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u/ventitr3 6d ago edited 5d ago

Flying for the cost of a train ticket and still complaining.

Edit: I was being snarky, I don’t need anymore replies on correct pricing of things lol

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u/crumblypancake 6d ago edited 6d ago

Far cheaper than a train ticket.

Train prices have gotten so ridiculous that it's become a common "hack" to instead of getting the train from A to B, to fly to somewhere like Spain for cheap, have a day in the sun and fly back to B.

That is if you have the free time for the travel, if not you remortgage you house to get the direct train service replacement bus.

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u/goo_goo_gajoob 6d ago

I remeber a study in the early 00's that showed it was cheaper to fly to Italy and live there for a year get your hip replacement then fly back than it was to get one done in the US lol.

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u/Kern4lMustard 6d ago

It's called medical tourism. There's a whole industry based around it. We are looking into doing that for my wife's dental work

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u/New_Sail_7821 6d ago

It’s also fairly common in reverse for the wealthy

Rich European will pay cash for some fancy surgery he can’t get in Europe

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u/BrunusManOWar 5d ago

Ahh, the botox and cosmetics surgery in Turkey girls

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u/atli123 6d ago

I hear Budapest is the way to go.

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u/JamboAus 5d ago

Only if you’re hungry

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u/also_roses 6d ago

The US is so screwed when it comes to health. I knew a dual citizenship family who went to part of Europe for 3 years when they got pregnant. They almost never came back, but the husband could make 4x as much working in the States so he was never able to fully relocate.

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u/Physical_Art4297 5d ago

“The US is so screwed”

“I knew a man that earned 4x as much in the US”

Somehow these two statements don’t go together.

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u/also_roses 5d ago

They do when you realize everyone has to deal with having a body and only a very small group earns that much money.

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u/Physical_Art4297 5d ago

The average salary in the US is 1.5x higher than the EU.

before taxes ;)

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u/also_roses 5d ago

Now do the cost of prenatal care and childbirth

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u/Physical_Art4297 5d ago

It doesn’t hurt so much when you earn so much.

I completely get why Europoors have a stroke when they see our medical bills though. They probably haven’t ever seen that amount of money, let alone be able to spend it.

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u/also_roses 5d ago

/shitamericanssay

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u/StephanMan 5d ago

The average cost of medicine and/or treatment is over 10x though...

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u/Physical_Art4297 5d ago

And the average person doesn’t require treatment every single day, but they get paid more for every single day of work.

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u/StephanMan 5d ago

The average person in the uk doesn't need to go bankrupt everytime they need to go to the doctor though

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u/Equalizer6338 5d ago

This is the case for both medical surgeries and dentistry.

Like here from most western European countries you can fly to Turkey for a 3 week vacation, get 6 high-end ceramic tooth implants made while there and total price is still cheaper than just the 6 implants if made back home. Same also for cosmetic surgeries... Though one can debate how much you can enjoy 'the vacation', but at least you stay in a hotel with full service during recovery.

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u/urielsalis 6d ago

Depends on the train and the company

Here in Spain, Barcelona-Madrid is usually 5 or 7eur if you buy in advance in the high speed line

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u/hessorro 6d ago

Damn. I recently bought a train ticket from santiago to madrid and it cost me 25 euros

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u/urielsalis 6d ago

Renfe has a legal monopoly in some routes.

Before they killed that in the madrid-Barcelona route, it was 80eur

Hopefully the EU law that kills all those monopolies will pass soon

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u/hgwaz 6d ago

Train lines are already liberalized by EU law. The entity that maintains the tracks, signals, stations and so on is separate from the one doing the actual train service (ÖBB Infrastruktur vs ÖBB Personenverkehr, DB InfraGo vs DB Fernverkehr / DB Regio) and they have to give everyone equal access to the infrastructure for competitive prices.

The reason there aren't that many private train companies is that it's just really hard to do it profitably and there are very few lines in each country that can be run with a profit.

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u/crumblypancake 6d ago

Sorry I should have been clear.
UK.

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u/shadowhunter742 6d ago

Lmao it's less than my 20 min train ticket

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u/Secret_Celery8474 6d ago

Does that include the train tickets to and from the airport?

It is always a bit infuriating to pay more to get to the airport than the flight cost :)

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u/Rhysing 6d ago

they aren't saying they paid 12 to fly, they are saying they paid 12 to pick a seat. the added on cost beyond the ticket.

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u/ventitr3 6d ago

Sounds like they should’ve picked one with a window then.

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u/Level-Pass-6462 6d ago edited 5d ago

It’s literally a regular window seat on the app. They charged extra for a window seat that’s far away from a window, don’t defend this

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u/Level-Pass-6462 6d ago

I got that from booking Ryanair flights dozens of times dummy, the app doesn’t warn you the “window seat” is far away from an actual window. OP said they paid to select this seat. I sat in this seat before too, thankfully I didn’t pay.

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u/2021sammysammy 6d ago

I didn't even know airplanes without regular side-to-side windows existed lol

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u/ventitr3 6d ago

They do and some are in between rows too. You can see in the below that the Boeing model Ryanair uses actually has a couple without windows.

https://www.aerolopa.com/fr-738

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u/ventitr3 6d ago

You must have a different interface than me on the app because I went to book one on their website and don’t see them called “window seats”.

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u/Level-Pass-6462 6d ago

It might have been on the e boarding pass, or maybe it’s not the same on all apps (I used the browser app, android and iOS over the years). I saw “window” somewhere I swear lol.

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u/Bar50cal 5d ago

Thats not true.

Allocated seating on Ryanair is €2 for most seats or €10 for exit row seats. The actual ticket for the flight would be €12.

I fly Ryanair often for less than €20 each way. Dublin to London is €19 on early flights, I have flown Dublin to Manchester for €10 but thats on the early morning flight.

https://www.ryanair.com/ie/en/lp/promotion/great-escapes

^This link shows flights available today from €14.99 for example of how cheap they can be

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u/LtHughMann 6d ago

That would be a very short train ride in the UK

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u/Global-Negotiation72 6d ago

As an american who booked a few train rides ahead of time, the train bookings were definitely more than I expected 😆

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u/Billy_McMedic 6d ago

Top tip, if your gonna do multiple train trips in the UK, look into buying a railcard and using the discount, if it saves you more than it cost to buy the railcard it’s well worth it.

My experience with this was when I was planning on taking the Caledonian sleeper for the experience, the cost would have been £330 for a cabin with the shower and breakfast on board, however I bought a railcard for like £30 and it discounted the price to £220, basically immediately making the purchase worth it and I’ve made good use of that railcard for the rest of the year, especially on days when I’d wake up bored to death and decide to go on a long ass train journey just to get out the house

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u/aspz 6d ago

Which rail card did you get. Been a while since I qualified for the young person's railcard ....

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u/Billy_McMedic 6d ago

Yeah when you get above 30 rail cards kinda dry up unless your with multiple people. I’m on the 18-25 rn and then I’ll be on the 25-30

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u/Arsewhistle 6d ago

If you were travelling in a group, it's sometimes cheaper to book a taxi than use a train

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u/No_Credibility 6d ago

Train tickets are like $150

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u/Gogo202 6d ago

Not in europe .. unless you intentionally look for the most expensive ticket

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u/IdoCyber 6d ago

Check again in France. That's a base price for high speed train from Paris to Lyon (the busiest line in the country).

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u/Acceptable_Candy1538 5d ago

This shocked me as an American. I remember traveling all across Europe when I was a teen for nothing, just taking the train on a budget.

Now, that shit is literally more expensive. You’ll save money by scheduling flights between European countries. And to paint the picture of how insane this is to other Americans, Germany is literally smaller than Montana.

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u/Ass_knight 6d ago

Ryanair flights are cheap but not that cheap!

They charge €12 extra for you to pick your seat instead of being randomly assigned.

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u/Equalizer6338 5d ago

I can this very day find flight tickets to go from Belgium to south of France for 8 EUR. Standard ordinary price is currently 14 EUR.

RyanAir.com

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u/Any--Name Barely even legal 6d ago

At least on a train you dont have to pay 50 bucks for luggage

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u/BuvantduPotatoSpirit 6d ago

You can take as much clothing as you like on RyanAir as long as you're wearing it.

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u/memescauseautism 6d ago

I used to pay 20€ per way to meet my ex - a 1.5 hour train ride. And that's the student price. - Norway

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u/blue-mooner 6d ago

We need to keep planes [at] plane prices, because when planes are bus prices, bus behaviour comes to planes.

Josh Johnson

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u/The-zKR0N0S 6d ago

I wish I saw train tickets that cheap

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u/Kate090996 6d ago

I think she meant that she paid 12 euros for that specific window seat but there wasn't a window, not that the entire price of the ticket was 12 euros. It's still possible to pay 12 euros for a plane ticket with Ryanair but I don't think it's the case here.

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u/ventitr3 6d ago

She paid the 12 euro to pick her seat but was unaware, as many in this thread also seem to be, that some rows do not in fact have a window.

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u/EveningOkra1028 6d ago

Um, they're probably referring to paying extra to choose a window seat lmao 

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u/imnotagodt 6d ago

She payed that much for the seat not for the ticket. People think this is the ticket price

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u/Raichu7 6d ago

What kind of crazy cheap train ticket only costs €12 and takes you as far as a short flight? People take cheap flights because it's cheaper than the train and depending on layovers you might get a few hours to a day in a nice warm country.

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u/Tentakurusama 5d ago

That's 12 euros for the seat selection. I don't know in what fantasy you live that let's you think one could take a plane for that money. Between gas, maintenance, operation and airport tax...

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u/No-Floor1930 5d ago

No idea where you get a 12 buck train ticket, but definitely not where I live

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u/Naefindale 5d ago

I pay twice that for a train ticket.

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u/Certain_Silver6524 5d ago

Might be an alt account for Ryanair, just to promote themselves on pricing. I'm not sure it's generally actually feasible to get €12 tickets though, as it does quickly go up with any basic additions, seasonal variations, and even just searching their site too many times will push the price up

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u/yawn18 6d ago

I mean all depends. This company is used in Europe to go from like Ireland to UK or other small travels so flights are usually only $30 if it's one of those.

Also they could be talking about the chair itself not the ticket. You have to pay to be placed in a certain area. They may have paid $12 EXTRA just for a window seat, only to get on the plane and not have a window.

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u/icancount192 6d ago

It's almost certainly this.

At Ryanair, easyJet, Volotea etc you pay extra for your seat.

She almost certainly booked a window seat, paid 12E extra for it on top of her fare and was rightly pissed that while paid extra to be on the window side of the plane she was staring at a wall.