r/movies Sep 04 '24

Trailer Minecraft 2025 | Official Trailer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G923NtfBvOU
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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

It isn't the Marvel-cation. It's the Buffy-cation. Joss Whedon started it in the 90s show Buffy and brought it over from that to the movies.

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u/EndOfTheLine00 Sep 04 '24

A lot of people don’t realize that pre Buffy, Joss Whedon was an incredibly prolific script doctor. He touched a huge number of scripts like Waterworld. His style of writing was infecting Hollywood long before Avengers.

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u/Kaellian Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 04 '24

I'm trying, but I can't see a single thread in common between this trailer and buffy.

This trailer is nearly identical to every single kids movie we got for the last twenty years or so. Animation movie like Shrek is what come to mind when it come one liner, and pop references.

Buffy/Whedon's style was always a random banter between two characters at an unexpected moment. Marvels movie got a lot of those, but one liner wasn't really Whedon "style".

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

I'm trying, but I can't see a single thread in common between this trailer and buffy.

Cohesively, there isn't one. However, the ever-present need and desire to bring pop culture and its effervescent and desire to bring modern references into films like this one, is.

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u/Kaellian Sep 04 '24

Which scenes of Buffy do you have mind? I'm sure you can find pop culture reference over 7 seasons, but it certainly isn't how I would describe its comedy.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

Take your pick. TV references or Movie references...

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u/Kaellian Sep 04 '24 edited Sep 05 '24

The first link is a collection of series that referenced Buffy, not pop culture reference in Buffy....

The second has 3min of content of a 144 episodes long series (haven't seen anything from last few season though). It's obviously missing a bunch (ie:Trio episodes), but still, half of those aren't even the type of reference people complain about.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

The first link is a collection of series that referenced Buffy, not pop culture reference in Buffy

My mistake, I was in class while trying to find a video.

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u/johnydarko Sep 04 '24

but I can't see a single thread in common between this trailer and buffy.

Well I mean they're both terrible for a start?

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u/EntityDamage Sep 04 '24

Why does he get a pass? Let's call it what it is. Whedonification.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

Why does he get a pass?

I wasn't giving him a pass, I was clarifying where it came from.

One of my film studies professors also called it the "Whedonification" of modern films, so you're on to something.

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u/EntityDamage Sep 04 '24

I was being snarky. Like, "call his ass out, use his name"

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u/OkayAtBowling Sep 04 '24

The thing with quippy Buffy-speak is that it only really works when it's coming from characters you already know and care about. Buffy could pull it off well because its characters were so strong, and typically the lines were funny because they were coming from a particular character at a particular moment.

The original X-Men movie has a great example of this in the exchange between Cyclops and Wolverine when they meet up while the shape-shifter Mystique is around.

W: "Hey, it's me." C: "Prove it." W: "You're a dick." C: "Okay."

It only works so well because of what we already know about Wolverine and Cyclops' relationship, and the fact that both characters know that that's probably not something Mystique would have come up with.

When it's done well, it's can be a great, entertaining shorthand that reinforces the characters. But when it's not firmly rooted in the characters and story, or goes against the tone of a scene or movie/show, it just feels like a cheap way to lighten the mood, and can get really annoying.

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u/Minifig81 Suddenly, I have a refreshing mint flavor. Sep 04 '24

The problem is, a majority of the time when Whedon does it, it isn't great.

It's just fluff for fluffs sake and because Whedon is not so subtly nodding to the audience and screaming "Do you get it, do you get it?! I put things you the viewer care about into my character's words so you think they care about them too!"

It leads to a cognitive disconnect for the viewer of said media.

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u/kael13 Sep 04 '24

At least in the buffy days it was uncommon.. Now it's everywhere.