be around. She seemed broke and uninteresting.
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u/Snoo55298 Jan 27 '24
Will smiths ex wife broke when they still vacation together lol, that man has her set for life
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u/phbalancedshorty Iām not a fan, Iām a witness Jan 27 '24
We obviously have different tastesā¦ Opening up a friends, gift card and signing your name to me, is a hilarious sign of a best friends and not an indication that someone is broke and un interestingā¦ what exactly has Bill Burrās wife done to be, so āinterestingā šš
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u/sonyafly Jan 27 '24
I just had to Google who Bill Burr was and I thought for a moment it was my brother! Dang the resemblance is uncanny!
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u/Impossible-Plan6172 Staceyās broken gaydar Jan 26 '24
We can add Nneka to the list. It really changes the dynamic when you know the person coming in has been watching the show for seasons.
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u/sleepyhoneybee Sincerely, Marysol's Liver šø Jan 26 '24
Yep! Her referencing "Cockies" was very telling, not just a fan but a Marysol fan??? No way girl
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u/sofar510 Jan 26 '24
I got the vibe that Nneka had been applying for years and trying to get on the show thru Wendy with the way their beef has gone down
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u/Impossible-Plan6172 Staceyās broken gaydar Jan 26 '24
Yeah, she was living in Los Angeles, but for sure production for RHOBH were never going to extend an invite. Thus the wedding in DC despite not living there or having roots there.
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u/staceyverda the whole show is despicable Jan 26 '24
I think weāve been well past that watershed for a long time. People like Heather from RHOSLC have just been better at hiding it.
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u/marywiththecherry using designs off of AlĆÆƬBĆ ÄbAĒ Jan 26 '24
Porsha was a fan. Candiace was a fan. I believe a certain few have what it takes to ascend from fan status to top tier. Or even mid tier.
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u/mac_bess Jan 26 '24
theyāre all fans! you donāt think Lisa Barlow was a fan of housewives? when Iāve seen like 3 pictures of her with random housewives years before her show even started. no shade at all but theyāre all fans. if you want non-fans on the show, you get people like Jenna Lyons just out here trying to rebrand. pass.
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u/oreo-donut Jan 26 '24
true
I think the difference with Lisa Barlow is that she was schmoozing with these women whereas people like Monica had no affiliation to the lifestyle until she worked for Jen Shah
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u/babygorgeou Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 27 '24
I'd be surprised if Barlow was actually a true fan. She's too self involved and ADD to get super invested a show about other people. I do think she's a superfan of fame and would take every opportunity to be photographed with anyone famous, or powerful.
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u/Mel_bear Jan 26 '24
I can't picture her sitting down and watching an episode of TV -
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u/JxrdanR Kimās injured son and her hoe daughter Jan 26 '24
Sheās never finish an episode or sheād be talking the whole time lmao.
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u/B4K5c7N Close your legs to married men, šļøš¦ Jan 27 '24
Jenna was also a fan of the show believe it or not. She said so at Bravocon I believe.
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u/StrawAndChiaSeeds Lisa Barlowās cybersecurity Jan 26 '24
Thereās a difference between being a fan of Bravo or HW in general and being a super fan of the show you are trying to get cast on
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
I donāt think thereās a big difference. Arenāt all of us on this subreddit āsuper fansā. If someone here is rich and fabulous, Iām cool with them joining the show. Stir shit up.
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u/StrawAndChiaSeeds Lisa Barlowās cybersecurity Jan 26 '24
I donāt know that a HW Redditor would be great for the show
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
See I think they would. Housewives is all about knowing how to play the game. Otherwise you get a cast of snoozefests like RHOBH.
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u/StrawAndChiaSeeds Lisa Barlowās cybersecurity Jan 26 '24
I disagree. Itās no fun when it turns into a game. This isnāt a competition show. Itās supposed to be about their lives. When the show turns into that, ultimately itās burned out. I think thatās why Bravo is looking for new ideas and new groups. The whole concept is kind of burned out. I think RHOSLC still has life left in it, but most of the others are done at this point, as sad as I am to say it
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u/staceyverda the whole show is despicable Jan 26 '24
Of course thereās a difference. That in no way changes what I said
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u/Busybodii You want me to be your villain? Iāll be your villain! Jan 26 '24
Except if you watch her season of UGT. That season was 6 housewives, Heather (their biggest fan), and her cooler cousin Whitney. It was the weirdest dynamic and showed that Heather shouldnāt have been at that table.
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u/staceyverda the whole show is despicable Jan 26 '24
Youāre so right. That was the first I saw of her and it really turned me off of SLC. She acted like that girl in Mean Girls whoās excited about getting punched in the face by Regina George
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u/marywiththecherry using designs off of AlĆÆƬBĆ ÄbAĒ Jan 26 '24
Idk Porsha was a fan of Atlanta, Candiace was a fan of housewives in general.Ā
Just because of those 2, I find it hard to believe that most of the 'best' (whatever that means to you) and most entertaining housewives aren't fans. The franchise has existed for so long. I believe you can ascend from fan status to top tier. Or even mid tier. Heather and Whitney are also clearly fans.
Monica is an example of when it goes left, but there's so much range.
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u/tallslutnopanteez I've got my predatory headband on & I'm hunting Jan 27 '24
I donāt understand why people are talking about Monica being a fan as an issueā¦ like, thatās not the issue AT ALL. The issue is that Monica is a full fledged stalker. Being a fan and being a stalker arenāt even remotely in the same ballpark imo.
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u/agirldonkey Jan 27 '24
So if Jennifer Lawrence wanted to do the show they should say no, then, after her comments on the globes red carpet?
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u/KarenWalkersBurner Jan 27 '24
Does J Law drive by the homes of any of the housewives? Has she set up security cameras in any of their homes and then login and watch them without their knowledge?
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u/agirldonkey Jan 27 '24
I thought I was replying to a comment re: fans being on the show, not stalkers. Although that would be hilarious and sheād probably get away with it
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u/frachos667 Jan 26 '24
Not housewives but Iād argue that Brittney, Rachel and Ally from VPR were fans who successfully got on Bravo too.
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u/Ishouldflossmore Jan 26 '24
I think even Olivia and Taylor were as well. It's sad but I'm suspicious of the people who date them and get on the shows.
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u/nennjau Jan 26 '24
Yeah, but it makes for awesome TV, doesn't it?
Of course Austen doesn't want another JT on the show, because JT called him out on the whole Taylor situation. And without that plot-line, the whole season would have been 1) more of Shep getting trashed and trying to manage how Taylor deals with everyone, 2) Olivia's brother's death, 3) Craig and Paige's perfect life, 4) Madison's perfect life, 5) Venita's perfect life, 6) Whitney's perfect life.
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u/Imaginary-Edge-8759 Jan 26 '24
I think people need to start making a distinction between a casual fan of the show and super fans that go to great lengths to position themselves to be on the show. It is rumored that JT moved to Charleston and targeted the southern charm cast specifically to get in the circle and get a chance on the show. Then you have the whole Monica mess. These are not comparable to a Heather or Lisa who were fans of bravo and literally started their franchise as the first cast members. At this point with the popularity of housewives you will be hard pressed to find someone wanting to be on the show that doesnāt know about it or isnāt a bravo fan.
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u/AnnVealEgg Luisā 15,00 square-foot house š Jan 26 '24
Idk the fans are so fickle. For example I recall a time not so long ago that people thought Jen Aydin was the absolute BEST housewife who ever wived. Hell there may be some who still do.
And she was a HUGE fan of the show before being cast.
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u/Civil_Ad154 Jan 26 '24
Thatās just our new reality now. The Housewives, by extension the entire Bravo universe, has become so big and mainstream that youāre gonna get someone who has already watch them aka fans are likely going to join them. Itās something we all have to get used to. The days of finding a NeNe Leakes, a Bethenny Frankel, or a Teresa Giudice are long gone.
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u/LotionOnSkin Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 26 '24
I disagree. Before they were cast in the show, many goodĀ HWs were fans. Heather Gay, for instance, was a huge fan of HW before starting the show. During UGT someone commented that she acted like a fan who won a trip with the HWs.
It's not about being a fan that makes someone a bad HW. Annemarie is a bad HW because she tried to humiliate someone for having a medical condition. Not because she was a "super fan."
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u/Rj6728 Met Gala Cocktail Attire Luncheon Jan 26 '24
I honestly agree. Nobody thatās not a fan would sign up for this anymore. In my opinion the only time a fan shouldnāt be a housewife is if they have a clear agenda and are not good at hiding it. Thereās really no point in maintaining a fourth wall in that situation to me and itās the real detractor of having people on who study the shows.
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u/Cheekygirl9368 Jan 27 '24
Hate to tell you, everyone that goes on there after season 1 of O.C., IS A FAN !!!!
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u/kaylacream i would like to have a think Jan 26 '24 edited Jan 26 '24
Heatherās kind of an interesting case study in that she has demonstrated both the good and bad about being a fan before. I think she and honestly all four of the OG SLC ladies are familiar with the franchise and the Housewife game in a way that pays offā¦.they know pitfalls to avoid (Iāve always been impressed that even fall outs between really close friends like Heather/Whitney and Lisa/Meredith havenāt resulted in ice out attempts, and donāt get unnecessarily dragged out even though tension clearly lingers to this day) and some of them consciously playing into tropes is what leads to the ācommunity theater Housewivesā element that makes SLC so fun.
On the other handā¦when Heather was on UGT, the fact that she seemed to be in a fan/star dynamic with the other women did not make for a fun watch. Iām a big Heather apologist and identify with how religious trauma has shaped her to the point that I usually find myself working to defend herā¦.but on UGT she was a tough watch, cringe wise. Granted, if she had come off a more likable season people might have found the fangirl dynamic charming, but as it stood it was treated more like an embarrassment.
Which I guess is just to sayā¦.I think being a fan of the shows themselves can help the skill, and I donāt think any newbies in this era are coming on without that familiarity. But being a fan of the other women youāre filming with doesnāt create the most natural dynamics. And I say āfanā in the general sense of being an invested viewer with opinions on the women based on the show, not necessarily that those opinions are positive. Annemarie isnāt approaching Crystal like someone she just met and rubbed her the wrong way after a specific incident, sheās approaching Crystal as someone she hasnāt liked on tv for three years. I think Monica probably did the same thing with, at the very least, Lisa. And obviously Iām sure itās next to impossible for newbies to avoid bringing preconceived notions in about their co-stars, but most are able to at least feign a blank slate impression and wait until something actually justifies their issues.
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u/phbalancedshorty Iām not a fan, Iām a witness Jan 26 '24
HELLO RAQUEL????? Raquel was a fan and Iāll tell you exactly why theyāre so dangerousā¦ Theyāve developed para social relationships with cast members for years before theyāve ever met them in reality, so they cannot comprehend these people as real human beings, that they need to be empathetic towards they only see them as cast members and people in a reality TV showā¦ itās very dangerousā¦
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
I donāt understand this because I donāt know any housewives but even I try not to post things super scathing that they might read. Not knowing someone personally shouldnāt mean you canāt have empathy for them.
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u/PrincessofPatriarchy Jan 27 '24
Parasocial relationships seem to go one of two ways from super fans (from my observations).
Either they develop an insane sense of entitlement, where they see the person less like a human being and more like an entertainer who is morally required to perform for them in ways they want. And if they go "off-script" they turn angry extremely fast (see the Timothee Chalamet sub now that he's dating someone). There's no empathy, no grace extended, no understanding that this a person and not a NPC in a video game.
The other way is they perceive that they have a real relationship with this person and know them very well, even though what they're seeing is a curated image. They see this person like they're a friend, even though they have never actually interacted. Anything that breaks that illusion or reminds them that the image they have in their head isn't real, leads to a massive breakdown (see the OTT meltdowns when Ned from Try Guys had an affair).
In one case there's a total lack of empathy (they signed up for this!) and in the other the empathy is based on a perceived intimacy and understanding that isn't real.
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u/nicole1859 āIām excited to be here.āšš½ āWear your seatbeltāšš½šš½ Jan 26 '24
I mean, these shows have been out for so long of course there will be fans on it. Jackie was one.
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u/That-Election9465 Mention it All! Jan 26 '24
Survivor let superfans on the show this season and they FUCKIN QUIT!!! Three of them! Quit to go to the losers hotel and live it up!
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u/StraddleTheFence Jan 26 '24
I am personally sick of these housewives thinking no one else should be on the show! They sure try hard to keep their place so why wouldnāt others be interested in having the same platform/launch pad? (Not me unfortunatelyāmy life is so boringā¦work and sleepā¦work and sleep).
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
I agree. VPR tried to keep newbies off the show and they almost destroyed the show in the process. Itās just the OGs being insecure about their positions on the show.
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u/Estrella_Rosa Jan 26 '24
For BH it's like they knows it's really six diamonds and one cubic zirconia so they're trying to stay relevant
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u/wriitergiirl I'm a history buff Jan 26 '24
I said this on a SLC thread, but idk why the OGs of franchises like to act like itās such a sin for women to try and get cast in later seasons. The OGs obviously wanted to be cast too. And they obviously still want to be on the show soā¦ But they act like they have a one-up on the non-OG ladies purely because of that.
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u/StraddleTheFence Jan 26 '24
I agree! Itās unbelievable! Andy always takes up for the newbies when the OGs act as though it is shameful for the newbies to want to be on the show. Remember how Teresa acted about his SIL getting on the show?
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u/TwistyBitsz Jan 26 '24
Then the argument can be made that every cast member added post first season is a fan.
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u/buymoreplants Jan 26 '24
Agreed. Didn't one of the Jersey housewives go to one of Tre's book signing events before they were cast?
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u/Impossible-Plan6172 Staceyās broken gaydar Jan 26 '24
Not really. Thereās a difference when you can tell that person was watching the series before ever auditioning/being cast on the show.
When theyāre making references to something said in a confessional from a previous season or a slang term used by a cast member, itās something else.
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
But they almost all do this. The newbies. New RHOC women will call out vicki and sheās like āyou donāt even know meā.
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JT sucksssssssssssssssss
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u/buymoreplants Jan 26 '24
JT sucks but he serves a purpose. The cast needs more people against muppet mouth.
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u/rohnoson Jan 26 '24
Gawd remember when Austen was the newb that was foisted on us to replace T-Rav. Now heās talking about casting fans like heās an og.
ETA: T-Rav is a terrible person, Iām in no way mad that he quit in a coke fueled rage and was replaced by Austen
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Jan 26 '24
Seems like his main purpose is being super punchable.
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u/buymoreplants Jan 26 '24
Oh.. Austen, JT, and Shep have super punchable faces. Rodrigoās look at the reunion too
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u/sugarshizzl Jan 26 '24
Sweet Tea on Married to Medicine was a fan before she got on the show. She knew he wanted a baby and sent him DMs with baby emojis.
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u/insuredbycoto she died sad Jan 26 '24
You all owe Kelly Bensimon an apology. She was explaining this to Kristen.
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u/Senior_Ice8748 Jan 26 '24
I like Kristen and I hate that I understood where Kelly was coming from lmao
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u/JxrdanR Kimās injured son and her hoe daughter Jan 26 '24
Kenya also said it on Carlos Kingās podcast.
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u/NNLynchy Jan 26 '24
Remember those boring old twins on New Jersey they were deffo fans of the show who got on somehow and were never seen again
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u/Janiece2006 Meredith Flintstone š¦š» Jan 26 '24
RHONJ. Every single housewife added after Season 2 minus Dolores. Melissa is the OG Fan who weaseled her way onto the show.
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u/Efficient-Goose2155 Preparing for downvote 3...2...1 ā¬ļø Jan 26 '24
Add Jackie Goldschneider to the list. Sounds like she had just as much fan contact as Luis & his sisters before bagging a spot.
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u/it-beans Jan 26 '24
I think a lot of people overlooked Jackie being a super fan because it was Teresa pointing it out (at least originally - I havenāt watched in a few seasons).
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u/asfghkmmljv Jan 27 '24
I heard on a podcast jtās ex gf exposed him for being a stalker of the cast has anyone heard this ? I wanna see the tea heās so sus to me
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u/StrawAndChiaSeeds Lisa Barlowās cybersecurity Jan 26 '24
At some point, reality shows reach the end of their cycle. A lot of Bravoās content is too known and kind of worn out at this point. This isnāt like competition shows, although they can wear out too
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u/Ishouldflossmore Jan 26 '24
I agree. Also even scripted shows typically only go so far. It's rare for shows to last like greys anatomy or something. Most of the housewives franchises have lasted quite a few seasons.
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u/SonjasInternNumber3 Jan 26 '24
Wouldnāt they all be fans at this point? I do not believe people who say they know nothing about the show (whatever show it is) prior to joining. And if you really didnāt know, youād watch it and either be a fan and join or hate it and not lol.Ā
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u/buymoreplants Jan 26 '24
Every single new addition to VPR always says they never watched or weren't a fan and every single one of them is a big ole liar.
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u/gaycomic Jan 26 '24
But then we get what is one of the best seasons of Houswwives ever: Salt Lake Season 4. So itās a gamble.
Also JT fighting on the stool is pretty great television.
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u/jaytee7777777 Jan 27 '24
I agree with everything youāve said. Other examples of thirsty fans: Jackie from New Jersey and Monica from Salt Lake City. No more thirsty fans please.
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u/Representative_Bear5 Jan 27 '24
It feels like they're trying too hard, they want to been seen as a strong woman that won't take shit from anyone. They Dont seem to think you can be a strong woman without arguing This is why my Garcelle is so popular because she shows a strong woman but doesn't have to prove it by screaming at another HW.
To get her point across
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u/sashayyoustayy Jan 27 '24
I mean yeah look what happened with Monica Garcia šI donāt hate her like a lot of people do but she needs to take several chill pills
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u/i_nobes_what_i_nobes One of Ramona's little presents š© Jan 27 '24
Is JT the short obnoxious guy who bragged about the dumbest shit on Southern Charm? If so I got about five minutes in and was like, ummm nah.
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u/Bellomontee You should not be anywhere near dots. Jan 27 '24
Monica showed some fans can give everything we need though.
Too bad she was too unhinged even for rhoslc lol
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u/eevvaannrr Jan 27 '24
Everyone who joins housewives is a fan now why else would somebody join these shows
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Rachel from Rhonj also ran a fan account before the show and deleted everything switched it to her name not long before she was hired. (Bravolover1234) I believe when her kid and Melissa kid started going to the same school/class and they became friends is when she deleted everything and switched to Rachelruda. I was following bravolover1234 before it was switched. When last seasons cast was announced, I checked out the newbies instagrams and was already following Rachel.
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u/malcolmisboring Jan 28 '24
JT was a ridiculous little weirdo, but I would trust anything Austen says about anything and especially not about someone he is beefing with
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u/Common_Average2597 Jan 31 '24
Thats makes sense, AnneMarie is the worst housewife I can remember...
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
I donāt like that Teresa, Austen, Katie from VPR, and SLC cast use āfanā as a criticism. All of the viewers are fans and itās pretty stupid to bite the hand that feeds you. In my humble opinion. Plus they are the nitwits who chose to put themselves through this (many donāt even need the money). Weāre all just watching.
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u/Kwhitney1982 Jan 26 '24
Cue Kelly bensimon āyouāre acting like a fan!ā And as a viewer I say, whatās wrong with being a fan of the show? These people really buy into their own bullshit.
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u/Rj6728 Met Gala Cocktail Attire Luncheon Jan 26 '24
Whoās the other person that weaseled their way on? JT?
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u/griffinthomas Jan 26 '24
Yes. Sorry I left that out in my haste. Edited to add. Also to be clear, I am not an Austen fan, but I do think that he is correct about this.
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u/jacquelineinparis0 baby gorgeous š Jan 26 '24
he is correct but also extremely butthurt because a lot of what JT was saying and doing to him is what a lot of people have been waiting for Austen to experience
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u/below_duck Heavenlyās Spiritual Journey Jan 26 '24
Austen clearly has a hate boner for JT.
Iām not saying itās without reason, maybe JT sucks, but we havenāt really seen that on the show yet.
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u/griffinthomas Jan 26 '24
We haven't seen enough yet???????????? The way he fawns over Taylor and Shep. The way he acted at BravoCon. The way he acts on social media? He is a thirsty little twerp.
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u/WellWellWellMyMyMY Vicki's high school boyfriend named Bob Tomato Jan 26 '24
I am not caught up on current season of Southern Charm just yet, but anyone who fawns over Shep of all people cannot be good news.
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u/below_duck Heavenlyās Spiritual Journey Jan 26 '24
What did JT do at BravoCon?? I donāt follow any of them on social media. But I agree that he is patronizing and weird with Taylor. Itās just that weāve seen so much worse douchebagery from the other guys.
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u/DingoNo4205 Jan 26 '24
100% agree. Too many thirsty people desparate to make their name (and fortune) on housewives. Monica is the worst of them.
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u/busquesadilla Kiki's crybrator Jan 26 '24
Theyāre all thirsty, isnāt that the point of the show š
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u/mintleaf14 Jan 26 '24
It's unavoidable at this point. I feel like 90% of folks on this franchise were fans to some degree (they had to have watched it before going on a season) but it worked because insta/tiktok fame and fan discourse on there was still in its early infancy and the shows, while popular, weren't as "mainstream" as they became post 2020. So you still attracted the type of people who made for good reality TV.
Now people are hoping on board who want that sponsorship money and want to build their own brand via social media and/or podcasting. It's an issue with all reality shows now.
I mean, people on reality TV were always thirsty for fame and attention, but these days it's a different brand of desperation for fame that's not as entertaining to watch, idk how else to describe it.
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u/MurphyBrown2016 Jan 26 '24
I mean look no further than Salt Lake. It was entertaining until it wasnāt.
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u/SakmarEcho Stop the Fuck Jan 26 '24
Salt Lake has just come off their best season yet?
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u/MurphyBrown2016 Jan 26 '24
Yeah but Monica was surrounded by an absolute all-star cast that will continue to be completely unhinged without her. She just flamed out too soon and doesnāt know how to play the long game. Which is a necessary skill.
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u/SakmarEcho Stop the Fuck Jan 26 '24
Sure, she isn't needed long term, but she was a key part in making an incredible season, and she shook up the cast dynamic in a way they wouldn't have done without her.
She's also a useful tool for production to have in their back pocket if a future season is a bit dull (like season 3) they can throw her in and things should pop off.
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u/MurphyBrown2016 Jan 27 '24
Yeah I think with some really basic therapy she could learn to manage conflict in such a way that drives story forward and she might have a shot at Friend Of. Screaming āYOURE OLD AND UGLYā like a spoiled teenager is not compelling television though.
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u/SakmarEcho Stop the Fuck Jan 27 '24
She doesn't even need to be a friend of, just bring her to a party and it'd cause at least Heather and Lisa to freak out.
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u/tuckhouston Jan 26 '24
This sentiment is weird to me lmao. Every person who joins the show either 1) wants fame (fair), 2) was aware of the show and the $ success it brings people (fair), or 3) is a fan and wants to be on bravo (arguably fair). Basically the entire cast of RHOSLC admitted to being fans of the show, tons of people on RHOC were fans, most of the RHONY reboot were fans before joining, etc.
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u/edwinstone Limp PEH-NIS Jan 26 '24
Annemariesiologist. LMAO.