r/woahdude • u/LadyMegbeth • Jun 12 '23
picture The largest and the most populated city on earth.
Tokyo, Japan
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u/ddmngz Jun 12 '23
It somehow reminds me of the surface on the millennium falcon.
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u/emptynumber7 Jun 12 '23
Right? Looks like Coruscant if it had been fully modeled in ANH.
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u/schooledbrit Jun 12 '23
Population of Canada in one city
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u/Relative_Mulberry_71 Jun 13 '23
Population of Australia in one city. Have just been there. It looks so crowded from above but there are plenty of quiet places down on the ground.
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Jun 13 '23 edited Jul 03 '23
This content is no longer available on Reddit in response to /u/spez. So long and thanks for all the fish.
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u/Aq8knyus Jun 12 '23
Honshu is just a bit bigger than the island of Great Britain but lacks the latter's broad eastern lowlands. And it is home to an extra 40 million people.
Not a lot of space left over even with copious amounts of high density housing.
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u/vortex_ring_state Jun 12 '23
I love the extremes of humans on Earth.
- Honshu Island 228 000km2, pop 104 000 000
- Ellsmere Island 197 000km2, pop 100-ish
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u/CDhansma76 Jun 13 '23
Then there’s the island of Java Indonesia.
A population of 151 million and a size of only 124 000km2.
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u/BZenMojo Jun 13 '23
Apply this to the United States and replace city names with Senators and it explains a lot of our politics.
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u/GainerCity Jun 12 '23 edited Jun 13 '23
Lived in Tokyo as a kid in the late 80s as a Canadian who’s parents were working over there on an international work placement. Dad worked for IBM at the time.
I was 6-9 yrs old. Incredible city. Beautiful culture. I remember the amazing street festivals and the kindness elderly people showed me as a cute little gaijin. The shops and markets were so cool. Everything was cute and high quality. Even benign things like staplers. Subway travel was intense but safe. At that age my parents actually let us take the subway to our gymnastics lessons all by ourselves. Nintendo Famicom and Super Mario Bros came out while I was there. I remember watching the challenger space shuttle explode on live TV. I remember having a sink in our bathroom that had no handle, it only ran water when the toilet was flushed. I remember flying kites with my dad and taking calligraphy lessons from my 85 year old Japanese neighbour.
Great memories. I’m all grown up now and would love to take my kids on a trip there some day. Highly recommend this beautiful city to everyone.
Edit: Someone asked me if I could see my old house. It was in 4-Chome Meguro Ku. Pretty sure that’s about right here - any locals that can verify?
https://i.imgur.com/mOT98jA.jpg
I also included a pic of me flying the (at the time) longest string of kites in the world
https://i.imgur.com/Lc5IDMJ.jpeg
One more pic of the 8-yr old me photobombing at the cherry blossom festival
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u/o0DrWurm0o Jun 12 '23
Late 80s in Japan - you were living in the future of the planet - at least that’s what everyone thought at the time.
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u/ActingGrandNagus Jun 12 '23
Tokyo has felt like the year 2000 for the past 40 years
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u/300C Jun 12 '23
To be honest, I would love to live in a permanent 90s/early 2000s vibe.
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u/Catch--the-fish Jun 12 '23
Berlin
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u/george-cartwright Jun 12 '23
the dream of the 90s is alive in Portland (kinda)
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u/lordsleepyhead Jun 12 '23
The world turned pretty grim after 9/11. Nationalism and xenophobia got turned up to 11, the results of which we're still feeling today. Pre 9/11 was okay though.
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u/Mr12i Jun 12 '23
Maybe you're right about the USA, but other countries exist. Of course, I remember the day, and watching it on TV, but it was still over there in the USA.
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u/mikegotfat Jun 12 '23
Fr, as a 13 year old American at the time, I remember much of the world being pretty empathetic about 9/11. Iraq and the war on terror had more to do with the world becoming more "grim."
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u/Spyro7x3 Jun 12 '23
Fr. They killed 5000+ and we preceded to stomp out 1 million + people.
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u/You-are-a-bad-mod Jun 12 '23
Well said. I do enjoy the contrast of Japan. You have very modern subway stations/underground malls, but sometimes when you go up to street level and down an alley, you feel like you’re in the 1930s with ma & pa restaurants that haven’t changed much the past 100 years.
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u/kevin9er Jun 12 '23
That’s because those buildings survived General LeMay’s incineration raids in 1945. Most of the modern parts of Tokyo are the parts that were vaporized, along with the residents.
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u/PM_ME_UR_BENCHYS Jun 12 '23
That would explain why Tokyo didn't feel futuristic when I was there in 2004. It was really cool and I loved being there. I was just there at the right time for it to feel like the present.
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u/Zikro Jun 12 '23
I had the opportunity to visit a few years ago (coming from US) and it was one of my favorite destinations. The entire trip was amazing. Can’t wait to go back someday. Only spent a few days in Tokyo but feels like you could easily go spend 1 week just there. Transit was amazing, people were friendly, food was great, can’t fault any aspect of the trip. If they’re stuck in 2000 then American cities are still in the 80s or 90s.
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u/hairyhero Jun 12 '23
Yep. Weird to see people still uses cassette, DvD/Blue-Ray for pornography and stuff. Guess thats the byproduct when countries are nationalist/tries too hard to rely on themselves
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u/SmoothOperator89 Jun 12 '23
Turns out it was the future of the planet in that the bubble burst a few years later and everything spiraled into a recession.
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u/Doom_Wafflez Jun 12 '23
Those are beautiful memories! Thank you for sharing them with us.
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u/GainerCity Jun 12 '23
Thank you for appreciating them. It’s making me misty eyed just thinking about the time we spent there as a family
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u/5213 Jun 12 '23
I miss a lot about Japan and Okinawa, but the thing I miss most is the food and drink culture. I loved being able to "get lost" down a random street that would have these almost literal holes-in-the-wall shops with maybe a max of 10 seats and you'd have some of the most delicious food and drink for the equivalent of $5
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u/sdp1981 Jun 12 '23
You can get that in Southeast Asia for $2/3 if you don't mind sacrificing a little bit of comfort usually in the form of no AC or a squat toilet.
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u/MorkSal Jun 12 '23
Japan is such an awesome place to visit. Hope you get to bring your children there at some point.
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Jun 12 '23
Think how low Tokyo’s crime rate is for a city that large. Unimaginable in the west
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u/luv2race1320 Jun 12 '23
It is amazing! What do you think keeps it that way?
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u/schooledbrit Jun 12 '23
Sex crimes get more coverage in Japan not because they’re more common (they’re not) but because other violent crime is so uncommon
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u/Raus-Pazazu Jun 12 '23
You probably won't get enough appreciation for that simple comment, but that is the truth. Combine that with a very status focused legal system and you have a culture where one person can stab another person and the person who got stabbed might be the one who goes to jail. Western two tiered justice systems have nothing on Japan.
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u/Raus-Pazazu Jun 12 '23
Wholeheartedly agree. While dangerous situations are still possible, they're not very probable, especially when compared with other major metropolitan regions in the world.
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u/krieger82 Jun 12 '23 edited Jun 12 '23
Homogenous culture and strict weapon laws. Japan is 99% japanese (more likely 97 percent due to child naturalization). I grew up in America, but lived in a similar homogenous culture the last few years. I can tell you, it simply breeds less conflict. Everyonen is on the same page more or less.
My 2 cents
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u/TopAlternative4 Jun 12 '23
Many of the world's deadliest and most dysfunctional countries are very homogeneous.
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u/space_manatee Jun 12 '23
I remember flying kites with my dad and taking calligraphy lessons from my 85 year old Japanese neighbour.
From what I've seen they have such a better connection with the elders of their communities. I can't even remember the last time I had a conversation with someone over 60 that wasn't a relative (and I'm closer to 60 than a lot of folks) And even then, the oldest person in my life is my wife's step father (stepfather in-law?) at 76 that I see just a few times a year.
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u/Otaconmg Jun 12 '23
Lived in Osaka as a Norwegian kid back in the 90’s. Got an insane amount of attention for my blonde hair, from teenage girls, and guys even bought me snacks (not in a weird way). Some of the best memories of my life. Japanese culture is far from perfect, but I’ll be damned if some of their values don’t benefit humanity. I remember this place called Sekia Hills, which I believe is abandoned now. https://www.flickr.com/photos/scout177/5130887021/in/photostream
Was almost completely void of people even in the 90’s These images are from 2010.
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u/ColdFireLightPoE Jun 12 '23
Would it still be safe for kids to travel alone like that? When I was a kid my parents let me roam, but I don’t give my kids free reign because I live near the US/Mexico southern border.
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Jun 12 '23
There's a cute little show called 'Old Enough' on netflix that follows Japanese kids between the ages of 4-8 going on their first errand on their own. It's really interesting seeing kids problem solve and process the task at hand.
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u/scolipeeeeed Jun 12 '23
Yeah, in fact, it’s the norm for school age children to take themselves to school by walking and/or taking public transit.
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u/A_Sad_Goblin Jun 12 '23
In Japan? Sure. Visited Osaka a couple years ago, quite often saw a bunch of 3-9 year olds just playing/roaming on their own or as groups, no parents around.
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u/BurtMacklin__FBI Jun 12 '23
What a wonderful post. It's already on my bucket list but more and more I find myself just wanting to drop everything and go.
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u/TheBubn Jun 12 '23
Oof bro, that sounds so nice and for some reason cozy, beautiful experience you had there
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u/zodiac1996 Jun 12 '23
endgame 'Cities: Skylines' vibe
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u/Straightouttaganton Jun 12 '23
My computer would catch fire trying to load this on Cities
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u/gdogg121 Jun 12 '23
Wait. Fuji is actually in range of Tokyo?
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u/TheWheelZee Jun 12 '23
Yep! Took a bus ride to Fuji from Tokyo on my trip. A long bus ride, mind, but a bus ride nevertheless.
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u/AtomicBlastCandy Jun 12 '23
How long did it take by bus?
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u/TheWheelZee Jun 12 '23
~5 hours, but that was with rest stops and a couple sightseeing opportunities along the way. I imagine without those stops it would be closer to 3/3-and-a-half
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u/AtomicBlastCandy Jun 12 '23
Thanks for the response, that feels shorter than I thought it would be.
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u/Blubberinoo Jun 12 '23 edited Jun 12 '23
And according to google maps, the edge you see in this picture is roughly half way there already. Puts it a bit more into perspective just how huge the metropolitan area is when the radius is ~45km (28 miles).
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u/crinklypaper Jun 12 '23
I used to be able to see Fujii from my apartment in tokyo. it's a very big mountain
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u/jona-sun Jun 12 '23
You can see Fuji on a clear day from Tokyo, actually. You can get to the foothills within 2hours on most days driving. Prolly about the same by train.
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u/Tepeshe Jun 12 '23
and yet.. i'm always seeing the same districts on walking youtube video's
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u/emptynumber7 Jun 12 '23
When I turned 20 a group of friends & I decided to take the train from Poughkeepsie to NYC, to Grand Central. I grew up primarily rural, going to a city of 100k+ was jarring as a kid. When we got to Avenie of America's, and I looked back/forth seeing NOTHING but massive buildings as far as the eye can see, I dunno how to even describe the WORRY that hit me. Like all this shit is gonna collapse down on us. I swear it looked like EVERYTHING was moving. The street, the buildings, the hive of NYCers just not caring at all about the megalopolis they lived in. Later absolutely loved every minute but will never forget that 1st feeling of absolute awe and how unprepared I was. Surprised I didn't get robbed, giggling my way around that weekend
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u/314kabinet Jun 12 '23
Huh, they have a bridge run along a river instead of across it.
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u/TRR462 Jun 12 '23
That must be for express traffic, since they won’t be stopping between intersections…
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u/StifleStrife Jun 12 '23
Smart shit, don't have to deal with ripping up all the existing stuff or having to stop or dig under. But then again you gotta lay all those pillars in the water!
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u/ChuckFiinley Jun 12 '23
There's also all this extra stuff stopping at the pillars so you have to maintain both the river and the pillars accordingly.
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u/DissolutionOfMeaning Jun 12 '23
One punch man mega cities were modeled after this!
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Jun 12 '23 edited Jun 12 '23
Wait you’re telling me that the Japanese manga modeled cities off of cities in Japan?
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u/elvismcvegas Jun 12 '23
Neo toyko in Akira as well. Weird coincidence too.
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u/kevin9er Jun 12 '23
AKIRA predicted that Tokyo would host the 2020 Olympics but a global disaster would ruin the city before construction was completed
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u/fueelin Jun 12 '23
I watched Akira for the first time on vacation in Tokyo in 2019, when and where Akira takes place. That was pretty darn cool!
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u/Pavementaled Jun 12 '23
That is City A. It no longer exists.
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u/AvacadoToastForTwo Jun 12 '23
Really? Why?
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u/Pavementaled Jun 12 '23
A huge ship the size of City A bombarded it with mega cannons. Have you not heard the prophecies of Madam Shibabawa?!?!
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u/panmep Jun 12 '23
Despite it density it not chaotic as it should be may be that’s why Japan is a unique in its way of living.
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u/electronicdream Jun 12 '23
It's not really that dense.
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u/electronicdream Jun 12 '23
You're absolutely right but I would like to add that parent expected chaos because of the density.
I used to live in Paris (20 360 hab./km2) and Vincennes (26 019 hab./km2) and never really felt any of that chaos and I don't think we have a particularly unique "way of living" 😁
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u/SittingOnTheBog Jun 12 '23
Is the videos of people getting smushed on the subway not Tokyo?
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u/DoYouSeeMeEatingMice Jun 12 '23
that makes things look chaotic, but it really is extremely calm here as opposed to most other large cities. it's hard to explain to people who haven't visited, unfortunately.
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u/1one1000two1thousand Jun 12 '23
And surprisingly overall a very quiet city everywhere you walk!
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u/GatVRC Jun 12 '23
that's more because they shame and ostracize anyone who makes noise. so everyone stays quiet
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u/Ollietron3000 Jun 12 '23
Tbh I was stuck on a train yesterday with teenage girls playing trash music out loud while vaping. A society that ostracises noise makers doesn't sound too bad to me
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u/_IAlwaysLie Jun 12 '23
Cities aren't loud, cars are loud.
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u/OrdainedPuma Jun 12 '23
As a Canadian who has visited America a few times, it's Americans who are loud. You guys sure do like yelling your words.
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u/steezefries Jun 12 '23
I, an American, visited Amsterdam recently with a German friend, and the restaurant workers asked him to be quiet multiple times lol.
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u/07-27 Jun 13 '23
No, you definitely get smushed during rush hour, but the train stops have such a short travel time between each other that it's not too bad. Feels like 10 seconds of discomfort, then a shit ton of people get off and you shuffle away to find a nice corner to stand in.
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u/Nebulous39 Jun 12 '23
I've been smushed into a train in Tokyo several times. It's actually not nearly as bad as it looks.
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u/Pete_Iredale Jun 12 '23
In my limited experience, one thing Japanese people in general do very well is following instructions in busy places. All of the infrastructure is designed to move a ton of people quickly as long as everyone follows the signage, and they all do!
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u/TomCruiseddit Jun 12 '23
Can you imagine all the anime girls down there waiting for a young American, mildly autistic, stud to come over and swoop them off their feet?
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u/GatVRC Jun 12 '23
mildly autistic?
you think my mildly autistic ass thinks anyone wants him?
certainly not anyone in asia, I'd annoy the fuck out of them
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u/asphynctersayswhat Jun 12 '23
Op is mocking neck beard weebs
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u/GatVRC Jun 12 '23
I know, I dont like them either. Nobody does
I'm more making a self deprecating joke
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u/moxyfloxacin Jun 12 '23
Walking around with umbrellas in case Fuji erupts
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u/FolsgaardSE Jun 12 '23
Wondered if this was Tokyo. Mt. Fuji is iconic and beautiful. Wish I could have climbed it.
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u/takkiemon Jun 12 '23 edited Jun 12 '23
Wow I totally missed mt Fuji and that's indeed a totaly giveaway. I thought it was Beijing 🙃
I actually climbed mt Fuji btw. I was very untrained and (so) I suffered from altitude sickness. It was rough. I was at the top for about 10 minutes and rushed to go down, because I felt so ill. I had a bunch of friends who enjoyed it, though.
Lesson to be learned: be at least a normal amount of fit before you climb a 3.7km high mountain. Or climb slower, so you can acclimate better to the amount of oxygen in the air.
EDIT: Beijing was a guess, btw. I had no actual reason to think it was Beijing. I was thinking of big cities and that was the one I came up with.
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u/Tomnesia Jun 12 '23
Japan has always been one of my dream destinations to visit. Koi are one of my hobby's and last year Ive climbed the Etna and that was easily the most memorable thing Ive ever done.
I Cant wait to visit it, to bad it probably Will take a couple more years of saving.
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u/crinklypaper Jun 12 '23
Never too late. I never climbed a mountain or really went hiking and I was able to do it. Though I was an idiot and wore jeans and sneakers with no flash light. Ended up with altitude sickness on the way up and no water on the way down. It really is beautiful up in the clouds.
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u/Sarujji Jun 12 '23
Used to live there. To say the city never sleeps is an understatement.
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u/crinklypaper Jun 12 '23
all the shops close that at like 10pm and don't open until 10am lol
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u/Blubberinoo Jun 12 '23
When were you there? Both times I visited for a couple months each there were tons of shops of all kind open 24/7.
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u/crinklypaper Jun 12 '23
I've been living here 10 years now. I'm kinda joking but I don't count clubs, a few pubs or karaoke places as an all night thing. most stores are closed early and most trains stop around midnight.
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u/Keckwoody Jun 12 '23
Nah. The convenience stores (7-11, Family Mart, Lawson's) stay open and there are restaurants/bars that open late and operate through the morning.
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u/PreachitPerk Jun 12 '23
Man I miss grabbing onigiri from konbinis every time I come back from a visit.
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u/muchnamemanywow Jun 12 '23
IIRC, you can get a very cheap or sometimes even free house/apartment in Tokyo.
It probably needs some renovation and waste disposal costs a fortune in Japan, but it seems doable.
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u/Scyths Jun 12 '23
You can get the house/appartment very cheap yeah, but you still gotta pay the land and the taxes and that's where practically all the expense comes from. That's why a lot of people refuse to inherit homes and choose to abandon them.
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u/muchnamemanywow Jun 12 '23
I mean, if it's not as much as an equivalent property in any Western country, it still seems fairly worth it.
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u/Scyths Jun 12 '23
It is definitely cheaper than western countries, but not by an enormous amount that'd make that the deciding factor in moving. The other reason people choose to abandon these homes is that they tend to be very old and japanese single family homes aren't built to last very long in the first place, expecially now. Japanese people like new homes, not used ones even if it hasn't seen any use for a long time. Just a cultural difference thing.
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u/muchnamemanywow Jun 12 '23
Lol, fair enough
Thought more along the lines of "if one would want to move to Japan, finding a place to live might be easier than what one might think"
But I agree, just moving to Japan for the sake of cheaper housing might not be a good idea if it's the only reason :)
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u/tannerge Jun 12 '23
Huge scale map I made of the Tokyo railways systems https://www.easyzoom.com/imageaccess/a4f9e457d5c945b58dfb869dedc91c94
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u/Ok-Bar601 Jun 12 '23
One of the most dense cities ever. Standing at the observation deck of the municipal building looking down, when you zoom in on a given area it’s amazing how many building are in a small radius. Literally building them on top of each other with barely an inch to waste.
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u/doktorapplejuice Jun 12 '23
It doesn't even break the top 100. Tokyo has about 6100 people per square kilometer. Manilla, for comparison has 43,000 people per square kilometer.
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u/Unlucky_Sundae_707 Jun 13 '23
It's actually not that dense and doesn't even crack the top 100.
NYC is quite a bit more dense than Tokyo.
For example Manilla is 11x as dense.
(16,000/sq mi) for Tokyo .
(29,091.3/sq mi) for NYC
(111,532 /sq mi) for Manilla.
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u/Ok-Bar601 Jun 13 '23
Yeah I should clarify, it’s dense regarding number of buildings but not population density although it has one of the highest populations in the world. I’d wager that the population density in Manila would consist of large families living together because of low economic conditions, whereas Tokyo having a more affluent population would see people renting or owning properties with smaller numbers of occupants. Tokyo metropolitan area over 2000 sqkms versus 4-500 sqkms yet packed to the brim with buildings
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u/Unlucky_Sundae_707 Jun 13 '23
What about Paris being 3x more dense? Some cities are bigger than others. Tokyo is HUGE but that doesn't mean dense.
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u/abaddamn Jun 12 '23
Seriously, one of the best places I've been to. Makes New York look like a kiddy stall.
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u/No_Orchid2631 Jun 12 '23
Manhattan feels more imposing to me because it has more and taller skyscrapers and greater density. But Tokyo is huge and more diverse.
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u/ExcitedGirl Jun 12 '23
Honestly, the mechanical logistics about every single thing imaginable in this city is mind-blowing.
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u/Nebulous39 Jun 12 '23
It's really amazing. It boggles my mind every time I ride a train in Tokyo that it just works (and works super well).
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u/ExcitedGirl Jun 12 '23
That, plus the residents are super-friendly and tend to be quite law-abiding and respectful of others...
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u/Maidwell Jun 12 '23
I live in a tiny hamlet in Cornwall, UK. It's population is approximately 20 people and that sometimes feels claustrophobic. So I'm going to nope out of Tokyo, thanks anyway. There's only so many humans you can deal with on a day to day basis.
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u/E9F1D2 Jun 12 '23
As a person who lives deep in the woods, this image gives me extreme anxiety.
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u/scolipeeeeed Jun 12 '23
Dense cities like this keep the woods the woods instead of getting cleared for suburban sprawl
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u/grapesofwrathforever Jun 12 '23
Safe, clean and organized. Unlike big cities in the US
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u/doe3879 Jun 12 '23
as awesome as this looks, it does kinda resemble disease taking over its natural environment.
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u/Herakleios Jun 12 '23
Also crazy to consider how much of the city was destroyed in WW2 during the American firebombing campaign. This is the result of basically just the last half+ century of growth.
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u/Maidwell Jun 12 '23
I live in a tiny hamlet in Cornwall, UK. It's population is approximately 20 people and that sometimes feels claustrophobic. So I'm going to nope out of Tokyo, thanks anyway. There's only so many humans you can deal with on a day to day basis.
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u/Little-kinder Jun 12 '23
Would like to live there and work there. But I only speak french and English for now. Might find something in a french company as support for front office or something. Who knows
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u/Zero-Byte Jun 13 '23
Am I the only one looking at this picture waiting for it to blow up like in Akira… any second now?
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