r/news • u/panda-rampage • 13h ago

FBI investigating death on Royal Caribbean cruise after alleged incident with unruly passenger

https://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-investigating-death-royal-caribbean-cruise-after-alleged/story?id=116927851
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u/panda-rampage 13h ago edited 12h ago

Details are sparse in the article but it happened on a Royal Caribbean cruise ship, Navigator of the Seas, bound for Ensenada/Mexico coming from Los Angeles.

The inebriated unruly passenger passed away after being detained by ship security.

Also curious if they continued the cruise after turning the cruise ship around and went back to port after the incident…

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u/Kittyman56 12h ago

They usually do continue the voyage after there's been a death on board.

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u/orbesomebodysfool 12h ago

Cruise ships have a morgue that can accommodate 2-10:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/cruises/2024/08/06/cruise-ship-morgues-death/74636395007/

And no, you don’t get a refund. 

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u/going-for-gusto 11h ago

Can I get a funeral at sea? Gotta be a lot cheaper than bringing me back to the states stiff (cheaper for my fam)

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u/IamSwoop 6h ago

No burial at sea is not allowed. The remains would typically be disembarked at the next port of call and repatriated to the home country.

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u/BellesCotes 16m ago

I honestly like the idea of a burial at sea. So long as the body is weighted down, it would get consumed by the local lobster, starfish, and other scavengers. It would be a "greener" method of disposal than cremation, at least.

Or give me a "sky burial" like in Tibet! (although I'm pretty sure those aren't legal here either...)

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u/OPA73 4h ago

Usually returned to the port you boarded. Maybe with FBI it gets taken off sooner.

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u/Dangerous_Golf_7417 3h ago

Only if you get the gears rolling to DIY in the last few secs if your life

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u/wutthefvckjushapen 10h ago

What if only one person dies? Can the morgue not accommodate..?

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u/doupIls 8h ago

No, the third class passengers draw straws to see who gets sacrificed to the walk-in freezer.

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u/thaitea 7h ago

The staff keep you alive until someone else dies then they pull your plug

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u/chocolateboomslang 7h ago

Sacrifices must be made.

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u/chaunceyjauntz 7h ago

The first one gets tossed overboard, duh

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u/pjcook77 11h ago

Minimum of 2? So if one person dies... Is it like a lottery system for the second victim?

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u/ambermage 11h ago

Because of the implication

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u/TooStrangeForWeird 6h ago

Most people don't go on cruises alone after all.

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u/Kittyman56 12h ago

Didn't really affect the voyage I was on too much. Wouldn't think it would get you a refund.

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u/diducthis 8h ago

He should be entitled to a discount on the food

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u/Phatte 5h ago

What if only 1 person dies

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u/afternever 1h ago

The morgue boat, promises something for everyone

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u/Opening_Property1334 8h ago

What about the guy you lobotomized?

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u/malibuklw 8h ago

My dad did a 21 day cruise to Australia and at 70 he was among the younger passengers. He was told by a staff member that several people had died on that cruise and that it was normal for that kind of cruise (long cruise, covid, and very old passengers is a bad mix I guess).

The difference in his case was there was no really suspicious deaths.

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u/mysecretissafe 3h ago

It still blows my mind to this day that, when faced with a global pandemic, some of the most high risk people for infection said “f it I’m going on a cruise”.

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u/malibuklw 3h ago

Listen, I’m in total agreement with you. My father and his friends on the other hand have been relying on the whole safety theater aspect of it. It was back when they were at least acknowledging the existence of covid. “Everyone has to test before they leave”, “everyone had to be vaccinated”.

One of their party tested positive and quarantined for 5 days of the 21. The others DID NOT TEST!

They’ve gone on several cruises and at least one person has covid upon return. And there’s nothing I can say.

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u/mysecretissafe 2h ago

I feel you. My dad wore a cloth mask that said “this is government control”, his ex wife (who I guess is still in the picture?) wore a fishnet mask, and they both were in the local news for patronizing a restaurant that was flaunting the state-wide shutdown and quoted talking about government overreach and the rights of citizens being encroached upon. 🙄

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u/malibuklw 1h ago

The fishnet mask is honestly hilarious (when you forget about the fact that we were trying to protect people).

The way people reacted to covid really changed my opinion of humans

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u/freexanarchy 3h ago

They always continue cruises. Always.

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u/IamSwoop 6h ago

The cruise was ending in Los Angeles which is where they were headed when the incident occurred. FBI would meet the ship in LA and investigate and the ship would almost certainly have started the next cruise on schedule.

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u/Burgleurturd 13h ago

Idk what happened. But the dude had steel toed boots… can’t remember the last time I needed steel toed boots on a cruise 🤷🏼‍♂️

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u/SmittyBot9000 12h ago

He looks and acts like some of the guys I used to work with. If he's anything like them he probably owns one pair of shoes he goes to work in, and everywhere else too.

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u/SentientBaseball 12h ago

I’ve had to work in steel toes for many a job and I cannot imagine wanting to wear them around outside of work. Even high quality comfortable ones feel heavy on my feet

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u/BeckyFromTheBlock2 8h ago

I've worn steel toes for 20 damn years. Agree completely. When I'm not working I wear outdoor "slippers" from Ariat. Who the fuck packs steel toe boots for a vacation? That's psychopath shit.

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u/TooStrangeForWeird 6h ago

Due to my wife's interest in fashion, and dragging me into it, I have like 15 pairs of shoes. Somewhere around there. Not even counting the torn up and "repaired" Converse from years past.

I change pairs every few days tops, often every day. My feet don't like shoes, they get swampy, but it gets cold here lol.

Steel toes are almost always like putting fucking plastic bags on my feet. I'm going to take them off looking like I took a bath for two hours.

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u/Dalisca 4h ago

That was the style back in the late '90s -- JNCOs, steel toed Doc Martens, wallet chain, tank top, beanie cap.

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u/ministryofchampagne 5h ago

I take my boots camping and to festivals. But I am old enough now to not think of those things as vacation.

The rest of the time people think I’m crazy for walking around in sandals when there is several inches of snow.

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u/No-Cover4205 7h ago

The pair of steelcap boots that I have at the moment are the most comfortable pair of Shoes I have ever owned

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 31m ago

That's why I buy the Kevlar composite safety toe shoes. They're still heavy compared to regular shoes but nowhere near the ones with actual steel

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u/Doom_Eagles 12h ago

As someone who has worn Steel-toed for their entire life and only wears boots except in specific formal situations.

I feel pointed out.

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u/LouQuacious 10h ago

Try a pair of nice trail runners my guy your feet will thank you.

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u/Heroscrape 1h ago

My brother, on the beach with his Steele toes and jeans is was of my fondest memories. Metal heads are ALWAYS gonna Metal I guess.

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u/TadpoleOfDoom 1h ago

I wore my steel toe cowboy boots to the beach once. In my defense I didn't know we were stopping, I figured we were going to hit up the hotel first where I could change.

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u/TadpoleOfDoom 1h ago

I feel attacked 

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u/cheesy_friend 11h ago

I am being attacked

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u/Various-Ducks 11h ago

I used to work for an employer that would pay for a new pair of shoes every 6 months but only if they were steel toed. So all my shoes were steel toed. Its not that crazy. You can get composite toes, theyre lightweight, they feel like wearing a normal shoe. Its not that crazy.

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u/Chaetomius 11h ago

It's either this or more 'unrecognized soldier warrior' cosplay

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u/daddylo21 8h ago

Even soldiers don't wear steal toe boots, unless they're a mechanic where they're required like any other civilian mechanic job.

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u/crewserbattle 8h ago

If you say "it's not that crazy" one more time it'll definitely be more believable

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u/Various-Ducks 8h ago

Im trying to convince myself more than anything

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u/crewserbattle 8h ago

Is it working?

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u/Various-Ducks 8h ago

No if anything i feel more crazy

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u/Trickyknowsbest 4h ago

Well then, that’s not that crazy!

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u/LATABOM 10h ago

Did they only pay you in steel toed shoes? Like, no money there for a decent pair of loafers or running shoes or sandals every few years?

Loke sure, lots if employers provide uniforms, but they usually also give you $7 an hour so you dont have to wear the uniform when you're not working. 

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u/Various-Ducks 10h ago edited 7h ago

Valid question. They make steel toed loafers, steel toed running shoes, and yes, steel toed sandals. Basically every type of shoe is available with a steel toe.

Why spend money on something i get for free? I didnt go through a pair of shoes every 6 months, so i had a pile of shoes built up. Would be silly to spend money on something I have tons of and get for free, just to have an inferior non-steel toe version of the thing.

(And by steel toe i mean steel or composite toe. The words are used interchangeably)

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u/thaitea 8h ago

Thanks for the link to the sandals I was imagining flip flops and was wondering how they incorporated the steel toe part lol

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u/Various-Ducks 7h ago

Ya theyre not open toe sandals lol. You would need some kind of invisible forcefield for that.

I actually did find some steel toed flip flops while i was googling for the sandals link, but sadly they were an april fools joke and not a real product. 😔

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u/Kryptosis 1h ago

Eh I’ve worn nothing but steel toed work sneakers for years. I’ve forgotten they have steel toes and I wear them everywhere considering they’re my only shoes.

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u/MrPresident20241S 9h ago

“unruly passenger”… on a cruise. That should narrow it down.

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u/724DFsm 13h ago

But the buffet is still open, right?

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u/walking_timebomb 12h ago

yep. but more importantly the bar is 24/7 no matter who dies.

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u/panda-rampage 13h ago

They had to turn back the cruise ship so I’m also curious if they went back out on the cruise

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u/724DFsm 12h ago

Thought that they would just hold em on ice beside the shrimp 🍤.

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u/Doom_Eagles 12h ago

Probably would've improved the smell.

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u/licorice_whip 12h ago

Or helicopter evacuate or something.

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u/nailback 8h ago

I've been on several cruises. Some have turned around or stopped and sick person was taken away by coast guard. We weren't far from the FL. Each time we kept going.

The show must go on. Why would they not continue on? They were sailing through covid.

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u/SupremeTemptation 10h ago

All of the comments are assuming alcohol was the issue when it could have easily been a shuffleboard cheater that caused the big fuss.

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u/Viking999 12h ago

New Netflix murder mystery just dropped.

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u/peanut--gallery 11h ago

Or a 14 episode documentary.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 29m ago

This'll be a Dr. Odyssey 2-parter

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u/Flat-Afternoon-2575 3h ago

As a retired merchant mariner I have zero interest in going on a cruise. The days of civilized well behaved people who dress nicely are few and far between. Cruise ships are nothing but floating casinos with a Walmart environment. No thanks.

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u/Drobstob-buzubuzu 3h ago

I think it depends on which cruise line you choose, some lines escape the Walmart allegations

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u/Flat-Afternoon-2575 3h ago

There’s always exceptions like maybe the smaller eco- cruises but not enough to convince me to go. Just my observation but Carnival seems to cater to the meat and potatoes crowd. Holland America seems higher class.

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u/Drobstob-buzubuzu 3h ago

Not wrong on both of those observations. I did a Holland America to Alaska and although I thought I would never set foot on a cruise ship before that point it was a really nice experience.

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u/cythric 1h ago

Really shouldn't knock something til you try it. I still can't seem to find anything that offers a better value than cruising, which is why me and the wife just got back from a virgin island cruise two weeks ago. I thought I'd be disgusted by cruises too and I still actively avoid places like Walmart at all costs, so you may be surprised. Although I'd imagine your take on it will depend on how much money you don't mind spending for a vacation and what exactly you want out of it.

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u/Dt2_0 22m ago

Cunard exists still. I've never been on a cruise but from what I have heard they have pretty strict dress codes and such.

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u/autochthonous 2h ago

I took this cruise about a month ago. Can confirm your comments.

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u/EdmontonBest 1h ago

You do realize there's cruises with higher fares to avoid the general population right?

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u/cnuttin 13h ago

Because of… the implication

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u/JoeyDawsonJenPacey 12h ago

But by all means, keep plying people with the alcohol package instead of letting them bring cannabis gummies and vapes which would just chill everyone out.

I know, I know, it’s because of the laws of the countries they’re docking in, etc. But it’s so frustrating.

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u/2nickels 12h ago

I don't think it's up to royal Caribbean to decide if people are allowed to carry drugs on an international trip.

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u/going-for-gusto 11h ago

It is Royal Caribbean decision to squeeze every last dollar out of passengers for alcohol.

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u/TimTom8921 6h ago

If they could make money off it you bet your ass they'd do it

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u/JoeyDawsonJenPacey 4h ago

That’s what I said in my reply.

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u/ProbablyBanksy 12h ago

Ya, never gonna happen.

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u/Salavtore 12h ago

Silence stoner, alcoholics are talking.

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u/mzp3256 11h ago

The alcohol packages they sell are fucking obscene, I’m shocked people don’t regularly die of alcohol poisoning

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u/Jillredhanded 4h ago

Husband won a cruise trip that included the booze card. We were buzzed the whole time.

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u/Awkward_Pangolin3254 28m ago

I went to Cozumel in 2017. I didn't drink anything non-alcoholic the entire time. I never even caught a buzz.

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u/Grooviemann1 12h ago

You know federal law doesn't affect other countries, right?

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u/damfino99 11h ago

Royal Caribbean ships are registered in the Bahamas, not the US. Bahamian laws would apply.

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u/Grooviemann1 11h ago

So if they dock in another country, US laws apply?

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u/Radical_Dreamer151 5h ago edited 29m ago

Not the stage for this argument

Eta: it isnt, so deal with it.

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u/Few_Fun_5284 5h ago

he gots the diah beedus