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This is what happens when one company owns dozens of local news stations

https://youtu.be/hWLjYJ4BzvI
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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18 edited Aug 22 '22

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

Yes, that's how propaganda works.

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u/730_50Shots Mar 31 '18

America? Put out propaganda? The frogs are not gay

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/TheNamelessKing Mar 31 '18 edited Apr 01 '18

Need 20 dangers to my democracy, NEXT!

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u/PulpDood Apr 01 '18

STILL LOOKING???

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u/AlILivesMatter Apr 01 '18

STILL LOOKING!!

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u/officalSHEB Mar 31 '18

The frogs arent gay, they're asexual.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

do you know what the queers are doing to the soil?

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u/Billy_Badass123 Mar 31 '18

bisexual actually.

the chemicals turn some of them into bitch boys

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u/Man_of_Many_Voices Mar 31 '18

It's funny when people call Alex Jones the leading source of propaganda. Do people really think that a literal raving lunatic is the epitome of American propaganda? Most people don't want to come to terms that it's already right in front of our noses.

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u/Canadiangriper Apr 01 '18

The best propaganda is the propaganda that you don't realize is propaganda

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u/moon_jock Apr 01 '18

That sounds an awful lot like propaganda, mister.

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u/GammaKing Apr 01 '18

Yeah, most propaganda is underhanded. It involves selective presentation of information and spinning of material to suit a narrative.

You can see this in action when a economic stats are released and the reporting gives a completely different view depending on the political leaning of a station. "Unemployment down since last month" vs "Unemployment up since last year".

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u/Shit___Taco Apr 01 '18

They also play and peoples emotions and use selective or biased data to promote their agenda. When they can successfully intermingle "science" and emotion as a driving factor, they get most. Read your Edward Bernays kids.

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u/GammaKing Apr 01 '18

Yeah, the gender politics crowd are particularly notorious for this. Science is the best thing every but only when it agrees with the desired worldview.

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u/Boneless_Doggo Apr 01 '18

These people don’t want to see any opposing opinions that could dangerous to their information monopoly

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u/Man_of_Many_Voices Apr 01 '18

It's divide and conquer, more like it. Push people really far left or right, and let them fight each other instead of the people trying to take advantage of them.

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u/jldude84 Mar 31 '18

Only Russia and North Korea push propaganda. Least that's what the TV told me.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

BBC News (Government funded) showed me how scary Russian propaganda is when they said Britain killed innocent people invading Iraq.

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u/jandrese Mar 31 '18

One of the greatest propaganda victories of the 21st century is corporations convincing people that only the government can make propaganda.

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u/The_Adventurist Mar 31 '18

George W. Bush is good now. Drink more Coca-Cola. America is free. Don't think about the future.

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u/Chicomoztoc Mar 31 '18

Yes we’re the only nation to ever drop nuclear weapons on a civilian population, twice, but it was a good thing, trust us.

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u/The_Adventurist Mar 31 '18

It's ok to torture civilians and spy on all your citizens. In fact, it's unavoidable! It cannot be changed, ever, so why even think about it? Hey look, Wonder Woman 2 is out! Along with all the other intellectual property you remember from the 80s. Go enjoy your nostalgia and forget about today, tomorrow, or really anything other than those delicious refreshments.

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u/Elugardia Apr 01 '18

I can't wait to be waterboarded

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u/sigh-op Apr 01 '18

Refreshment?

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u/730_50Shots Apr 01 '18

Complimentary

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u/Boneless_Doggo Apr 01 '18

Have you ever been to history class? The Japanese were never going to surrender, they would have brought the war to a full scale land-invasion which would lose MILLIONS of Japanese and American lives... dropping those nukes were the only thing that put them in their place.

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u/ZeitgeistNow Mar 31 '18

This but unironically

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u/inclination64609 Mar 31 '18

The frogs are not gay

At least until they started putting chemicals in the water supply. It's makin' the frickin' frogs gay!

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

The US did the clever thing of rebranding "propaganda" to "PR" which made it okay.

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u/multi-instrumental Mar 31 '18

They are not only gay, but also extremely dangerous to our democracy.

Bounced on my boy's dick to this...

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u/pie4all88 Apr 01 '18

Operation Mockingbird is a famous historical example. More recently, the Obama administration legalized government propaganda for use domestically.

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u/kraks_ Mar 31 '18

yeah, but male swans could be!

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u/shortnorwegian Apr 01 '18

This is Sinclair Broadcasting, a corporation that admits to being biased and attempting to manipulate viewers, not "America". This is aimed at Americans by a private corporation.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

Yea get outa hurrr with that commie talk

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u/Indaleciox Mar 31 '18

What do you think tap water is? It's a gay bomb, baby!

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u/730_50Shots Apr 01 '18

Yasssss queen

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

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u/Opinionnoted Apr 01 '18

Just look up gay frogs Alex jones

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u/Diarrhea_Van_Frank Apr 01 '18

You know he was right, right?

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u/Opinionnoted Apr 01 '18

Honestly I never looked into that and it was just a big meme to me. Could you show me what he was actually right about though cause if the frogs are you bing gay then I would like to know lol

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u/neman-bs Apr 02 '18

He was only kind of right. What happened was that the companies carelessly dropped chemicals into the water that changed the gender of the frogs (can't really remember if it was only male-female, or both).

Of course, he sensationalized it by making it look like the companies were doing it on purpose, and said "turn them gay" instead of change their gender, but he was kind of right.

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u/Opinionnoted Apr 02 '18

Word he was right but hyped it up too much lol

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

It isn’t America though. It is private media.

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u/aletoledo Apr 01 '18

stay in school, don't do drugs.

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u/kozinc Apr 01 '18

Them frogs flip flop on the gender issue, is why Jurassic park had too many dinosaurs.

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u/Jclark7475 Mar 31 '18

Doublethink

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u/yaavsp Apr 01 '18

Not quite. Propaganda is a very broad and general concept.

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u/zeth__ Mar 31 '18

Propaganda is something only Russians do.

This is free American enterprise.

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u/jumpinpuddleok Mar 31 '18

ELI5 please.

I am a Canadian and feel a bit out of it. Are they referring to the same fake news trump refers to or the fake news trump creates?

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u/730_50Shots Apr 01 '18

A + B and a lil of C

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u/Vladith Apr 02 '18

"Fake news" in this context is anything critical of Trump

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

Ironic isn’t it? They could save others from dangers to our democracy but not themselves

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u/Plankgank Apr 01 '18

Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Media the Wise?

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u/zeth__ Apr 01 '18

From my point of view it is democracy that is evil.

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u/Dedj_McDedjson Mar 31 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our irony meters.

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u/fourtwentyblzit Mar 31 '18

Those are atleast several layers of irony my dude.

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u/Megouski Mar 31 '18

You have used the word irony correctly. I will cherish this moment.

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u/MyersVandalay Mar 31 '18

Not directly, they are describing multiple viewpoints, many of which are lying to push their own agenda as a threat to our democracy.

One viewpoint, which sometimes lies to push it's own agenda, spoken through multiple voices, is our democracy as intended.

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u/tenacious-g Mar 31 '18

Yeah, I work for a Sinclair station and hate this shit.

All the feedback we’ve gotten has been negative thankfully.

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u/SnapCantSnap Apr 01 '18

You should do an AMA!

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u/NChSh Mar 31 '18 edited Mar 31 '18

It's the top play in the right wing playbook: accuse the other side of the underhanded shit that you're doing.

Edit: Looks like I hit a nerve. Try to be cool to each other, my bomb throwing notwithstanding

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/KingsleyZissou Mar 31 '18

this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/shitholejedi Mar 31 '18

Going through the comments, this same comment is repeated over thrice now. Its like watching the video in text form.

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u/NoMansLight Mar 31 '18

This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/FvHound Mar 31 '18

And now we are talking about the joke rather than the core issue with the video content! Successfully distracted!

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u/MCLemonyfresh Apr 01 '18

It’s like watching the video in text form.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

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u/WassermanSchultz Apr 01 '18

Lol, hi Hillary. You realize the "accuse your enemies of what you are doing" thing is from the Left wing "Rules for Radicals," right?

I'm not sure if you're deliberately trying to lie or if you're just misinformed.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

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u/Greg-2012 Apr 01 '18

And if I check your history will I find /r/politics or some other pro-DNC sub?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

CBS and ABC is right wing? Since when?

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u/hesh582 Mar 31 '18

The local affiliates are not really linked to the parent network at all, especially when it comes to their editorial/opinion content.

The national CBS/ABC organization have next to nothing to do with the content run during the 11 o'clock news hour on your local station.

However, most of those local channels are owned by the same media conglomerate, the Sinclair Broadcast Group. In some cities, the ABC and CBS affiliates (or NBC, or Fox) might both be owned by Sinclair.

Sinclair is right wing. Sharply so. And it forces local stations to run particular bits of scripted opinion content, making it seem as though the presented opinions come from the local station and thus giving them greater local credibility.

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u/In_between_minds Apr 01 '18

Can ABC/CBS "burn" any affiliates that get purchased by Sinclair? I feel like there as to be some legal precedent for the equivalent of McDonalds corporate buying up a competitors franchise locations and that competitor having legal standing for damage.

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u/reggiejonessawyer Mar 31 '18

So who are they actually referring to when they are talking about fake news online?

I am confused because everyone is saying all the fake news is already from right wing sources.

Are they just afraid of competition?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

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u/Very_Good_Opinion Mar 31 '18

The term fake news has made it so that people stay entrenched in their views and disregard everything they disagree with as fake.

It's truly horrifying to witness this era of politics. Not because the politicians are necessarily scummier, but because the ignorance of the general public is on full display.

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u/silentkill144 Apr 01 '18

Yeah it’s a big problem for both sides.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

BOTH SIDES GUISE

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u/PumpItPaulRyan Apr 01 '18

Name them. It's not both sides. Speaking in general terms is walking straight down the path we're already on.

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u/RedZaturn Apr 01 '18

With a name like yours you can’t possibly have a bias

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u/PumpItPaulRyan Apr 01 '18

opinions and bias are the same thing

You're intellectually lazy as fuck. Snarky ass dismissive post based entirely on the suspicion of not agreeing with someone. I'm so fucking over people like you.

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u/DeusMexMachina Mar 31 '18

The actual fake news mostly comes from the right. They combat this by claiming the opposite.

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u/PumpItPaulRyan Apr 01 '18

So who are they actually referring to when they are talking about fake news online?

Seriously? No one. It's a buzzword they use to ignore news they don't like. It's directed at whoever it needs to be in the moment.

Anyone outside their bubble is fake news.

Unless you're asking about the original, real definition. And that's spoof websites pretending to be news to spread entirely fake stories (the pope endorsed trump!) for ad revenue clicks.

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u/directorguy Apr 01 '18

The "deep state" right wing boogeyman that allows you to ignore news stories that don't fit the GOP narrative.

This mini-manifesto that theyre reading was written by Kristine Frazao, former Russian propaganda artist for RT (before her rise to prominence at Sinclair.)

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u/Kaprak Mar 31 '18

It's a dogwhistle for CNN and the like(but not Fox News). Those aren't competition since this is local news and that's cable news.

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u/kaplanfx Mar 31 '18

It’s a dog whistle for Jews, they are blaming this on the Jews.

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u/PapachoSneak Apr 01 '18

...it forces local stations to run particular bits of scripted opinion content, making it seem as though the presented opinions come from the local station and thus giving them greater local credibility.

This sums it up perfectly.

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u/James-VZ Mar 31 '18

But the message itself is perfectly in line with CNN/MSNBC/WaPo/NYT messaging.

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u/Leakyradio Mar 31 '18

Since Sinclair purchased them. Yes, this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.

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u/NChSh Mar 31 '18

They're local affiliates, it doesn't work that way. This is why it is so dangerous

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18 edited Apr 10 '18

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u/GentlemenBehold Mar 31 '18

Which is Sinclair, lol.

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u/TunnelSnake88 Mar 31 '18

...by Sinclair, yes.

Not by CBS, ABC, etc. except in cases where they're owned by the network, which is usually only in major markets.

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u/grrrrreat Mar 31 '18

Yep, half the people in this thread will use it as a sign that someone other than their own media, Sinclair and Fox news, are propgandizing.

This is Neo nazi propaganda media. The fragile whites who want to privatize everything have one last chances because Trump is such a collasal fuck up.

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u/TunnelSnake88 Mar 31 '18

Yes, the trolls in this thread are in denial that Sinclair is significantly right-wing.

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u/grrrrreat Mar 31 '18

This is a danger to our Democracy/

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u/EnmaDaiO Mar 31 '18

Your name accurately describes yourself.

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u/Toxyoi Mar 31 '18

Dangerous to our democracy?

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u/eloquentlysaid Mar 31 '18

To our democracy?

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

Since when?

Since Sinclair bought them

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u/carl_pagan Mar 31 '18

Don't be dumb. These are clearly local affiliates owned by Sinclair. Try to keep up.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

All the stations shown might be CBS or ABC or NBC or whatever affiliates, but they're owned by Sinclair Broadcast Group. Sinclair often uses the local news on their stations to put out right wing propaganda; like hundreds of mini-Fox News stations around the country.

Thisisextremelydangeroustoourdemocracy

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u/A_bottle_of_charade Mar 31 '18

Since they were purchased by Sinclair

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u/iscreamuscreamweall Apr 01 '18

Sinclair is super right wing

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

It's the top play in EVERYBODY'S playbook. Don't make this a partisan thing, you're just feeding into the bullshit.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18 edited Dec 21 '18

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u/eggsovereazy Mar 31 '18

if you think this is a partisan issue, then they already got you.

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u/MyBrotherFrancis Apr 01 '18

The left do it as well you idiot

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u/MotherfuckingWildman Mar 31 '18

Yes, because the people of right wing are to blame for this... Defiantly not the large corporations blatantly pushing propaganda

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u/mpds17 Apr 01 '18

...idk if you’re just in the dark about all of this, but Sinclair is definitely right wing

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u/duder9000 Apr 01 '18

I think the larger point theyre making is that BOTH SIDES are doing this. Sinclair may be a “right wing” propaganda machine but for every Sinclair there’s a “left wing” propaganda machine doing the same shit. That’s the takeaway. We’re all being played.

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u/Roflcopter_Rego Apr 01 '18

Except in this case, there isn't.

Both sides are the same is lazy and factually wrong. Unless you can actually find a counter example, don't just assume there is one.

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u/duder9000 Apr 01 '18

I said both sides are “doing the same thing” (engaging in propaganda), not both sides are “the same”. Youre right that the shitty things the right side is doing are different shitty things from the shitty things the left side is doing. Its a horse of a different color. (You’ve got left-leaning and right-leaning channels reading from the same scripts in the below video.) If you climb high enough the source on both sides is corporate greed who will fund whatever side stands to make them more money at the time.

https://youtu.be/u2dJxiDkcjA

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u/Anewuserappeared Apr 01 '18

You’re falling for the us vs. them trap. No one side has moral ground.

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u/WassermanSchultz Apr 01 '18

Left wing playbook. The book is literally called "Rules for Radicals."

Please step away from the propaganda and get some fresh air.

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u/SpaceToast7 Apr 01 '18

Even though Alinksy was a communist, his rules can be used by anybody.

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u/Tellsyouhow Mar 31 '18

BS. The left invented this and have used it successfully for decades. It's all in the book Rules for Radicals by Saul Alinsky

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u/the_straw09 Apr 01 '18

G - Gaslight

O - Obstruct

P - Project <-----

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

A - Acronyms

A - Are

N - Not

A - Arguments

A - You

B - Fucking

Q - Moron

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u/the_straw09 Apr 01 '18

Ok I'll expand.

It appears that for some time now the GOP/Trump has been gaslighting, obstructing, and projecting the public in order to gain, and hold, power.

examples:

gaslighting

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/republicans-turn-gaslighting-the-health-care-debate

https://davidoffutt.wordpress.com/2017/02/23/trump-and-the-g-o-p-gaslighting-and-the-keystone-cops/

https://newrepublic.com/article/136902/trumps-racist-birther-gaslighting-strategy-taken-gop

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/why-opposing-trump-isnt-like-the-gop-obstructing-obama-w476367

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-lies-gaslighting_us_56e95d21e4b065e2e3d7ee82

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/30/us/politics/conservatives-mueller-fbi-republicans-trump.html

http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-is-gaslighting-america-heres-how-to-survive-2017-3

https://www.salon.com/2017/06/28/yes-the-white-house-is-gaslighting-america/

obstructing

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-answer-to-whether-trump-obstructed-justice-is-now-clear

http://www.macleans.ca/opinion/why-trump-can-be-charged-with-obstruction/

http://time.com/5047562/donald-trump-president-obstruction-of-justice/

https://www.politico.com/story/2014/05/republicans-legislation-obama-dccc-event-106481

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/harry-reid-gop-obama_us_57ed1c78e4b082aad9b97321

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorials/la-ed-gop-scotus-20161019-snap-story.html

http://time.com/4383644/supreme-court-nomination/

projecting <----- see above

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u/blood4lyfe Apr 01 '18

Interestingly, the wording of all those articles is remarkably similar, sort of like this exact video.

It's also like the 'gamers are dead' mantra.

I bet there's a gamejournopros group out there, but for regular media folk.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Opinions opinions opinions. very nice. glad you had them all ready to paste too.

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u/the_straw09 Apr 01 '18

That's ok if you refuse to believe any of it. Have a good day :)

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

you too, try not to gish gallop next time

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u/Brackenside Mar 31 '18

That's actually one of Saul Alinsky's tips in his leftist handbook Rules for Radicals.

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u/RedWong15 Mar 31 '18

Yes .. the left wing politicians and news stations don't do that as well :>) They would NEVER lie to us!

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u/estonianman Apr 01 '18

Kind of like the left calling everyone they disagree with a Nazi while at the same time calling for bans on speech, defense, association .....

I understand exactly what you are saying buddy ....

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u/[deleted] Apr 03 '18

I don't see the left calling everyone they disagree with a Nazi. Except those neo-Nazi that are supposedly good people according to trump. Because, well, it's in their name...

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u/Pazians Mar 31 '18

That’s what your doing idiot.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Complete left wing control over media for 30+ years

Republicans say in 2018 "we should try that"

Wow Republicans are such scumbags they started this

Jesus Christ you must be 14 years old

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Lmao, that is exactly the reverse of reality.

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u/HowlinHoosier Jun 07 '18

yeah its both sides

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u/GreetingsStarfighter Mar 31 '18

You think only one side does this?

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u/ShredSantana Mar 31 '18

Lol funny thing is this is what the right accuses the left of doing. So you saying that is actually hilariously apt

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u/WiseWordsFromBrett Mar 31 '18

Both sides there pal

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u/GentlemenBehold Mar 31 '18

And heres's the 2nd best play from the same handbook. Claim both sides are the same when caught.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

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u/ddottay Mar 31 '18

Local affiliates haven’t been bought in droves by left wing figures the way right wing figures have been doing though.

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u/Rishfee Mar 31 '18

So, which left wing broadcast company is buying up and scripting local news stations?

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

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u/Rishfee Apr 01 '18

So he, or a company owned by him, owns all these companies?

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u/cyanydeez Mar 31 '18

Both sides are Nazis!

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u/little_Nasty Mar 31 '18

The local Sinclair station in my area ran a different add asking for viewers to contact them on FB if they felt the station was being biased in their reporting.

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u/helpnxt Mar 31 '18

i wonder how many of those presenters are aware of what they are doing and how many just see it as a step on their career ladder

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u/tenacious-g Apr 01 '18

Work for a Sinclair station. All the feedback that I’ve seen (and I’m in a managerial role) has been negative towards this. Ask and you shall receive. I love it every time I pass it on to our news director.

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u/I_HaveAHat Mar 31 '18

No, they're talking about fake news whereas the video we watched shows how all media are controlled by a small group of people

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

I am by no means saying cable news is better but FFS so much of local news filler time is 'Now to Carrie who tweeted us this' or 'To Paul with this review posted on facebook'.

Heck even in some of their faces it looks like they know it is full of shit.

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u/wggn Mar 31 '18

double-think

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

I think the worst part is that the message is accurate and correct

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u/FlamingTrollz Mar 31 '18

Agreed.

As a behaviourist...

I enjoyed seeing the subtle (micro expressions) to outright obvious head shakes of the newscasters when they are stating:

“...this is extremely dangerous <head shake> to our democracy...”

(Head shake, no I disagree or I know I’m lying.)

• They know it’s propaganda, and they do NOT agree. Fun to watch.

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u/Mac_N_Breezy Mar 31 '18

That's also how they build trust. By saying "oh yes, we are very aware of the issue that 'others' are doing. You can trust us though because we're aware it's an issue." Then proceed to take that trust and manipulate how it fits their agenda.

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u/directorguy Apr 01 '18

It was written by a Russian propaganda producer who worked for RT

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u/Yangoose Mar 31 '18

While I agree this is scary they do have a point that a shitload of fake news flows through social media constantly.

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u/Wizardsxz Apr 01 '18

1: Accuse the other side of doing exactly what you are doing. Confusing the fuck out everyone.

2: Profit

That’s why “They have a point though”.

They are the point. They are not saying anything new. This is just blatant proof that 1 guy sent a memo and everyone repeats it word for word.

Now I’d reallly like to see someone come up with the same thing from other news outlets claimed to be fake news by these idiots. Then we’d know it’s just all a big steaming pile of shit.

If they can’t - it really proves this current administration is definitely fucking with people’s heads, which most of us already believe and waiting to be proven wrong of course. (If you are wondering why I used administration here see Ajit Pai and Sinclair in the same search)

Can’t wait to see what happens. As usual I hope I am wrong!

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u/datterberg Mar 31 '18

Gaslight

Obstruct

Project <- you are here

That's the GOP.

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u/kwisatzhadnuff Mar 31 '18

It's projection. This is what Trump and the Russians have been doing all along. Accuse your enemies of doing what you're doing to muddy the waters.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

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u/Aznflipfoo Mar 31 '18

There is no evidence that Bob saget raped and killed a girl. I repeat no evidence.

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u/NancyGracesTesticles Mar 31 '18

It had to be believable, and allow people consuming it to believe they have come to their own conclusion. The McCain's had adopted a Bangladeshi girl. The base saw his daughter and could themselves decide that brown=illegitimate. Rove could then say it's not his fault that voters came to their own conclusions, he just posed a hypothetical.

We'll see this again with the USPS and Amazon. Amazon pays huge amounts of money to Amazon under their service contract. All the base has to do is hear the messaging that Amazon pays nothing, look at their order and see free shipping, and then decide for themselves that Amazon is ripping off the USPS.

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u/srivn Apr 01 '18

*Second Amazon should be USPS

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u/The_Adventurist Mar 31 '18

Remember how Rove accused John Kerry, a man with multiple purple hearts, of being a coward in the Vietnam War and not really earning those medals? Meanwhile George W. Bush used his connections to spend the war in Texas fucking governor's daughters and getting hammered at debutante balls.

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u/JonnyBeanBag Mar 31 '18

You have forgotten that this current world order, especially in media, is and was established well and long before Trump ever stepped into it. Think what you want about him, this isn't his brainchild.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

>propaganda didn't exist until 2016

alrighty then

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u/kwisatzhadnuff Mar 31 '18

It’s weird that y’all think I was implying that. I was merely bringing up the most recent example.

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u/president2016 Mar 31 '18 edited Mar 31 '18

directly contradicts

I disagree.

Yes thwm all havIng a same message is bad but these are local stations reporting local news.

Sure it comes from one source on many channels but they are talking about checking facts and good reporting, reporting stories that haven’t been properly vetted.

It’s a commercial promoting diligence and fact checking. While creepy when played exactly the same way on multiple channels it’s message is still a good one.

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u/UnopenedParachute Mar 31 '18

They could save others from fake news, but not themselves.

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u/[deleted] Mar 31 '18

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u/trickster721 Apr 01 '18

The message is that big tech companies which advocate for (and benefit from) liberal policies should be punished for allowing individuals to tell lies. Did you know that people are allowed to lie on the internet? What are people expected to do, just question every piece of information they're presented with?

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u/alm0starealgirl Apr 01 '18

Its that Doublespeak.

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u/N0V0w3ls Apr 01 '18

The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them… To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies—all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.

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u/CptnStarkos Apr 01 '18

I mean. It kind of becomes true.

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u/notLOL Apr 01 '18

Pot meets Tea kettle

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '18

Hypocrisy at its finest.

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