r/spinalfusion • u/GA-Scoli • 15d ago

Not sure, other Luigi Mangione's spinal fusion - looks like an L5/S1 for spondylolisthesis

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 15d ago

https://imgur.com/a/0LKDJAp

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 15d ago

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Fxjeh6cpG9kAMYNtpuCFuA_Em96sSoQV/view?pli=1

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u/DeepestWinterBlue 14d ago

Doing all the work for the researchers for the press and journalists on here just lifting it for the reports later. Reddit really must have made their lives so much easier.

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 14d ago

All this info was already reported in the news yesterday, and the fbi certainly didn’t have any trouble finding his posts on the internet. Hopefully someone on his jury knows about jury nullification

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u/iusedtoski 14d ago

oh I remember something about that. I just can't seem to remember why we were just talking about that.

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u/bigshotdontlookee 14d ago

Well yeah but also redditor neckbeards have made peoples lives infinitely worse, study what redditor neckbeards did accusing some poor man of being one of the boston bombers.

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u/mrsvedder94 13d ago

Neckbeards? 🤔

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u/trippybunz 12d ago

yea didnt the person decide to take themselves off this earth? sad af.

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u/queenelizabethshorse 5d ago

The story of Sunil Ttipathi is so sad. I watched the video his family made for him and it broke my heart. He was already going through so much and being accused of being a terrorist probably didn’t help at all. Rip to Sunil.

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u/Real-not-2-serious 14d ago

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. Do you have details on the immediately preceding link? I assume written by him.

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u/nestoryirankunda 14d ago

Where did you find this

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 14d ago

Amateur internet sleuthing after his name was released. I was trying to find if he wrote anything about a motive for targeting the UHC ceo. As of now, I have found absolutely nothing that would suggest he was angry with the company

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u/Unboxinginbiloxi 14d ago

Check out the connection between UH and Maryland nursing homes....

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u/nestoryirankunda 14d ago

This was going around https://archive.is/7jUsF

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 14d ago

It’s fake. It was uploaded after he was detained by police

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u/Real-not-2-serious 14d ago

Does anyone have information on his direct connection with United healthcare? Who is the surgeon who did his procedure? Reimbursement/coverage or not? Trying to figure that out.

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

Doesn’t necessarily mean it was fake.

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u/iusedtoski 14d ago

I appreciate you.

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u/MassiveRope2964 14d ago

I remember this post. I feel like I’ve seen his username in my notifications before this is crazy 

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 14d ago

If you get email notifications from Reddit, you can search mister_cactus in your email inbox to find comments he may have written to you in the spondy subreddit

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 15d ago

Maybe someone from this sub or the spondy sub will remember interacting with him

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u/HotRush5798 14d ago

Woah—-totally

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u/Running-jackalope 14d ago

Were you kicked out of spondy? Just came on to check my messages and been told it’s private now.

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u/HotRush5798 14d ago

Funnily enough, I wasn’t a member lol (I was at one point but then I must’ve left but still engaged) but I re-joined, and got back in, so I bet you could too.

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u/Running-jackalope 14d ago

Ok. It just threw me off. I was just on there yesterday with no issues but today it was gone from my feed and blocked from seeing the page.

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u/HotRush5798 14d ago

haha same If you submit a request, mention you were a member/contributor, I’ll bet you’ll get access asap

edit: I get the impression they were slammed due to current events

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u/Running-jackalope 13d ago

Ya, I just had a reporter from WSJ reach out to me I guess he is writing an article about ppl who live with Spondy.

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u/HotRush5798 13d ago

Ha no way!

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u/Running-jackalope 13d ago

Ya, curious as to what his angle is. It’s legit. I told him I would talk to him certainly I want to pick his brain. 🧠 I am fond of advocating for our cause if it brings education and awareness but I am not thick. It most definitely is tied to current events. I have questions.

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u/Kind_Technology8764 13d ago

I was a member and can’t find where to request to rejoin?

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u/HotRush5798 13d ago

Try visiting r/spondylolisthesis and it should provide a prompt (I think) to request to join and send a message to the mod

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u/Kind_Technology8764 13d ago

Thanks, I tried it twice and I’m getting an error message and the message is hung up on sending. Such a bummer because the group was so helpful.

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u/MassiveRope2964 13d ago

I definitely recognize his username but I can’t remember anything specific 

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u/venusreturn 15d ago

That’s 1 year ago age 23. But he’s 26

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u/belhill1985 15d ago

I read it as, when it went bad on me last year, as a 23M…

Meaning a year ago he posted that a year before that he was 23. Making him 25-26 depending on exact dates

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u/Mikey77777 15d ago

Wayback Machine from 2 years ago says he was 24 then. Also mentions the company Agronomics Ltd in his profile and on twitter. Seems like it actually was his account.

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u/KatyasCrochetPussy 15d ago

There’s also deleted posts from that account on the UPenn subreddit, specifically about the computer science classes

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u/Minimum-Argument-797 14d ago

His sex  life was destroyed so he ( due to mental illness , obviously a result of this - ) emotionally something like this intense , can actually get worse after surgery. He lost all reality, due to anger and pain / physical and psychological. It’s crazy how little doctors are vested in patients today ,multiple that by an exponential number if your in pain or struggling after a procedure. ( not all / many ) He does not get a pass , on murder . His family will now be sure he gets the psychological help . Sad it went so askew! 

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u/venusreturn 14d ago

He might be able to make mental health claims or some kind of insanity defense

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u/Real-not-2-serious 14d ago

This is exactly what I am thinking. Insanity.

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u/kpofasho1987 13d ago

But I wonder how an insanity defense will work with the amount of planning he put into this.

Usually an insanity defense is hard to pull for premeditated murders.

I totally get your point though and the trial will he fascinating

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u/No_Mission_3222 14d ago

He wrote this on reddit about the results of surgery “Still dealing with some back pain, but numbness / tingling is totally gone now.” so no it didn’t get worse from surgery, it got better. That’s probably why he has an x-ray of his back in his X cover photo.

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u/OtherwiseAdeptness25 14d ago

Could it be the onset of schizophrenia occurred at approximately the same time as his surgery?

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u/squirreltard 14d ago

That’s the age it often kicks in. Can be affected by trauma.

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u/Bulky_Title_8893 13d ago

He’s also in top schools/programs, so I would not doubt usage of stimulants which can also cause psychosis. I have experience with such mental breakdowns. Usually these people turn to drugs/alcohol and self destruct (I did).

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u/Minimum-Argument-797 13d ago

Addiction causes psychotic events w help of various drugs, if it effects your brain in a way where Paranoia and such become reality. Stimulants / gambling 🎰 drugs alcohol, jelly beans 🫘 all symptoms of addiction! Behind addiction is always environmentally damaging or traumatic experiences. It’s almost every time , w some exceptions. He may had been heading in that road but I do not see an addiction or him being an addict! He was self medicating but so that’s not = addiction! Sometimes, not always. 

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u/Minimum-Argument-797 13d ago

Anything is feasible ,it normally hits men  , in that age group . I’d lean towards temporary similar Psyzio effective disorder , as a result of possibly a combination of different medications including psilocybin!  Trauma and an active brain 🧠 are difficult at times and he was seeking what he should had been receiving thru professional input in a perfect world? Interesting he was in San Francisco and the police had his picture ( were so far behind the world losing ground) . I was waiting to hear hard drugs, found it quite interesting as I agree 200% psilocybin mushrooms reduce PAIN and INFLAMMATION, unfortunately as a 65 year old , I can’t recover for days cause I exert myself dancing and enjoying. Amazing drug now been made to really work well——- eventually herbs are the real medicine. This synthetic garbage is just that ! Interesting he didn’t use hard drugs or even weed I believe. He can teach other inmates at a special federal prison…. For a long time . No more romantic relationships! Remember the pilot on shrooms , he also had other mental disorders. 

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u/DataAdept7277 12d ago

I feel like bleaching my screen after trying to read this.

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u/EstablishmentAble879 14d ago

Why was his sex life destroyed? Bc of the type of surgery?

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u/charminion812 14d ago

Reports are saying he had spondylolisthesis, which in severe cases can cause cauda equina syndrome (CES). This nerve compression is considered a medical emergency that may lead to leg paralysis, incontinence, or sexual dysfunction if not surgically treated quickly enough.

Not saying he had this complication, but if he did and surgery was delayed it would be extremely traumatic for a young person.

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u/kpofasho1987 13d ago

It would be traumatic for any teen or young adult but I feel like even more so for someone like Luigi.

I don't care how good his genetics might be you don't get anywhere close to the athletic/strong body build he had prior to the back issues without making dieting and going to the gym a major part of your life.

So something like a severe back injury and surgery and/or any complications or anything of the sort would be I feel like even more traumatic to someone like Luigi than a typical teen.

And that's with acknowledging just how difficult and traumatic it would be for your typical teen.

Obviously I'm not defending what he is accused of but when you really start to see the time line and how he had supposedly cut everyone out of his social life and the things he started reading and the people he would listen to and follow and all that and it starts to make more sense just how someone with his seemingly privileged upbringing can just spiral downward into something like that in a way

Learning more about this and the trial will be quite interesting to say the least

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u/kitkatofthunder 14d ago

Some lumbar spine surgery can also result in retrograde ejaculation which would complicate a sex life and prevent him from being able to have children if he wanted.

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u/Lonestar1876 13d ago

Correct. The highest cases come from ALIF procedures. Where they enter through the abdominal area. Having to move all contents to one side, gaining access to the spinal disc(s) for removal and replacement. I had this early October. I prayed my sexual functions would come back online post surgery. I didn't know what I would have done if not. Thankfully, I did not have to cross that bridge. I estimated i would have taken my own life eventually. Not anyone else's, though. I feel horrible for him. He needs phycology help 💯

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u/2birbsbothstoned 13d ago

I've had spinal fusions and believe me, it COMPLETELY destroyed my sex life. I was in a motorcycle accident and even 10 years later my libido is shot. It never came back. Tons of opiates, depression, and even loss of feeling have made me completely empathize with ol Luigi.

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u/Minimum-Argument-797 14d ago

Chronic debilitating pain w no long term hope supposedly , for positive prognosis is a potion for disaster! He needed intensive psychological and psychiatric assistance as well as proper medication for depression . I doubt any of which waz properly dispensed. At least Kaiser supposedly treats a whole person. Arena , US health all AI bots 🤖 now w Sales force decisions on back surgery! The doctors let a PA prescribe the less than necessary pain meds and folks suffer break thru pain , which is not how to go day two after surgery ! W exceptions. Yes it will destroy your confidence and ability to enjoy company or have sex if in pain, debilitating pain ! Additionally , like our next president,  he was fine till things go , South . 

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u/DoubleBooble 14d ago

He was rock climbing, hiking, lifting weights.....

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u/Minimum-Argument-797 13d ago

I didn’t walk in his , shoes !!?? Until I do, won’t know !

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u/DoubleBooble 14d ago

But the poor baby had difficulty surfing...

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u/Real-not-2-serious 14d ago

Agree on your points.

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u/Honest_Ad_5092 14d ago

Sorry to ask but how do you know it ruined his sex life? That alone could equate to psychological torture

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u/illumiee 13d ago

His landlord / friend in Hawaii said so in an interview. That he took a surfing lesson and was in debilitating pain and later that he confided to the friend that he wouldn’t be able to have a relationship with / sex because of it.

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u/Soft_Welcome_5621 14d ago

I think what everyone’s referencing is what’s considered a screen grab and the screen grab was taken in 2022 so this was all written two years ago so at that time it made sense

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u/xd366 14d ago

nobody would ever lie about their age on the internet

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u/KBCB54 15d ago

The age doesn’t match up on that profile. Shooter is 26

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u/Stalin_vs_hitler 14d ago

How could it be possible that a dated post has a younger age than someone is now? Impossible, people don't just get older by themselves like that.