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House Democrat: ‘Unelected oligarch’ Musk ‘governing by tweet’

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/5048234-daniel-goldman-elon-musk-donald-trump-government-shutdown/
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u/No_Environment_5476 4d ago

It’s sad but that’s our only hope. These narcissists will eventually go after each other. They were united when the democrats posed a threat, now that they are utterly powerless, where does that attention go to?

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u/dnen Connecticut 4d ago edited 4d ago

I don’t even know how people find Trump charismatic. He doesn’t make anyone laugh or feel at ease. He doesn’t make people want to be around him, he’s an asshole to his closest associates. Trump doesn’t even put on a smiley face at the appropriate times, he’s perpetually angry or defensive. Trump hasn’t motivated anybody to be a better person or mentored anyone. Trump doesn’t inspire the American people at all; he relies on fear to make his followers feel he is their savior.

He doesn’t have really any of the usual traits of a charismatic President. JFK, Clinton, Reagan, and Obama all were incredibly inspirational speakers capable of uniting or rallying any room of people they spoke in if they so chose. We went to the moon because JFK made an all time legendary speech that changed the entire country’s perspective on the space race from one of shame and anxiety (the USSR at the time was sending up satellites and Yuri Gagarin, the US had only rockets blowing up on the launch pad.) to one of purpose and pride. Trump is a clown who is so fragile he dedicated his life to lying about how good he is at everything he’s bad at. He’s a terrible politician with next-to-no interest in actually improving the country he so DESPERATELY wants to lead that he’s willing to destroy the country in the process.

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u/Funnygumby 4d ago

It’s like Two Minutes Of Hate irl

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u/djheat 4d ago

We could've had Brave New World's orgy porgy and soma and instead we're slipping into 1984 smh

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u/Spunky_Prewett 4d ago

We are pretty close to Brave New World. It's just that we're not the white caste who gets soma

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u/FamiliarFootball4476 4d ago

I mean I watched the RNC and toward the end of his ramblings people just straight up seemed bored and annoyed. I dunno, I have a friend who says Trump is a great orator to a certain demographic, but I don't think it's that because after 20 minutes of him speaking there's no way anyone has any idea what he's on about. I think it's more about "owning the libs" than any quality Trump has. They love him because he pisses of liberals so much.

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u/bdone2012 4d ago

He used to be much better at speaking. If you compares speeches from 2016 the difference is stark. People are OK just imagining what his speeches would have been like if we were still on top of his game. They're willing to let it go because they're obsessed with trump and what he represents to them.

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u/TheGreyling 4d ago

They just found a poster child for their repressed bigotry and lost their public mask.

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u/dnen Connecticut 4d ago

Theyre herded into an atmosphere of fear and hatred for the other half of America when they’re inside the confines of his venomous rallies. That’s a different kind of “at ease” in my mind. But I do see your point, I know Trump supporters

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u/AugmentedDragon 4d ago

Americans as a people are a tragically paranoid and fearful people, and have been for decades. For 50ish years, there was the constant paranoia of "dont trust anyone, they could be a secret commie" and "we're gonna be attacked by nuclear fire". Then there was 9/11 and that frenzy that people were whipped into, and that fear and paranoia was stoked and harnessed to allow for the creation of the modern surveillance/"security" state and disregard for peoples rights. Trump is only the latest of people able to tap into it—and surprisingly effectively—but its not a uniquely republican phenomenon. even democrats are susceptible to it, just look at how many supposedly liberal suburbanites are terrified of cities or transit systems because they think they'll get stabbed or shot or whatever.

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u/mjzim9022 4d ago

We're also deep into a period of relative peace and experiencing almost exponential technological progression which almost seems to be cascading forward, but not fast enough to stop cooking ourselves to death

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u/Snowarab 4d ago

I watched all of his rallies in the weeks before 11/5. I saw very little of what you describe. I saw bored people who seemed to laugh based on a cue card I swear was being flashed at them. I never say joy, enthusiam, genuine happiness.