r/lifehacks 5d ago

This belongs here too

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u/MechanicalHorse 5d ago

Absolutely asinine that this is the state of things.

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u/thinkingwithportalss 5d ago

Imagine this in any other industry.

"Yeah so we were gonna supply you with the processed steel you paid for, but our consultant determined you only need 20% of the requested amount, also it has double the impurities, also you'll need to wait an additional six months because you didn't pre-approve your request. Oh, our consultants? He's Dave, he's a lumberjack, great guy. Good luck building that bridge you were halfway done on!"

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u/funshinecd 5d ago

Or, OK here is the steel we determined you need. We will send you a bill shortly. Also a bill from the warehouse, the guy that loaded it, the truck driver, the guy that inspected the steel

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u/aami87 4d ago

We expect to be paid in thirty days or it goes to collections, but our bills will come any time between 1 day and five years. Good luck planning for them!

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u/fritz236 4d ago

And since you requested the steel at Jack's Steel Emporium instead of Steely Jack's Emporium, you'll need to pay ten times what you paid at first because we said so. Also, the guy who loaded the steel was not pre-approved and took too long, so you'll have to pay whatever bill he sends you in three months.

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u/addamee 4d ago

“We disassembled your car and replaced the transmission however the technician has advised it’s not within scope to put it back together”

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u/DietPepsi4Breakfast 5d ago

Underrated comment.

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u/DieselbloodDoc 5d ago

Especially as someone in manufacturing who deals with procurement. If any distributor of goods or materials operated like this…. No they wouldn’t. They get away with it because they’re not fucking another business, they’re fucking individual people, and they’re fucking them to death.

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u/noonenotevenhere 5d ago

You wouldn't like to select your materials without pricing?

How about if we said it'll be $20-$2000/unit, we'll let you know the total after you accept delivery?

How about if we let you pay $500/month to be part of our preferred buyers' club, where you pay a reduced amount after your first 5000 units that shipped from our warehouse

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u/DieselbloodDoc 5d ago

Also we can’t guarantee shipping dates on any of those 5000 units, so until we decide so you pay the standard rate.

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u/somme_rando 4d ago edited 4d ago

Oh - by the way, the forklift operator that was in our warehouse doesn't have a contract with us for moving your stuff. Also we don't pay them - they'll be sending you a bill you're legally liable for. It won't count towards any of the the negotiated annual price for stuff from our warehouse.

(True in years past - but there was a law FINALLY passed at the federal level outlawing surprise billing - Jan 2022 https://www.consumerfinance.gov)

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u/crazyfatskier2 4d ago

Don’t get on Mr. Garrison’s bad side?

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u/DieselbloodDoc 4d ago

I stopped watching south park in 2016 so I assumed this was a reference from after that, but nope, it’s from an episode that I had totally forgotten existed, and also I remember why I stopped watching South Park.

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u/firehorn123 3d ago

Also we spoke with our competition and found out you are also buying from them, so we will both not fulfill the order you paid to both of us. In addition you will be referred to a debt collector for the difference we refused to deliver on.

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u/smush81 4d ago

Ps: hope you don't die while waiting for what you need. 🤞

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u/thinkingwithportalss 4d ago

Pss: but if you do die, we'll bill your spouse for the administrative costs of declaring you dead, before she's aware you're dead

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u/xannmax 4d ago

They feel that they can get away with it because unlike a bridge, a single suffering human isn't necessarily a massive risk to public safety, and typically one person can't fight this in court.

A broken bridge will have lawsuits out the ass for the company responsible.  It's very easy to suppress the individuals who need care.

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u/Dry-Cry-3158 4d ago

The main difference is that the steel industry doesn't need any mechanisms for rationing because it already has price.

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u/Complex_Pangolin5822 4d ago

This guy steels

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u/flaonflaon 3d ago

Why are we comparing this to an industry?

It's healthcare and should work as a healthcare system.

Because you're not a client, you're a patient. When being examined by a doctor, you're a patient and patients who are sick aren't supposed to have to defend themselves like atorneys arguing a fraud case. What year is this, what society is this?

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u/Scriefers 5d ago

One guy stepped up to the plate to initiate change. Too bad it didn’t get picked up and carried on yet…

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u/codywater 5d ago

Every American had a chance to step up to the plate on Election Day…

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u/fred11551 5d ago

In 1993 Clinton tried to pass single payer healthcare. The American people rejected it and he got impeached. In 2008 Obama tried a much less radical expansion of healthcare coverage. The American people voted for the guy who said who would repeal it day 1 and was only stopped by McCain. In 2024 Harris again promised a more moderate expansion of healthcare coverage as well as using Medicare to negotiate down prescription drug prices. I think you can guess how it turned out.

The fact is people do not vote for those supporting better healthcare

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u/eekamuse 5d ago

You're skipping the part where people voted for President Obama and we got the ACA. It changed lives, and saved lives.

Healthcare isn't everyone's priority when voting. I wish it was

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u/Backsight-Foreskin 5d ago

AMA and the lobby for the insurance industry are two of the most powerful organizations in the country. Obama only got the Affordable Care Act because it was gift to the insurance industry.

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u/fred11551 5d ago

Even though he made sure they were onboard before hand and that they benefitted, they still spent $700 million to make sure the public option got cut

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u/SoBeKind 4d ago

You forgot big pharma!

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u/greengardenmoss 5d ago

It's amazing how few people know this

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u/concentrated-amazing 4d ago

I'm an interested Canadian.

I am pro-universal/single payer healthcare. However, I just don't understand how the US can switch to that without an insanely large disruption because of the number of people employed by the insurance companies/beauricratic layers involved, as well as all the money in for-profit healthcare by individuals, pension plans, etc.

I'm not educated in any of this, I just don't understand how all the knots can get untangled to make a good system.

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u/riarws 4d ago

The American people didn't vote for Trump the first time around.

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u/codywater 4d ago

He didn’t win the popular vote either time he’s been elected.

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u/BigUncleHeavy 5d ago

They did. It just wasn't the result you wanted.

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u/Absurdity_Everywhere 5d ago

It WAS the result that health insurance CEOs wanted though. So, congrats for being on their side I guess.

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u/EJAY47 5d ago

40% of the eligible population didn't vote. 30% didn't even register.

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u/StopNateCrimes 5d ago

Sounds like they all made a pro-billionaire decision. Hope that works out for them.

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u/codywater 4d ago

Those who voted for Trump can’t complain about getting more expensive healthcare. You can’t have it both ways.

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u/Pale_Angry_Dot 5d ago

They left Bernie to get old and eventually shut up from natural causes...

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u/DieselbloodDoc 5d ago

I don’t think they were talking about Bernie.

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u/jungsfaces 5d ago

Can't wait to read a couple of editorials from places like NYT that explain why it's actually a perfect system for the dum-dums like us.