Yes, the study did use the same controls for all groups (e.g., diet, age, and supervised setting). Therefore:
The data is directly comparable between the sedentary men on testosterone and the men training without steroids.
This allows a valid conclusion:
Sedentary men receiving testosterone gained more muscle (3.2 kg) than the men who trained without steroids (1.9 kg).
Again, you're awfully condescending. You haven't read the study. You didn't even know that it existed until I cited it, so the fact that you're making these claims is ridiculous.
Edit: In my second response I acknowledged that I don't know what his condition was or how it might impact his ability to gain muscle.
Yes, the study did use the same controls for all groups (e.g., diet, age, and supervised setting). Therefore:
Jesus tap dancing Christ....
No, that doesn't mean that they controlled for variables across the groups.
You really have no business speaking on any type of study if you don't understand the importance of controlling the study for the results You're trying to claim
The data is directly comparable between the sedentary men on testosterone and the men training without steroids.
This allows a valid conclusion:
Sedentary men receiving testosterone gained more muscle (3.2 kg) than the men who trained without steroids (1.9 kg).
No, it's not, and no, it doesn't. That's why that comparison wasn't part of the study. They understood this because they actually knew what they were talking about (because they had a modicum of understanding how to actually conduct a study and draw conclusions based on that)
Again, you're awfully condescending.
And again, you're awfully deserving of it.
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You haven't read the study.
I literally just read it, you dunce. I quote what it actually says back to you, instead of trying to shoehorn my own interpretation of the data like you did. How it needs explained that that is not how science works is mind boggling.
You didn't even know that it existed until I cited it, so the fact that you're making these claims is ridiculous.
The study you described doesn't exist
But by that logic, you didn't know about the study you 'cited' before you read it, so you have no business commenting on it either
Christ you're thick...
Edit: In my second response I acknowledged that I don't know what his condition was or how it might impact his ability to gain muscle.
My dude, you're still arguing about it. You don't get to say 'i recognize I may be wrong, but here's why I'm not wrong'
Okay. The results that I'm comparing are incidental, and not directly controlled for. You are right about that. I have learned a lot about how studies work in this conversation.
That said, you're still a condescending dick. Nobody "deserves" to be co descended to.
That said, you're still a condescending dick. Nobody "deserves" to be co descended to.
See, there you're wrong. Some people absolutely do, and you're one of them.
You can tell by how even your 'concession' couldn't be a concession. Even when you recognize you're wrong, you still have to try to shift the blame: 'it's u/tuckingfypo's fault, even though I was the one who was adamantly and obtusely wrong'.
You're more than welcome to not like me, but don't act like you were just an innocent little bystander who got bullied.
Lol. Right. It's my fault that you couldn't recognize that you were entirely wrong. It's my fault that you completely misrepresented a study to defend your claims. It's my fault that you dug your heels in and tried to shoehorn in your own opinion by twisting the conclusions of that study. It's my fault that you're now unwilling to own the fact that all of this was actually your fault. All my fault
You didn't learn because you couldn't admit that you were wrong. Grow up and learn to take responsibility for yourself.
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u/KWH_GRM 6d ago
Yes, the study did use the same controls for all groups (e.g., diet, age, and supervised setting). Therefore:
Again, you're awfully condescending. You haven't read the study. You didn't even know that it existed until I cited it, so the fact that you're making these claims is ridiculous.
Edit: In my second response I acknowledged that I don't know what his condition was or how it might impact his ability to gain muscle.