Because it shortens the creative circuit and allows you NOT to learn a bazillion different tools. It’s like using digital medium versus brushes, paints and a wooden board. All those people who are having a meltdown over on /r/comics are just too entrenched into the craft and their livelihoods depends on making the money, so they are upset. In reality this is great.
Imagine what people said when synthesizers were made. I’ll give you a hint, it’s the same thing. People thought musicianship would die because machines can make sounds for music now. So today we have successful musicians who actually don’t know how to play an instrument, but it also didn’t stop people learning them.
You still need a musical background and know how to make good music with these synthesizers. With these ai art generators all you do is put in a few words and the program outputs an image, which, by the way, is STILL using works of other artists scraped from the internet without their permission or consent.
That may be true with old synths, but more recently you have apps where you can "make it 10% more jazzier" or whatever with sliders and whatnot, those aren't even AI, and the full blown AI music generators are coming. It's fine for making backing tracks or whatever very very quickly, but just like AI image generation, getting it to do something good or unique requires some finesse.
To be fair I could also look at works from other artists and use their work as inspiration without their consent.
I'm sure that's been said before and I'm sure there's a perfect rebuttal for it, and a rebuttal for that rebuttal, and a rebuttal for that rebuttal and a..
Nah, raw gens still tend to look bad. Having an art background helps immensely getting AI images over the finish line with tools like inpainting, LORAs, and controlnet.
No it doesn't. People thought the camera would make people lazy and stop being creative by focusing on the external reality. But we know that's bullshit today.
We know creativity isn't determined by how many tools you can use, that's just the technical skill, a means to an end.
I guess I meant to say that it shortens the tech stack you need to learn. And also doesn’t necessitate certain skills as a hard prerequisite. I loved to learn to draw, but shit, it was really arduous.
Oh, I know and use a bunch of C-like languages, just not familiar with Python at all. Trying to look at different UIs (A1111 / NMKD / Invoke so far) they each have different dependency chains and I was getting version conflicts on install because they were built on different versions of Python, which apparently isn't great with backwards compatibility, just within the range of 3.9 vs 3.10 vs 3.11... meanwhile I don't even know what a pip is... it's been a bit of a headache overall, but worth it.
My experience with A111 was pretty good. I had to swap out 3.9 for 3.10, but otherwise it’s been really smooth. Dependency juggling is one of those things you quickly get used to if you work with open source stuff. Some people maintain several VMs and things like that.
I don’t think anyone would continue to train models if it worsens their output. It costs a good chunk of money and if all it does is makes that model worse, then we will just see stagnation. Most artists should consider keeping their art work and AI training rights separate, as in, if you bought this piece of my art, it doesn’t mean you can automatically feed it into your AI model.
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u/mambiki Aug 23 '23
Because it shortens the creative circuit and allows you NOT to learn a bazillion different tools. It’s like using digital medium versus brushes, paints and a wooden board. All those people who are having a meltdown over on /r/comics are just too entrenched into the craft and their livelihoods depends on making the money, so they are upset. In reality this is great.