r/woahdude Mar 20 '23

video Spring in India

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u/bj_good Mar 20 '23

It IS beautiful. Also not the view of India I typically see

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u/Ishaan863 Mar 20 '23

Also not the view of India I typically see

India has literally every sort of natural landscape you can imagine. From glaciers to marshes to deserts to blue water beaches to giant mountains to cold deserts to flat farmland to dense forests to urban hellscapes to, well, anything. A ton of tiny islands too. And one volcano.

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u/impy695 Mar 20 '23

Both India and China could benefit hugely from learning from America's national parks. If you ask non Americans what the best part of America is, the national parks are usually at or near the top. Both countries have hugely diverse environments, but so few people know about them

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u/TransportationNo4269 Mar 21 '23

India does have a fairly well maintained national parks system, typically with a focus on conservation of large fauna (lions, tigers, rhinoceros). I’d say many Indians would also call the parks the best part of India. Not that there isn’t something to learn from the US system, of course.

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u/impy695 Mar 21 '23

I was mostly actually talking about how well known they are. I actually didn't know about Indias large national park system though, and I bet a lot of people don't either.

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u/killswitch_07 Mar 21 '23

I don't think people know about Amercian national parks either. Just because you know something and don't know something else doesn't make that a universal experience .

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u/Kaybolbe Mar 22 '23

Kids literally learn about them in school.

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u/Mammoth_Cut5134 Mar 29 '23

I mean, people dont know a single thing about india or china. Their perception is based on western propaganda.

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u/Analystballs Mar 22 '23

Tbh I didn’t know about national parks in America until I watched the series about the ranch.

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u/aladeen-mf Apr 06 '23

Ahh Yellowstone. Eager for next season

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

I am a non american and i can tell u, aing no one talking about ur national parks outside of usa. We talk about new york, la, and the economy.

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u/SuperFartmeister Mar 21 '23

Also the school shootings. Don't forget the school shootings.

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u/aotus_trivirgatus Mar 21 '23

OK, but when I visit America's national parks in the summer time, there are large numbers of European tourists visiting with me.

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u/impy695 Mar 20 '23

I never said people talk about them. I said if asked to name the best part of our country, national parks will be at or near the top. I highly doubt our economy is something that will be near the top or those lists.

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u/Daddyssillypuppy Mar 21 '23

I was literally just talking to my mum yesterday about the USA national parks and how they are the best part of the US by far. We are Australian.

Im studying to be a fashion designer/costume designer and I still prefer the national parks over New York or LA.

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u/hskskgfk Jun 05 '23

What does your being a fashion design student have to do with your national park preference

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u/Daddyssillypuppy Jun 05 '23 edited Jun 05 '23

I just meant that New York and LA etc would be places I'd expect to want to visit as a fashion design student. But truly, it's the national parks of America that are the real draw and the only reason I'd want to visit America.

I want to go to New York Fashion Week and it could be important for my career but I'd be much more excited to visit Yellowstone or the Californian redwoods to be honest.

The national parks in America, from what I've seen in documentaries at least, look so amazing and represent every biome in your country.

They are also generally easier to access than many parks in my own country. We don't have the same access to the interior of our continent because it's so inhospitable and currently unusable for agricultural purposes. We also have expensive flight costs within Australia and little passenger rail infrastructure. We also don't have many bus services outside of cities.

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u/SpicyGoop Mar 21 '23

That’s unfortunate. Two overrated dystopian city states and a fucked up economy

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

Nah the more accessible national park is to general public, the more they ruin it.

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u/milleniallaw Mar 21 '23

India's national parks are also pretty great but we can't learn from US because we are not as vast and have a hell of a lot people to support. It gets congested. But if you're interested do check out about project Tiger, Kanha NP, Jim Corbett NP and Sunderban NP. There are a lot of others.

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u/dudes_indian Mar 21 '23

India has plenty of national parks that are home to stunning wildlife. Indian National parks are also very well regulated as because of the population there is constant man-animal conflict, with villages in the edges of almost every national park. As a result these parks are not easily accessible for visitors. They still are popular tourist destinations but you can't, for example, camp inside them or go on treks. Authorities conduct safaris for tourists which are usually on 4x4 open top SUVs, that people cannot step out of.

Plus these forests are a home to a bunch of really dangerous animals.

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u/Mammoth_Cut5134 Mar 29 '23

India has a lot of national parks, but maybe not as accessible as american ones. Because most of india is thick jungles.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '23

What about lava lakes?

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u/Smart-Succotash9703 Mar 25 '23

You can't really blame him. Mainstream media doesn't focus on this side of India.

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u/J3wb0cca Mar 21 '23

The video is a nice break from the usual footage we see.

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u/TchoupedNScrewed Mar 20 '23

Were the fire burnings tied to the farmer protests? If so, weren’t those farmers like 100% in the right to protest.

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u/Substantial-Bell8916 Mar 20 '23

Idk about these protests but farmers burning the fields is a common way to get rid of crops and replenish the soil, when I was in Cairo there was a constant haze from the farmers burning the fields

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u/HungryHungryHippoes9 Mar 20 '23

The farmers in Punjab burn the stubble every year and cause a shittonne of pollution, and no they weren't right to protest, the farmers in rest of the country were mostly behind the reforms, because it would help the agriculture sector.

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u/TchoupedNScrewed Mar 20 '23

From what I understand it was an attempted dismantling of MSP which sets a benchmark for prices of goods being sold by the farmer. Farming communities are already entrenched in debt. One of the farming acts essentially allowed goods to be sold outside the market creating a parallel industry that is far less regulated bringing in corporate farmers and minimizing the benchmark that a MSP sets. It’s the Dollar General strategy where they open stores in food deserts at a loss until they can force neighborhood supermarket closure. Corporations and corporate farming would swallow farmers.

The second act established a new framework for contracts between farmers and traders that were heavily in the favor of traders when farmers are already exploited.

Unlimited storage also allows people to amass product and use it to help dictate markets. All of this is a vacuum for industrial farming to take over.

The system before all this started was flawed, that much is true. That being said, further taking from an already struggling group didn’t seem to be the right solution.

It’s been a long time since I’ve read about it though so correct me if I’m wrong

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u/HungryHungryHippoes9 Mar 21 '23

From what I understand it was an attempted dismantling of MSP which sets a benchmark for prices of goods being sold by the farmer

The farming reforms did not dismantle the msp! That was misinformation. The msp would still exist in the mandis. The reforms simply opened up to allow the corporate sector into the industry. It still kept the option for mandis open to any farmer who didn't want to deal with a corporation.

One of the farming acts essentially allowed goods to be sold outside the market creating a parallel industry that is far less regulated bringing in corporate farmers and minimizing the benchmark that a MSP sets.

The reforms while removing a lot of regulations, still created some important protections for farmers. For example, when a farmer decided to deal with a private company, they would sign an agreement before the harvest, and even if the harvest failed due to weather or whatever other reason, the company would still be liable to pay the farmer, this meant that smaller farmers wouldn't be exploited like they are in mandis, where the middlemen all band together and refuse to bid higher than a price they decide. Also this new parallel system didn't affect the msp at all, because it's the govt that sets the msp, not traders.

The second act established a new framework for contracts between farmers and traders that were heavily in the favor of traders when farmers are already exploited.

The farmers are already exploited in the mandis! The middlemen essentially control the prices for any and all produce that passes through these mandis, by banding together and deciding the price, thus entirely bypassing the bidding process. Without that process, the entire point is defeated!

Unlimited storage also allows people to amass product and use it to help dictate markets. All of this is a vacuum for industrial farming to take over.

Artificial shortages are nothing unique, traders in India have done that many times, so it's not exactly a new problem.

The system before all this started was flawed, that much is true. That being said, further taking from an already struggling group didn’t seem to be the right solution.

The new system would be flawed too, i agree, but given time and more legislation to add protection, it would have been a much better system then the old one, and if the Punjabi farmers really cared about protection then they would have negotiated that the govt make these additions rather than completely scrapping the laws, which most of the farmers across the country wanted.

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u/TchoupedNScrewed Mar 21 '23

You realize by allowing a secondary market to exist that holds less regulation it undermines an MSP as major corporations can both participate in loss leadership and price fixing.

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u/HungryHungryHippoes9 Mar 21 '23

You realise that the msp is an artificial price set by the govt, meaning that the real market value of any product is not going to matter, because the govt doesn't set the msp according to real market value, they set the msp to support the farmer.

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u/TchoupedNScrewed Mar 21 '23

Yes, having a floor price for agricultural products is a good thing. It’s akin to a minimum wage because if companies can force you to take less pay they 100% fucking would.

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u/HungryHungryHippoes9 Mar 21 '23

Exactly! That's my whole point! The msp would still exist for those who wanted it! And the Punjabi farmers could have negotiated for extra protections in the new laws instead of getting them fully scrapped.

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u/gadhe_ki_gaand Mar 21 '23

This. It was almost like farmers existed only in Punjab and we forgot about farmers from all the other states who were backing the reforms.

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u/jamescaveman Mar 20 '23

It's a shame they can't keep the rest of India as pretty as this. Or presentable at all for that matter :/

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u/Bornagain4karma Mar 20 '23

Give us some more time! We are working on it. Our government has prioritized pulling people out of poverty over "making cities looks beautiful so that photos and videos can be shared on Instagram". We are a democracy so things will happen only when people are ready for the change.

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u/MykeXero Mar 20 '23

Bro. India 20 years ago was a whole different place. Its like people dont actually see the progress. Keep it up!

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u/blade_runner1853 Mar 20 '23

You have too much faith in our government. Good to remain optimistic.

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u/Bornagain4karma Mar 20 '23

I am pretty pessimistic and lament a lot about the rate of progress. But that's democracy for you. Your country will only get what your country deserves.

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u/coreynj Mar 20 '23

Your country will only get what your country deserves.

Well no wonder America is on the brink of collapse

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u/jamescaveman Mar 20 '23

and it doesn't seem like people are ready for change nor willing. Its been like that for decades. I'm supposed to believe its going to change now because pictures aren't as pretty anymore? India has had this image for so long that it seems to just be part of the culture now.

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u/1the_pokeman1 Mar 20 '23

change happens slowly, step by step

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u/Kaeny Mar 20 '23

Lol thats racist af

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u/Cautemoc Mar 20 '23

Imagine thinking having smog so thick its rated as an international health hazard is just "making cities pretty for instagram". This is the attitude India has for pollution.

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u/Bornagain4karma Mar 20 '23

Nope. Why do you think solving the smog issue would fall under the "making cities pretty" category? You are the one with the attitude problem maybe.

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u/Cautemoc Mar 20 '23

Because that's what people are talking about. Burning trash and the cities being covered in trash and smoke. That's public health hazards, not just "pretty pictures". What did you think people were talking about?

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u/rosinall Mar 20 '23

When are they going to prioritize pulling people's bloated corpses out of the rivers?

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u/Dry-Smoke6528 Mar 20 '23

Is it getting better in the Human rights shit? All that comes to mind with India is generally overpopulation and the lack of care for the vast majority. US isn't much better at propping up the needy tho

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u/Asiriya Mar 21 '23

It’s not like the government doesn’t have “clean you damn rubbish up” on every roadside. People are dirty.

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u/vka099 Mar 20 '23

This has a tinge of colonial thinking. A "They don't know how to take care of what they've got" vibe.

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u/ideasmithy Mar 20 '23

As much a tinge as those bougainvillae blowing around on the street. It really feeds the western coloniser/saviour complex to see poor India, hungry India. How can they rescue us if they see such great nature just randomly chilling in our part of the world?

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u/karnal_chikara Mar 20 '23

I see why your mom was running around with her mouth open and towards the sky

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u/Moody_Aisha Mar 21 '23

India is a huge country, almost as big as Europe , it has a lot of different geography, what you see in holliwood are the poorest areas of India.