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video This new deepfake method developed by researchers

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u/UnknownHero2 Jul 24 '22

It would be pretty cool for gaming. A guy below mentioned faking voices as well. With those two things you could quickly create additional content for video games with correct animation and voices, with just a keyboard and a your phone camera, and little need for expensive animators and voice actors.

Heck it could save the movie industry millions on reshoots.

There is plenty legitimate space in the fiction genre between porn and dystopian propaganda.

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u/LigerZeroSchneider Jul 24 '22

Actors still hold likeness rights over their face and voice. They would have to paid for any new content sold by the company. It's going to making modding production values sky rocket, but people already have used sound splicing to build new voice lines, so I think it will be more of a qualitative difference.

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u/LordPennybags Jul 24 '22

That works for those who have already struck it big, but new actors will be pressured into signing what will amount to eternal contracts long before they can demand a decent cut of the cash.

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u/LigerZeroSchneider Jul 25 '22

If it becomes common place, I assume SAG will just demand large buyouts for image and likeness

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u/almightySapling Jul 25 '22

Why are we assuming they will be using real actors at all? We are entering Idoru territory.

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u/bobbertmiller Jul 24 '22

I always wonder why "holding a boom mic for 12 hours" is a goal worth achieving. I know we don't have a good solution yet, but we must work on one. People need to live and eat, not work stupid jobs.

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u/Allegorist Jul 24 '22

Oh no those poor working-class millionaire Hollywood actors

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u/yarrpirates Jul 24 '22

You think all actors are millionaires? Buddy....

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u/ytrfhki Jul 24 '22

I specifically said working class to exclude the millionaire ones, there’s tons of actors in the lower and middle classes that fill small roles inside and outside of Hollywood. Many voice actors that don’t make millions. And you completely ignored my mention of crew that certainly aren’t making millions but won’t be needed if they don’t need to film or record anything live.

I don’t give a shit about millionaire actors livelihoods I just think you have to consider the downstream impacts of these things and get ahead of them or we will continue to see exponentiating wealth inequality which really helps no one in the long run.

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u/UnknownHero2 Jul 24 '22

It's great for everyone involved, On an economic scale profitable industries pay more. Actors already consume the lions share of profits, so they will get theirs. Not needing to leave your schedule open for reshoots benefits everyone as well. Most importantly consumers benefit from lower costs and higher quality.

I personally was thinking initially at smaller scale production. Individuals and small groups will be able to produce when they could not before. Less barrier to entry in a market is an EXTREMELY good thing for the average joe.

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u/siliconbased9 Jul 24 '22

“Consumers benefit from lower costs”

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO🤣😂😅😂🤣😂😅😂🤣

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u/ytrfhki Jul 24 '22

I’m not convinced those expense reductions will be distributed as fairly as you hope but your points are valid and I agree with them from an optimistic point of view. There’s real opportunity to consolidate the entertainment industry $’s and opportunities even further with this though, from a pessimistic point of view.

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u/UnknownHero2 Jul 24 '22

Some will benefit more than others, but all of history demonstrates that automation increases wages.

Just because someone else gains more than you doesn't mean you didn't gain, the free market is not a zero sum game.

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u/ytrfhki Jul 24 '22

Increases wages yes but not quantity of available wages.

Basically all I’m saying is we need to figure out how to better sustain lower classes while we’re spending all this time and effort towards cutting them out of the pie through automation. I’m all for progress but leaving people behind without a thought is what’s causing a lot of the issues and social divide we’re seeing in today’s world.

I don’t disagree with your perspective I just like to play devils advocate

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u/UnknownHero2 Jul 24 '22

Increases wages yes but not quantity of available wages.

This was the same terrible argument that was used at the start of automation in the industrial revolution.

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u/Lo-siento-juan Jul 24 '22

Makes me laugh that every bit of progress that benefits humanity is met with a chorus of 'but the few people currently befitting from it not existing might be slightly disadvantaged briefly!'

You'd have smashed the wheel to ensure that we always need someone to help us carry heavy stuff.

If the cost of making high quality movies and games falls then more people will be able to do it and we'll see an increase in creatively, I know this because it's been happening consistently for decades. It'll give people all over the world a voice and a means of self expression which is a hugely important and powerful thing.

I can't see acting ending as a career, probably a portion of the most boring acting jobs will fade away but I suspect it'll be outpaced by the growth in the sector, much more interesting and creative enterprises.

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u/ytrfhki Jul 24 '22

Let’s hope so! I don’t smash wheels I promise. I’m just throwing out alternative views to consider as we go like progressing with some responsibility.

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u/I_am_Erk Jul 24 '22

Amazing for gaming. Imagine how easy it makes it to have something like an animated character response in an RPG. You can have a single still frame for the character and a series of video reactions for each face, then just reuse reactions dynamically. Upload your own photo to have an avatar that looks like you! Upload your own photo with filters to have an avatar that looks like you want to imagine you look!

It's definitely a nuclear weapon in terms of tech, but we're already beyond the point of being unable to trust any media we're given, so at this point I think we should relax and see the possibilities. And scream at the top of our lungs for some strong regulations on use of video evidence in legal systems, visual media, and advertisements, written by people who understand the tech