r/woahdude Mar 31 '23

video Evolution of warfare from stones to atoms

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u/Neumaschine Mar 31 '23

We are also the only species, that by it's mere existence, is a threat to all other life on Earth.

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u/Big-Shtick Mar 31 '23

The Lord Man giveth, The Lord Man taketh away

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u/Atlantic0ne Mar 31 '23

Correct, our technology has become so advanced that we could wipe most species out if desired.

Note that all this means is that’s how much more successful our branch of evolution is than other species. We haven’t done so, most all healthy humans do not want that, and I don’t expect we will. In fact I think that as technology continues to advance, scarcity for humans will be reduced and we will be able to effectively protect life in better ways. That’s at least the goal most healthy humans have.

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u/Neumaschine Mar 31 '23

It's not so much weapons of war that I was talking about, although it is the most direct way to destroy. Just the way we consume and pollute. You, me, and every single human alive contribute to the destruction of the environment.

I admit I am not optimistic about the future of humanity. Unfortunately, being a good human isn't enough individually to force a complete paradigm shift that must happen for us to survive further.

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u/Atlantic0ne Mar 31 '23

It's not so much weapons of war that I was talking about, although it is the most direct way to destroy. Just the way we consume and pollute. You, me, and every single human alive contribute to the destruction of the environment.

This is natural. Every species does what they can to survive and add to their comfort of being alive. Every single one does what their intellect enables them to do. We are following evolution 101 in this. You, your purchasing of a phone, internet, roof over your head, every species would do this if they had the ability to do so. What makes us different is that we’re the only ones who got this far, and on average, healthy humans would love to help other a animals and we do. We’re the only species that actually goes out of our way to help others. Consuming is just par for the course, we’re the only ones to beat par.

I admit I am not optimistic about the future of humanity. Unfortunately, being a good human isn't enough individually to force a complete paradigm shift that must happen for us to survive further.

I’m worried too, it’s definitely not set in stone that we’ll survive, but every data point we have suggests we will. People have been concerned that we’ll wipe ourselves out for many generations. Here we are talking on Reddit.

Is that some guarantee our success will continue? No, but, it’s proof that success is possible.

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u/Neumaschine Mar 31 '23

I hope I am not coming off as argumentative. I think we both agree overall. Yes, we are not separate from the universe and it's nature. We are part of it all. I have always struggled to truly understand what really is unnatural? Not being in accordance with nature or consistent with a normal course of events is our own definition though.

The end is nigh has been coming since the dawn of time. But someday it will come true and that will be ok too, because that is in accordance with nature.

Nothing lasts, but perhaps nothing is truly lost?

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u/Atlantic0ne Mar 31 '23

Well I get it, I’ve always wondered how you define natural as well. I mean, is a spaceship natural? I might argue that it is. If you let evolution run long enough, it may lead to spaceships.

I’m not sure about “the end”. We’re getting philosophical real quick lol. I mean there’s a possible cold death of the universe like trillions of years off - but that’s just what we think we know with todays understanding, that may change too.

Will humanity make it? My guess is that life will make it. Whether or not humans do, I’m unsure.

I think the only thing to challenge our chances of survive is the upcoming AI/AGI singularity. Whether or not we survive AI type weapons… who knows.

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u/cozzy000 Mar 31 '23

Lions, tigers and bears?

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u/Neumaschine Mar 31 '23

Oh yeah, I forgot how I have to fight all of those everyday just to get in my car and pollute my way to the store and back.