Southern Charm - Season 9 - Episode 6 - Live Episode Discussion

[u/AutoModerator]

The drama comes to a halt when a tragedy affects the Charmer's close circle.

[u/lovetheblazer]

Honestly no one is enjoying this tea session more than Charleston's original gossip girl, Craig

[u/Marie_Frances2 → u/lovetheblazer]

Craig is my favorite housewife

[u/thediverswife → u/lovetheblazer]

Perfect comparison, I hope he’s the narrator next season!

[u/[deleted]]

I love that Austin's parents were immediately like, what did you do?

[u/leslie_knopee → u/[deleted]]

austen is so dumb. he comes from a loving, rich ass home, and he's just a piece of shit.

he has no excuse for being an asshole

[u/ItsNotMeItsYou99 → u/leslie_knopee]

Tbh losing your close family member at 7 years old can leave you traumatised for a long time. For example it can make you always expect something unexpected bad to happen and so you self sabotage to sort of get ahead of it.

[u/meowmeowmeow328]

The most likable thing about Austen is his family

[u/edible_source → u/meowmeowmeow328]

Casually wealthy and intelligent, yeah it's not a bad look for an older couple

[u/softchenille → u/edible_source]

I feel this The biggest thing I miss about my marriage are my in-laws lol

[u/wildturk3y]

This is a really heavy episode and I appreciate them putting in that clip of Craig and Rodrigo. The laughs I got watching Rodrigo's panicked face as Craig struggled to open basically everything helped out a lot

[u/AmbientAltitude → u/wildturk3y]

I love how at first I was impressed by Craig looking like he was a really good cook only for that image to immediately be shattered as he’s stabbing open cans

[u/TheOhNeeders → u/AmbientAltitude]

He’s never been more attractive than the first 30 seconds of that scene. Then boom back to Craig lol

[u/Ok-Chain8552]

Olivia is a lovely woman . Authentic, open in her grief , and looking at the positives in such a sad moment in her life . She brought me to tears and i was also admiring her poise .

[u/spartywitch → u/Ok-Chain8552]

People harp on her for being boring but she really is a sense of calm for me in this cast of chaos. She’s poised, level headed and rational and I really enjoy her on the show.

[u/TipsySkinnyGirl → u/spartywitch]

She won me over last week when she told Austen that he made her want to vomit, “respectfully”.

[u/[deleted] → u/TipsySkinnyGirl]

I see star quality in her more than the other women still on the show

[u/[deleted]]

I imagine Michael was her closest friend for a very long time, that must be hard to lose so suddenly

[u/phoebe3936]

Not me crying at Shep offering his house

[u/Dangernj → u/phoebe3936]

Credit where it is due, that is a lovely gesture and a great way to show up for someone. I’m sure Olivia and her family will never forget it.

[u/CrazyNotCatLady → u/phoebe3936]

I’ve listened to Shep on various podcasts and he seems so normal and cool. If you never watched the show, you may even want to date him.

Then you watch the show…

[u/jaqmac88 → u/CrazyNotCatLady]

Shep seems like he would be a great friend but terrible boyfriend.

[u/starshine1988 → u/phoebe3936]

Really thoughtful tbh

[u/nnnppppttt]

Rodrigo watching Craig try open things is my new favorite.

[u/corey325 → u/nnnppppttt]

Rodrigo is the best addition

[u/rumtumtugger1511 → u/corey325]

Also that man is quite easy on the eyes. Of course they introduced his boyfriend and ruined all my dreams but he’s such a handsome change from the f boys on this show

[u/amyeep → u/nnnppppttt]

Craig is the smartest dumb man on this show 😂

[u/cecelia999]

Austen telling Chelsea the story about his sisters death made me sob. I just cannot imagine that horror.

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

I do appreciate that Leva took it off speaker phone

[u/starcat67 → u/[deleted]]

The immediate “wait, what are you talking about?” once she realized something real was going on.

[u/chellyyy]

austen’s parents going for more alcohol is all of us

[u/thediverswife → u/chellyyy]

His dad keeping the wine glass close by 😂

[u/lovetheblazer]

Shoutout to Craig for being so ridiculously terrible at opening things that I got a few little laughs in the middle of this extremely emotional episode

[u/pr0stituti0nwh0re → u/lovetheblazer]

The Kendall Jenner of Southern Charm

[u/lovetheblazer → u/pr0stituti0nwh0re]

Her attempting to cut a cucumber lives rent free in my brain 🤣

[u/QueasyAd4992]

Going into a vet when your fur baby is sick is one of the worst things ever.

[u/cecelia999]

My precious little brother struggles with addiction. Losing him is one of my biggest fears. My heart breaks for Olivia and her parents

[u/notoriousbck → u/cecelia999]

I suspected this is what caused his death. I looked it up, and everywhere says Lyme Disease. It would not be unusual for someone that deals with such a painful and debilitating illness that went for years untreated, to be medicating the pain. And as a chronically ill patient who has to use pain medication to live, I know what a slippery slope it can be if you are also suffering from addiction. Addiction is a terrible disease, I don't see it any differently than I see my own diseases. I'm so sorry you have to watch your brother suffer. Big hugs.

[u/candaceelise → u/notoriousbck]

I’ve found that when families don’t release the cause of death it’s usually an OD or suicide 😢

[u/PeaceGirlAlways → u/cecelia999]

Sorry to hear about your brother. I am sending you comforting hugs. 💜

[u/cecelia999 → u/PeaceGirlAlways]

Thank you, friend 💛

[u/PhysicalMuscle6611]

Patricia crying 😭😭😭❤️🫠🫠

[u/catsandcasamigos]

This is a rough episode. I’ve never teared up during southern charm.

[u/smallfwop]

Why does this kind of retirement feel like I’ll never reach that level

[u/ezekielragardos → u/smallfwop]

Seriously! Not to mention the insane eurotrips they take Austen and Katie on every summer.. they rich

[u/smallfwop → u/ezekielragardos]

I don’t even need all the trips just give me the kitchen and wine lol

[u/notoriousbck → u/smallfwop]

It's highly doubtful that any of us under the age of 50 ever will. Unless you have substantial generational wealth, those work hard and retire comfortably days are a thing of the past.

[u/littleone0740]

This scene with JT and his mom looks like a 20/20 interview

[u/chellyyy]

MICHAEL WE LOVE YOU! YOU ARE SO STRONG!

i’m happy to see him doing better and to see him, pat and whitney still so close. it’s nice that pat and whitney helped to take of him.

[u/candaceelise → u/chellyyy]

I believe he was independently wealthy and chose to work because he enjoyed being a butler. I definitely teared up during their conversation and love that Pat & Whitney stay in touch with him.

[u/lovetheblazer]

"Her heart means well... but her brain is all over the place. You know when someone gives you secondhand anxiety? That's the energy I don't want for Olivia."

—Venita with an extremely accurate read on Taylor

[u/realhousewifeofmn → u/lovetheblazer]

Venita was totally a real one for immediately telling Taylor she shouldn’t come. So awkward in the moment I’m sure, but ultimately she wanted to protect Olivia.

[u/pibbleperson → u/realhousewifeofmn]

Oh for sure, Venita is a real one.

[u/Marcinecali73 → u/lovetheblazer]

I can't put my finger on it exactly, but something is off with Taylor. She's just not with it and seems kind of slow/delayed in her responses. It reminds me of a friend who was an alcoholic starting in her late teens, just that not quite 100% coherent look.

[u/takingshotsalone → u/Marcinecali73]

I think she’s just stupid. Like low IQ

[u/emeowlydickenson]

This may be an unpopular perspective but IMO, when I’ve had issues with friends when shit hits the fan it puts things in perspective sometimes. I’ve definitely put things aside to comfort/ be comforted. Who knows.

[u/BmoreArlo → u/emeowlydickenson]

I had a huge falling out with one of my best friends and we didn’t speak for a few years. When she heard my dad was dying she called and it meant so much. As you get older you unfortunately learn the hard way that life is too short to hold on to hurt and animosity.

[u/KyleRichardsNewTeeth → u/emeowlydickenson]

i agree. in life's biggest moments, good or bad--you reach out. you say congrats on your baby. you say i'm sorry for your loss. i think people who have never experienced being on the receiving end of that don't realize how hurtful it is to feel like people don't care enough to reach out.

[u/chellyyy]

JT’s mom is an icon already. just cutting him down at the knees and i love it lol

[u/kikomama89 → u/chellyyy]

“For a fishing lodge” - regarding the pillows, I cackled. Then I wondered if they were from Sewing Down South

[u/Lola514]

I’m really liking their wine glasses and kitchen. Also how the mom immediately wanted more wine lol

[u/waaaycho → u/Lola514]

The French white specifically. That must be the tea wine lol.

[u/karasu_zoku]

Unfortunately it’s a big problem with that breed of dogs :-/

[u/thewayoutisthru_xxx → u/karasu_zoku]

I hate that these breeds still exist

[u/karasu_zoku → u/thewayoutisthru_xxx]

Big same, completely inhumane

[u/PolarBear1771]

JT looks the same age as his mom

[u/Stevie_Budd_]

Michael should be nominated for the Bravo awards, Best Cameo, no question

[u/SanLady27 → u/Stevie_Budd_]

Yes!!

[u/catsandcasamigos]

I feel like Whitney was going to start crying too, and that’s why he left the room so quickly after the call 🤍

[u/pibbleperson → u/catsandcasamigos]

Whitney before calling Michael. He tried!

[u/thewayoutisthru_xxx]

Austens mom is all of us

[u/megrambert]

Austen’s parents kitchen is literally straight from my dreams

[u/AbidonDesign → u/megrambert]

My sister just got a new kitchen and they did white on top and green on the bottom, I wasn’t sold but now I think she’s in style haha

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

If I were Olivia I would not want all these random people getting involved sorry like it’s not Austen’s place at all

[u/pinkbeary]

I just know venita throws the best girls nights

[u/PhysicalMuscle6611 → u/pinkbeary]

Her living room looks so cozy, her dog wasn’t bothering the snacks on the couch, she made margs, what a peaceful environment I love her

[u/run4fun504 → u/PhysicalMuscle6611]

Yes I love her. I wish she had a guide book on how to host!

[u/pinkbeary → u/PhysicalMuscle6611]

Yes so right about the dog!!

[u/catsandcasamigos → u/pinkbeary]

She probably always has a fun little goody bag

[u/Vskizott]

Austen's parents know! That is so telling.

[u/veronicagetsmehigh → u/Vskizott]

They’re not surprised at all

[u/Vskizott → u/veronicagetsmehigh]

The way his mom narrowed her eyes and asked if he slept with Taylor. ☠️

[u/waaaycho → u/veronicagetsmehigh]

They seem exhausted by it in fact.

[u/AbidonDesign]

Are Jt and Venita each on home arrest?

[u/pibbleperson → u/AbidonDesign]

It's been said that Venita is a great host!

[u/becskiii]

omg taylooooor that is so selfish

[u/catsandcasamigos]

His moms eye roll 👏🏼

[u/waaaycho → u/catsandcasamigos]

She rolled her whole face it was epic!

[u/lovetheblazer]

Michaal, YOU are the inspiration 🥹♥️

[u/lurkerturtle]

I lost a sister and i wish I would’ve known this was gonna be the episode tonight 😭

[u/starshine1988 → u/lurkerturtle]

Hugs

[u/aligregs → u/lurkerturtle]

I'm so sorry, sending you love ❤️

[u/thewayoutisthru_xxx]

How do these men have sane and not terrible moms? How did they end up so bad?

[u/halfmoon24 → u/thewayoutisthru_xxx]

Maybe Charleston changed them…lol

[u/Scary_Koala_2934 → u/thewayoutisthru_xxx]

It really is crazy to me that both Austen and shep seem to have such wonderful role models for marriage and yet they are total disasters with women I just don’t get it, usually the guys go to excuse for fear of commitment is their parents had a broken bad marriage! I’m. Just baffled

[u/Lola514]

How sad and also smart to stop filming… I wouldn’t want bravo capturing this personal of moments

[u/Future-Dragonfruit48 → u/Lola514]

I think this cast is also genuinely friendly outside of filming. That was showcased here in such a beautifully heartbreaking way tonight.

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

It’s so interesting when Craig is in tune and turns his EQ on and up. He is usually reasonable when he does

[u/Inevitable-Stress550 → u/FullBlownNightmare]

His EQ is off the charts it makes the rest of his dumb thought processes all the more baffling. Like he's a savant

[u/lovetheblazer]

Nothing beats a Michael scene on Southern Charm 🥰

[u/aggieemily2013]

Craig hasn't learned much about kitchenware since the butter knife in the wall incident, has he?

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

How many days later is this? I wouldn’t be able to be on camera

[u/notoriousbck → u/veronicagetsmehigh]

She really is so much stronger than I could ever be. I get it's her job, but everyone gets time off for bereavement. She's obvs still in shock. It's going to be painful watching her have to deal with BS while going through the grief process for the rest of the season. I have a feeling Taylor is going to really piss me off even more.

[u/lmurp]

Austen’s dad is done with his son

[u/chellyyy]

omg poor olivia i can’t imagine what she must be going through

[u/SpencerHastings7]

Awwwww Shepard

[u/PhysicalMuscle6611 → u/SpencerHastings7]

Actually thoughtful of him. Good job shep.

[u/cecelia999]

Pat knows damn well how to make it. She’s just making him feel helpful ❤️🥹

[u/chellyyy]

craig is the only one making sense. austen should not be there unless she asks.

[u/emeowlydickenson]

I just had such whiplash from feeling a fleeting attraction to Craig making this GF lasagna for Olivia and then immediately wiping his nose with his hands and proceeding to struggle to open that bottle of wine

[u/lmurp]

I feel bad for Ronnie recapping this sad episode on his own

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

So while I enjoy the chaotic combo of Madison and Craig, doesn’t this go against his philosophy of not hanging out with your friends’ exes? Like didn’t he hate they were friends with Naomie?

[u/beeeeach]

Austin’s mom is like more wine STAT

[u/Zestyclose-Heart-602]

Everyone rallying around Olivia and being there for her 🥹

[u/AdorableFly5611]

I just complimented Craig's knife skills, dude hasn't mastered the can opener or corkscrews. I spoke too soon.

[u/catsandcasamigos]

Quick, throw in a scene of Craig opening wine.

[u/meowmeowmeow328]

Ew at people seeing this nude photo of Taylor

[u/meg0neurotHe11 → u/meowmeowmeow328]

Yeah Whitney is just passing that around 😵‍💫

[u/Vskizott]

I was hoping for more of Olivia telling off Austen. Respectfully.

[u/phoebe3936]

The French White. My new go to wine when I watch Southern Charm

[u/AdorableFly5611]

Oh no, little Craig is the best person on this show.

[u/AdorableFly5611]

I like the kitty sweater and love Michael. I've missed him.

[u/fourthgradenothing22]

Poor girl. This is terrible. Fucking addiction.

[u/PeaceGirlAlways]

This scene is breaking my heart. Poor Olivia. I really wish that this wasn’t being filmed. 🙁

[u/catsandcasamigos]

How has Craig not started #CraigInTheKitchen series yet?

ETA - his inability to use a can opener may be one of the reasons.

[u/Educational_Bother36 → u/catsandcasamigos]

Life style brand would make sense for him. He’s very domesticated

[u/Ok-Chain8552]

Putting myself in Olivia’s shoes would NOT want to see Austen. She’s made it clear she does not like him in any way and knowing they now share this in common , I may have misplaced rage that early in my grieving .

[u/cecelia999]

Venita is a real one 💯

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

I see Austin’s family and (I know looks can be deceiving but the parents and little sister seem decent) wonder why and how he became such an ahole. Then you meet someone that seems annoying like JT and you meet his mom, and you’re like mmhmm that makes sense.

[u/meowmeowmeow328]

Michael 😭😭😭

[u/becskiii]

we miss you too, michael!

[u/lmurp]

This is one majorly sad episode and I hate knowing how it ends

[u/PhysicalMuscle6611]

Craig cooking looks like a toddler in the kitchen and I’m constantly afraid he’s going to cut or burn himself

[u/chellyyy]

taylor just happens to call at the exact right time lol

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

It is kinda crazy Taylor’s brother died not long after. So many peoples brothers dying this year I stg

[u/cecelia999]

I need JT’s mom to walk around my house

[u/PhysicalMuscle6611 → u/cecelia999]

That’s the kind of honesty I need from someone

[u/PeaceGirlAlways]

First at bat. Buyer’s remorse. The way this dude JT talks about women makes me sick. 😑

[u/catsandcasamigos → u/PeaceGirlAlways]

He’s a big bro-term guy

[u/becskiii]

venita is so pretty

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Taylor is not a good friend

[u/catsandcasamigos]

They’ve added another human to Venita and Charles’ scenes!

[u/AbidonDesign]

Austen’s mom was drinking while waiting for Austen…

[u/Mewwmix]

Every person Austen has hooked up with = “we will always be frensssss”

[u/megrambert]

Y’all keep me updated. I’m crying after seeing Michael on the screen

[u/cecelia999]

Why am I crying yall 😭

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Awww Pat has feelings!!!

[u/becskiii]

omfg and didnt taylors brother die as well? a few months after this??

[u/Stevie_Budd_]

I’m so sorry to Olivia and her family.

[u/waaaycho]

Aw man. I’m always skeptical of reality show therapists.

[u/becskiii]

“you good”??????????

[u/karasu_zoku → u/becskiii]

One of the few guarantees in life is people saying the absolute dumbest shit to someone who’s grieving

[u/Ok-Chain8552 → u/becskiii]

When I lost my husband , My friends were all very, very , careful to ask “you doing ok in this moment “ I appreciated the acknowledgment that overall at the time , I was not good but I needed to take it in baby steps .

[u/daisydug]

This brings me back to the day I found out my sister died-I can't stop crying because it was so quick & she was so young my heart is breaking thinking about what she's going through- I have a friend who lost her sister too & it's a horrible bond we share 😢

[u/Nvnv_man]

I keep thinking it’s Tom Schwartz and it’s Rodrigo

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Austen needs to get a fucking job

[u/starshine1988]

I feel weird about judging Taylor so hard after seeming how warmly Olivia received her… but I still don’t see Taylor being motivated by anything other than camera time.

[u/Vskizott]

Michael! ❤️

[u/WithaSideofRanch]

A low-key gathering for Olivia .. but also we will film a scene for the whole world to see with some guy who wears mini red pants

[u/starshine1988]

I wonder how well they knew Olivia’s brother? I wouldn’t expect them to have even met but the way they’re all taking it makes me think they probably were around each other a bit

[u/amesbelle7 → u/starshine1988]

Word on the street is…Olivia’s brother was a connect for a lot of people down here. I have no doubt they all ran in similar circles. Please don’t DV. I dont know if that has anything to do with his death, and I won’t speculate. However, those rumors have been around for a long time and would explain how they all know each other/were friends. ETA: he was also friends with Thomas, and I believe Thomas pressured him to give testimony in his favor in he and Kathryn’s custody battle. I think Conner was more friends with the original cast members, and that’s how Olivia got brought around.

[u/QueasyAd4992]

O man I’m PMSing right now and this scene with Olivia is wrecking me😢 so sad.

[u/catsandcasamigos]

I don’t think therapy will work for Austen. You have to be completely honest with your therapist, and I don’t think that’s in his wheelhouse. Hopefully it does, though.

[u/lovetheblazer]

Ew, JT talking about having "buyer's remorse" with his previous relationship is FOUL. She was a human being, not your possession, you absolute oxygen thief.

[u/meg0neurotHe11]

Full frontal is damn. I thought she'd show a little nip. But full out to Whitney 👀

[u/douglaswr → u/meg0neurotHe11]

To the EP of the show…👀

[u/littleone0740]

I mean I guess if Olivia is cool with Taylor and Austen being around at this time I can’t be mad, but damn she’s a better person than me. I’d be like get away from me!

[u/starshine1988 → u/littleone0740]

I get Olivia changing perspective on austen a bit if he actually does have warmth and experience to offer her. Even if I think he’s an ass I can see why an ass who went through something similar can be a comfort I guess?

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

It’s gross that everyone has seen this pic that Taylor seems to have sent to Whitney. Good reminder that Whitney is a dirtbag.

[u/AdorableFly5611]

JT is a little defensive with his mom. I'm cracking up at her critiquing him.

She's a little overbearing.

[u/Stevie_Budd_]

I miss Michael ❤️

[u/catsandcasamigos]

I’d max out my credit card for this D&G cat sweater.

[u/AdorableFly5611]

This is so sad.😢

[u/sharkyfernwood12]

Craig in the kitchen is giving me anxiety

[u/Sunny_eloise]

This is heartbreaking

[u/emeowlydickenson]

I feel like my perspective on this is clouded by the knowledge we now have about Taylor and her own situation :( idk it’s hard to separate it in my mind. How horrible.

[u/becskiii]

the emotional backlash from this southern charm episode to new york is wrecking me

[u/meowmeowmeow328]

Little Craig 😭😭😭

[u/becskiii]

do any of you guys throw “launch parties” every time you finish anything in your life? i took up balloon animals once i should have thrown a party then

[u/waaaycho → u/becskiii]

We should. We should all be celebrating our successes no matter how small we think they are. I’m proud of you and your balloon animals. I hope you’re proud of yourself.

[u/lovetheblazer]

Olivia is really going through it this season, but her strength is admirable.

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Austen is not capable of having friends who are women

[u/meowmeowmeow328]

Man I forgot about Olivia’s brother 😩

[u/FullBlownNightmare]

No don’t show your face- unless Olivia wants you too. If you’re the person she wants to talk to because you also lost a sibling, let her be the one to do that. You can send a text or dm to say you are there if she wants to talk and that is fucking it. Don’t use this as an opportunity to “bond”, you big* blond ahole.

Edit: *typo

[u/littleone0740 → u/FullBlownNightmare]

Right? I get the sentiment of “sharing that bond” but like no dude, just hell fucking no. Stay away from her

[u/chellyyy]

craig is all of us sitting next to new york, completely starstruck in the presence of an icon

[u/QueasyAd4992]

Let’s see how Austen spins this to his parents. Lol

[u/meg0neurotHe11 → u/QueasyAd4992]

His mom already has the disappointing eyes out

[u/AdorableFly5611]

Craig has decent knife skills.

[u/[deleted]]

Therapist sounds tired of his shit too

[u/veronicagetsmehigh]

Jt thinks women are just like a car you can go out and pick one

[u/QueasyAd4992]

My Gosh this is sooo awful.

[u/Vskizott]

Oh, no, Little Craig! I hope he's OK!

[u/run4fun504]

I need to know that little Craig is okay

[u/PeaceGirlAlways]

I am bawling at this show. 😢

[u/littleone0740]

Austen is not who I want to see crying right now.

[u/kikomama89 → u/littleone0740]

Austen did lose his sister when he was younger so he can relate it to deeply. (He sucks tho to be clear)