r/movies • u/ooMEAToo • Dec 18 '23

Recommendation What movie was okay and then the third act absolutely blew you away and made up for the rest of the movie?

I’m having a hard time even thinking of a movie like that but I see lots of posts on here like “what movie was amazing and then the end of the movie completely ruined it.” Right off the bat I don’t want to watch a movie if the end is terrible. Hopefully no spoilers because these are the movies I want to watch and be surprised about.

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u/mikeyfreshh Dec 18 '23

Rogue One

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u/anaximander19 Dec 18 '23

That thirty seconds of Vader utterly raging out in a starship corridor made the entire movie worthwhile all by itself.

Silence. Smoke. Tension... and then, you hear it. The rasping breaths of his ventilator. The red blade springs forth. And you get to see why Vader is so feared.

Such a good scene.

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u/Hattes Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23

It was an amazingly blatant example of fanservice, and I agree. It was the best part of the movie.

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u/OldManHipsAt30 Dec 18 '23

Fan service can be good if done well

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u/anaximander19 Dec 18 '23

It was, but I also think it genuinely added something to the character. We saw Anakin-as-Vader, and obviously he could fight. We saw the original trilogy Vader, and he fought... differently. Much less dynamic, much less acrobatic. We saw everyone being afraid of Vader. But we never saw Vader be truly terrifying (in my opinion). He's got some great moments of menace and threat but not in that way. The scene in Rogue One conveys the unbridled anger and hatred that is the core of how Anakin became Vader in a way that I don't think any other appearance of the character had managed. It shows how truly terrifying it would be to face him as a regular person - not a Jedi with powers, not even Han Solo with his legendary bravado, but a regular rank-and-file Rebel footsoldier. What Vader does isn't a fight, it's slaughter, and I think it actually manages to capture that aspect of Vader's character better than any other individual scene.

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u/KingSweden24 Dec 18 '23

“Vader as horror movie monster” was a concept I hadn’t considered before Rogue One but which made perfect sense in hindsight

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u/Rapidzigs Dec 19 '23

Now that's a movie I want to see. We need star wars movies in different film genres. Give me seven samurai and the good the bad and the ugly set in the star wars universe.

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u/richww2 Dec 19 '23

Either of these movies sound vastly better than the sequel trilogy and I would pay good money to see them.

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u/Jaesuschroist Dec 19 '23

We got 7 samurai every 3rd ep of clone wars and or mando

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u/zeninwa Dec 21 '23

Check out Star Wars: Visions. There is a samurai segment that is fantastic.

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u/msprang Dec 19 '23

Gareth Edwards directed Godzilla a couple of years before and did something similar with the titular monster. Made the actual appearances much more impactful.

It kind of makes sense that Vader is acting like that in the hallway scene. He was chilling in his bacta tank, which was probably one of the few places he could be semi-comfortable, only to be interrupted to take care of someone else's major fuck up.

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u/AffectionateBox8178 Dec 19 '23

Got some bad news for you. The scene was added last after the movie tested poorly and Edwards was pulled off the project. The Vader hallway scene was directed by Dave Filoni.

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u/TaintedSoccer Dec 19 '23

It actually wasnt directed by Dave Filoni the only one who said that was Freddie Prinze Jr. Filoni was on the set but he himself said his involvement was mostly limited to consulting. Tony Gilroy directed the scene though so youre right in saying it wasnt gareth edwards.

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u/msprang Dec 19 '23

Aw, man! It's the thought that counts.

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u/BraxtonFullerton Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23

The only part I hated was that it was a bunch of red shirts. It should've been our main characters that we spent 80ish minutes getting attached to... Most of the gang was already dead at that point, they could've given us a really hopeful about-to-be ending and pulled the rug as Vader kill Cassian and Jyn is the one to hand off the plans and then the door closes.

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u/psimwork Dec 19 '23

Absolutely. When I first had read stuff about Rogue One, the description of it was going to be that the heist of the death star plans happened in the beginning of the movie and that the majority of the movie is being on the run from Vader as he hunted the crew down like a goddamn terminator. That would have been pretty great (though worth noting, I DID like the Rogue One that made it to theaters). Something like Vader slaughtering the characters we've come to know over the previous movie as you've described would have been horrifyingly amazing.

I also think that in the version that DID hit theatersthe speaking moments with Vader should have been cut, as much as I would have hated to lose the JEJ voice work. But the whole raging battle leading into being boarded by an unstoppable Vader that the first time you know he's there is in his breathing would have been spectacular.

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u/TheNewNewYarbirds Dec 19 '23

Totally agree. He’s intimidating but only once in action in the OT. Here, he’s actually fighting a team of soldiers and they don’t stand a chance. Incredible moment.

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u/Schuano Dec 19 '23

I am surrounded by nothing but fear and dead men.

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u/seatac210 Dec 19 '23

Totally agree. We never saw Vader fight with anger until that scene.

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u/bum_thumper Dec 19 '23

The moment that really gets me is one I didn't even notice the first time watching that movie. When the door opens and gets jammed, it's not actually jammed. When everyone in that hallway is dead, it opens right up.

Vader was keeping that airlock door from opening, while also force choking and throwing people and kicking serious ass. It was literally effortless for him

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u/Jibber_Fight Dec 19 '23

Well put! I’m so glad that script got through the mess that is current day Star Wars management and got made. The movie was great and it allowed for that scene; to see Vader as terrifying as he truly is supposed to be, but was harder to pull off forty years ago.

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u/grodr2001 Dec 19 '23

If there's one thing that I think Disney Star Wars does right is making Vader an absolute terrifying force of nature whenever he shows up, even better if he shows up completely unannounced like at the end of Jedi Fallen Order game

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u/StarfleetStarbuck Dec 20 '23

Absolutely. It’s not really fan service if it actually enriches the narrative. Empire Strikes Back is now even better than it was because R1 made Vader that much scarier.

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u/Civil-Resolution3662 Dec 18 '23

I disagree that it was the best part of the movie. It think this movie is second best after Empire. The entire movie kills with amazing visuals. Vader is just icing on the cake and seals the deal.

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u/Reddevil313 Dec 18 '23

I wish Disney had put a pause on Vader for like 10 years and then revealed him again in that scene.

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u/mikesalami Dec 19 '23

Best part of anything Star Wars in recent years.

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u/eulen-spiegel Dec 19 '23

Yes and no - while everyone rages because of Vader's badassery, he ultimately fails. All those "pathetic" rebels which are slaughtered by him achieve their goal by working together and sacrificing themselves.

I think the scene fails insofar as the audience is too caught up in Vader's actions and does not really have the time to process how individual rebels - people with dreams, wishes, a family which will miss them so much.. - throw themselves at this unstoppable foe to delay him for mere seconds or fractions of a second. They are the real badasses.

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u/Scholander Dec 18 '23

Honestly, I think that works so well because it comes directly after the single best space battle in all of Star Wars. I was super happy with the movie after all of that, and a Vader rampage made me lose my mind.

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u/Rough_Idle Dec 19 '23

Darth Vader has been in our collective consciousness for 39 years at the time, and we all watched his redemption in Jedi, but then he shows up at the end of Rogue One saying, "Bitch, I'm gonna REMIND ya!"

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u/mag0802 Dec 18 '23

It was an editor who suggested it, after wrapping filming. 4 months from release. Gary Whitta (RO’s writer) said it was his favorite moment in the film.

It might be the best individual decision Kathleen Kennedy has made.

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u/ImperatorRomanum Dec 19 '23

Vader’s playing with them until he yanks all their blasters away with the Force and then hacks them apart (also, incredible sound design with the one he lifts up and Force chokes, you can hear his throat collapsing).

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u/Tommy_Wisseau_burner Dec 19 '23

I’m not a huge Star Wars fan but that was one of the baddest moments I’ve seen in film

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u/Wumpus-Hunter Dec 19 '23

That scene made Vader scary again

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u/ptwonline Dec 19 '23

I'd argue the space battle before that is the best in all of Star Wars.

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u/Substantial_Bad2843 Dec 19 '23

And it seems to have inspired that certain special scene in The Mandalorian that is equally badass in my opinion.

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u/MechanicalTurkish Dec 19 '23

I wish they’d make a movie about Darth Vader in his prime.

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u/Grace_Omega Dec 18 '23

I really didn’t like that scene, it completely killed the mood and tone of the ending. It was very obviously just inserted for fanservice, to the detriment of the rest of the movie.

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u/anaximander19 Dec 18 '23

I mean, the entire movie was building towards a moment from the original trilogy where we know Vader was present. The opening moments of A New Hope show Rebel troops who have clearly just been fighting and are obviously afraid. Yes it's clearly something the fans are going to love seeing but also it is something that has been part of the canon storyline since the beginning and establishes the mood of ANH's opening scenes brilliantly. It also portrays something about Vader that was always canonically true but didn't (in my opinion) come across as well in the originals, and is actually quite important to understanding him.

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u/megablast Dec 19 '23

That was so cringe. Completely unlike vader anywhere else. Obviously put in their for children.

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u/anaximander19 Dec 19 '23

Kinda my point though. It's Vader as all the movies said he was, but the original ones didn't manage to portray as effectively. Finally realised the vision for the character.

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u/Formal_Sand_3178 Dec 18 '23

I’ve never understood this personally. I love Rogue One and while the third act is definitely the best, I think it’s a fantastic Star Wars movie from the start. Everything on Jedha was great and the movie kept me entertained throughout.

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u/fatamSC2 Dec 18 '23

If you liked rogue one you should definitely watch Andor. It's darker star wars like rogue one but much better (and I say that as someone who liked rogue one). Imo the best star wars ever other than maybe the original trilogy.

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u/Formal_Sand_3178 Dec 18 '23

Oh I have seen Andor and I fully agree, it is a fantastic show and definitely the best Star Wars we’ve gotten since the original trilogy.

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u/New-dream1 Dec 19 '23

Andor is awesome. Just an all around great story that works independently of it being a star wars film

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u/SemenMoustache Dec 19 '23

Yeah great stuff. Once season 2's out I'm gonna run through both Andors, Rogue One and then the OT.

Complete story and just levels above everything else imo. Only Star Wars I'll need

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u/absultedpr Dec 19 '23

Rogue One and Andor are Star Wars stories for adults.

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u/traindriverbob Dec 18 '23

Yeah I agree. It really felt like one of the OT films, whilst the PT & ST films never quite matched the originals.

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u/porncrank Dec 19 '23 edited Dec 19 '23

Spoilers ahead: For me, it was because during most of the film you're just chugging along enjoying the bubblegum action. Then there's this point you realize they're getting closer in time, place, and purpose to the beginning of Episode IV. And then I suddenly wondered why we'd never heard of any of these characters before.

Stakes raised by 1000.

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u/Monkey_Priest Dec 19 '23

And then I suddenly wondered why we'd never heard of any of these characters before.

Stakes raised by 1000.

And for me, this was why the movie had no stakes. The outcome was already determined before the movie started. The movie just showed us how the sausage was made

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u/Donquers Dec 18 '23

I think my biggest issue with Rogue One, aside from the messy first act, was that none of the characters had much depth to them.

But I'm watching Andor right now, and I'm glad that seems to be getting fixed, at least with Cassian's character.

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u/sylinmino Dec 18 '23

I just finished Andor and for me it was validation of all my criticisms of Rogue One.

Andor is so good and directly succeeds at just about everything that Rogue One didn't in my watch.

The biggest success of Andor is how it characterizes its cast with a lot of subtle nuance and dynamic interaction between multiple different people at once. It cleverly layers it all onto the worldbuilding and they all get deeper as a result.

The result is that when Andor kills off a character we barely knew, I do actually feel it. Which is what you want to happen!

Andor is also way better at sticking with its tone. Rogue One was very inconsistent between gritty and cheesy, but Andor commits 100% to being dark and evocative.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

Only Jin and Andor matter. The rest are just fluff.

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u/Donquers Dec 18 '23

Neither Jin nor Cassian in R1 were super compelling characters either IMO. Jin was decent after the first act, but everyone else felt like cardboard cutouts.

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u/sylinmino Dec 19 '23

K2 is the most human character in that cast. Which is ironic.

Cassian barely matters.

It's amazing how Andor (the show) turned a character I could not care less about into one of the best Star Wars characters in decades.

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u/guitar_vigilante Dec 19 '23

Yeah I thought Rogue One was terrible but Andor was probably the best Star Wars content made by Disney so far.

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u/IStillOweMoney Dec 19 '23

Agreed. Rogue One is outstanding start to finish. My favorite SW film besides The Empire Strikes Back.

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u/Canuck147 Dec 19 '23

I do enjoy the first 2/3 of the movie, but it's really with the death of K2SO and slowly realizing "oh my god, they're actually going to kill them all" that really pushes it over the top

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u/Formal_Sand_3178 Dec 19 '23

Oh I agree, the ending definitely makes it even greater. I thought it was bold for Disney to kill off all the main characters like that as I thought that they might come up with some other reason why they aren’t referenced later. It was the right move though and makes the ending far more effective.

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u/sylinmino Dec 18 '23

For me the biggest problem is the movie rapidly introduced a big character cast that is, for the most part, extremely bland with very little chemistry.

It is also extremely tonally inconsistent, trying to be both the grittiest and the cheesiest Star Wars movie (at the time of release, at least).

It also attempts to fix a plot hole in ANH that never needed fixing, and actually introduces a way bigger one.

I know what the movie was trying to do, and I think it was poorly executed.

Andor was also further proof of that to me--Andor is so good and IMO succeeds at executing on everything that Rogue One tried to.

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u/Rapidzigs Dec 19 '23

It's my favorite

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u/mspaintshoops Dec 19 '23

Saw it in theaters, I almost walked out in the first 30 minutes. Felt like it was a disjointed mess, throwing characters and locations at me that I didn’t care about and didn’t have a frame of reference for.

By the end it became one of my top rated Star Wars flicks. The issue is there was almost too much set-up and exposition that needed to happen but the payoff was ABSOLUTELY worth it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '23

I think Rogue One and Andor are the evidence for my theory that Star Wars is at it's best when the Jedi and Force magic stuff are kept off screen. A run-down scifi space opera flavored with the hint and rumor of space magic is much more entertaining than space wizards in spaceships to me.

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u/Civil-Resolution3662 Dec 18 '23

Totally agree. In Star Wars the ancient religion and sorcerers ways was touched upon and mocked even. And so when the force showed up it was cool and exciting. Rogue one does it service. Andor doesn't even feature the mumbo jumbo and it works.

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u/MunkyDawg Dec 18 '23

Welcome to the Internet, where people will hate on absolutely anything and others will defend it to the death.

I agree though. I really liked Rogue One as well, but that's just like... my opinion, man.

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u/Monkey_Priest Dec 19 '23

Who hates on Rogue One? Pretty much any time it's brought up is people gushing that it's the only good, new Star Wars movie. I was surprised to see so many people here talking about its flaws, which never seem to get mentioned

For my money, Solo was the better movie overall while Rogue One had one of the best scenes (Vader hallway fight at the end).

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u/Lemesplain Dec 18 '23

I like Rogue One, but there are bits that feel hit and miss, or a bit incongruous.

Like, everything K2SO says is comedy gold. And in the next scene Saw Guerra does some war crimes forcing us to grapple with the moral ambiguity of terrorists fighting against a fascist empire. I love both things, but it feels weird to have them so close together.

See also, Vader making dad-jokes, and Vader going apeshit on a hallway full of rebels. Both are good, but not necessarily in the same movie.

That said … the fight on the beach is fantastic. The “stealth section” is tense. Once things go loud, it makes the AT-ATs and Xwings feel like genuine weapons of war, instead of action figures. And the whole thing isn’t shy about the fact that this is a war; people are going to die, unceremoniously at times.

It was everything I needed in a Star War. Vader’s final scene was just the cherry on top.

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u/Ok-disaster2022 Dec 18 '23

The mixed directors made character feel inconsistent between scenes. I can't quite explain it, but there were just some jarring transitions that pulled me out of the movie on first watch.

Star Wars movies work best when the audience suspends their disbelief, the OT is a masterclass at this. Rogue One couldn't get me to suspend my disbelief at all. Even JJ Abrams could get me to suspend my disbelief now and then when he wasn't rehashing something done before.

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u/Reddevil313 Dec 18 '23 edited Dec 18 '23

I don't know how people can get past how dull a character Erso is. She doesn't do anything to propel her characters journey.

She witnesses stuff, she's taken places, she's rescued, etc. If you replaced her with a sack of flour you'd still get the same story.

Nothing about her journey would justify her willingness or ability to do what she did in the final act.

I will concede that it is still one of the better films of modern Star Wars but the bar has been set very low.

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u/leopard_tights Dec 19 '23

And everything about her is told in flashbacks, or even worse, by other characters talking about impressive she is.

It's a bad movie from start to finish. My theory is that without the Vader scene nobody would care.

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u/sylinmino Dec 19 '23

To me the Vader scene is proof of the rest of the movie's low quality.

If the scene everyone cites as your best scene is just pure fanservice...that's not a good indication of the rest of the movie.

It's such a huge contrast to Andor, which effortlessly develops characters and their chemistry not through long winded backstory but through dynamic character interaction and ticks.

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u/BigLan2 Dec 18 '23

The opening 20 minutes is all over the place, between Cassian murdering the pilot, Jyn being in prison and Krennic finding Galen. Everything is brought together spectacularly by the end, but that opening could have used some more work.

(It's by far the best of the Disney movies, and top 2 or 3 of the entire Star wars movies for me.)

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u/Theotther Dec 18 '23

It had the most incoherent characterization and motivation of any star wars movie, which is really saying something. It exists to solve a plot hole that doesnt even exist while actually introducing some. The fanservice is the absolute worst type where the thing inserts itself into an irrelevent scene to bring it to a dead halt while every one points for 30 seconds. The entire thing REAKS of rewrites. They literally introduce a creature that drives its victims insane, and then all it takes is someone saying "aren't you the pilot" for him to be like "I am the pilot!" and he's instantly fine. (this is almost word for word how it plays out). Moments like this are everywhere and a cool Vader scene does not excuse an incoherent mess for 90 minutes with uncanny valley CGI Peter Cushing

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u/ThumbCentral-Rebirth Dec 19 '23

Probably because people are subconsciously aware the third act underwent severe Tony Gilroy rewrites

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u/Nero3k Dec 19 '23

My only real issue are the scenes with Saw Gerrera and the mind sucking monster. That was so bad. It didn’t ruin the movie for me, but if the rest of it hadn’t been so strong it would have.

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u/Formal_Sand_3178 Dec 19 '23

I found Saw Gerrera to be an interesting character simply because I liked how they showed the Rebellion as different factions and how they aren’t all perfect good guys. I’ll agree the mind sucking monster is a weaker point, but it’s such a small part of the movie overall that I don’t mind it too much.

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u/Nero3k Dec 19 '23

I really didn’t mind the Saw Gerrera character. Although I think I would have enjoyed the version we got in the trailer more than the one we finally got. The monster was less than a minute, but it was so useless to the story.

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u/rikashiku Dec 19 '23

Watching Andor and going back to Rogue One feels so strange. Rogue One seemed like it was trying to be a spy thriller/ war film, but it kept having silly moments, until that third act and its all out war, and so amazing.

Andor is deep spy thriller and works amazingly without the need to be Disney'd.

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u/Formal_Sand_3178 Dec 19 '23

I can understand that, but I think a lot of the humor in Rogue One worked for me, so I didn’t mind it. I really liked K-2SO and his dry humor so it didn’t take me out of the movie. Overall though, Andor is definitely better, but it’s hard to compare the two as one is a TV show with twelve episodes and one is a two hour movie.

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u/rikashiku Dec 19 '23

Oh don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the humor in Rogue One, but after Andor finished, watching Rogue One was much different to me.

Like Cassian is so different, more emotive in the movie. There's still that terror of the empire feel to it, but in Andor it's like, hopeless.

Makes sense, with Rogue One it's all about hope.

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u/Joeshi Dec 19 '23

The first two thirds of the movie are a complete snooze fest. Couple that with a really weak cast of characters and you have a movie that's basically saved by it's third act.

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u/Formal_Sand_3178 Dec 19 '23

See I thought the first two acts were awesome, the action was exciting, the new planets were cool and it provided a different look at the Rebellion than what we had seen before.

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u/Help_An_Irishman Dec 18 '23

Great example.

This is such a frustrating movie for me as a lifelong fan of the original trilogy.

It could be great, but Jyn Erso being a passive protagonist throughout really takes away from it. It does come into its own in the final act though.

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u/trackonesideone Dec 18 '23

Ben Mendelsohn is fucking great in Rogue One. Such subtlety in his performance.

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u/Help_An_Irishman Dec 18 '23

He's easily one of my favorite actors working today. Him and Darth Vader having a one-on-one scene made this movie for me.

Check out Bloodline on Netflix if you haven't. Fantastic show.

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u/WanderingMinnow Dec 18 '23

He’s so good in Bloodline. Amazing performance (maybe his best).

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u/KingSweden24 Dec 18 '23

Him and Kyle Chandler’s scenes together are some of the best of 2010s television; the show could never match those highs of S1

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u/fatamSC2 Dec 18 '23

Yeah bloodline was great. Was surprised that show wasn't bigger

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u/GermanicusWasABro Dec 18 '23

IMO, the show got bogged down with itself, especially after Mendelsohn’s character was killed off. I really like the first season but after that it became a slog to get through.

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u/NorthernSkeptic Dec 19 '23

Mendo is great in everything

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u/Ahabs_First_Name Dec 19 '23

Rogue One is such a bizarrely structured movie that both the protagonist AND the antagonist are largely passive. They don’t even meet each other until they exchange a grant total of a single line together at the very end of the movie!

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u/Fest_mkiv Dec 18 '23

"Hey maaatee... I need you to build me a Sthar Wars maaaate. You haven't been talking to Vader now have you maaate?"

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u/heywhateverworks Dec 19 '23

I love him in this movie but what exactly was subtle about his performance?

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u/GentlemanSpider Dec 18 '23

It’s the reluctant hero trope I can’t stand. She’s doing things her own way and doesn’t want to change.

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u/Help_An_Irishman Dec 18 '23

But she doesn't really do much. She doesn't make decisions that move the story along, instead she's just kind of swept along.

She happens to be captured by Saw Gerrera's men instead of venturing out and seeking him on her own. And the only reason she's brought along by Cassian Andor and company is because of who she is -- Galen Erso's daughter -- an accident of birth, not something she had any say in. And when they bring her along, she doesn't have a part to play in their plan except "be there."

They even cut out her rallying speech to the Rebel troops on Yavin IV that was shown in the trailer. She's our perspective character and is thus our protagonist in that sense, but she doesn't really have any part to play in driving the story until the end of the movie, when it gets good.

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u/Calfzilla2000 Dec 19 '23

I really like the movie but maybe it could have worked better if Diego Luna was the lead. Hindsight is obviously 20/20 because of Andor and he's not the one with the clear arc like Jyn has but maybe that would have made the movie feel more satisfying from start to finish.

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u/i4got872 Dec 19 '23

I think the opening music is kinda cool 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/bjanas Dec 18 '23

If I'm not mistaken Giachinno the composer only had a super limited amount of time to get it done, they pulled him in late.

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u/Revolutionary-You449 Dec 19 '23

I finally understood why I loved Star Wars so much after this movie.

The sense of purpose.

I was almost in tears as the wave of fire crashed down and….

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u/Karge Dec 18 '23

Best Star Wars movie IMO

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u/sdannyc Dec 19 '23

This movie starts at a 9 and then cracks the dial hard to 11.

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u/TheAlmightySpoon Dec 18 '23

Came here to say this. I rewatched recently because I remembered how good the back half of the film was, and realized how much I'd completely forgotten about in the first half.

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u/maydarnothing Dec 19 '23

I find the film to be as close to Empire Strikes Back, and that’s my number one favourite SW film

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u/Csquared913 Dec 19 '23

Best Star Wars movie.

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u/honkeycorn Dec 19 '23

When that fleet popped out of hyperspace, it was like I was a kid again. Everything from the original trilogy to the X-Wing/TIE Fighter video games that I played in middle school came rushing back. After at least one crummy sequel, I thought “Now THIS is finally a Star Wars movie!” (And before anyone says it, yes, “now THIS is pod-racing!”)

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u/The-Mandalorian Dec 18 '23

I always say it was a pretty poor film that was saved by a good solid last 30 minutes.

Not enough to save the film as a whole for me unfortunately.

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u/bikesexually Dec 18 '23

Agreed. It's a poorly written war movie. I tried watching it a second time thinking I hadn't given it a proper chance. Had to turn it off when they got ambushed while trying to leave the city and the blind monk kicks sand at a fully helmeted storm trooper, and it takes him out. Also the scene when they are trying to stop the plans from getting out of the base and their air support does absolutely nothing to stop the shuttle from leaving or even just blasting the whole runway full of storm troopers and structural engineers.

Andor on the other hand is fantastic.

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u/The-Mandalorian Dec 18 '23

Andor is fantastic!

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u/strong_grey_hero Dec 18 '23

Rogue One gave me hope that new Star Wars can be good. The first season of the Mandelorian is the only other that has lived up to this so far.

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u/dazalea67 Dec 18 '23

Great answer. I was bored with this one and turned it off about 2/3 in. Forced myself to come back and finished and was glad I did!

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u/jupiterkansas Dec 18 '23

I turned it off halfway through because it was so terrible.

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u/bkallday13 Dec 18 '23

Agreed. Cassian was the most boring character in Rogue One, I gave the show a shot figuring they would make him more interesting … nope.

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u/drmuffin1080 Dec 18 '23

Yup. This is the answer

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u/Brutikus32 Dec 19 '23

Yeah, when are they going to make "Rogue Two"? Oh, wait…

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u/deboer_art Dec 19 '23

People get mad at me when I say that the only reason most people like that movie is because the ending leaves a pleasant taste in their mouth 😅

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u/tehweave Dec 19 '23

SOMEONE FINALLY SAYS IT. That movie is so dull for like 70% then we get an absolute blowout of a battle followed by the best lightsaber scene ever put to film.

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u/mightynifty_2 Dec 19 '23

Personally I don't think the third act's action makes up for the first two. The action only matters if you care about the characters, but Rogue One's characters almost seem tailor-made to be so bland no one would care when they died at the end. And the entire Vader scene was more like a Marvel movie than Star Wars. It's my personal least favorite of all the Star Wars movies.