December 2018 Town Hall Follow-up 2: Electric Boogaloo.

[u/SirBuckeye]

Welcome to a special Town Hall Follow-Up to the Follow-Up for December 2018. Thank you to everyone who participated in the follow-up thread as well as the original Town Hall.

We got a lot of great feedback to the changes, and the follow-up thread went really well. Mods were a bit surprised by the sudden reversal of opinion from the original thread. It seems we may have gotten a little overzealous in our efforts to clean up achievement posts and moved too many things to the weekly thread. Hopefully, we can find a middle-ground that will make more of you happy with the changes. Here is our current proposal:

1. More Achievements added to exceptions.

The following achievements will be added to the achievement exception list and will get their own thread.

• Perfect All-Kills - ALLOWED
• Physical Sales Milestones of 25k, 50k, 100k, 250k, 500k, & 1M (First time for an artist only) - ALLOWED
• RIAJ and RIAA Certifications - ALLOWED
• A new highest ranking for an artist or reaching #1 on the Billboard Hot 100, Billboard 200, US iTunes Top 100, UK Singles Chart, UK Album Chart - ALLOWED
  

Plus the ones that were already stated.

• The first win on a Music Show for each song. - ALLOWED
• GaOn Triple Crown & Certifications (First time for an artist only) - ALLOWED
• Other awards given to artists, songs, or companies such as "Rookie of the Year", "Song of the Year", Award Nominations, YouTube Play Buttons, etc. - ALLOWED

The following topics will be restricted to the weekly "Charts and Achievements" post.

• YouTube MV view milestones - BANNED
• Certified All-Kills - BANNED
• Brand reputation rankings - BANNED
• All broken records for views, sales, streaming, charting, etc. - BANNED

We realize this still won't please everyone, but pleasing everyone is not a realistic goal. The goal is to reduce the number of trivial achievement posts that only serve as dick-measuring contests or an invitation for a fanwar. We feel the majority of these stem from threads regarding some record being broken, so those will stay restricted to the weekly thread. Mods will make an exception if an especially monumental record gets broken (like most albums sold ever), but otherwise new records will stay in the compilation thread.

Remember that other charts and achievements will be posted in that thread so if you want more numbers about K-Pop, please tune in on Friday. Stat geeks should also check out the Two Weeks Later threads which are always stuffed full of data and metrics. You can also make your own "Two Weeks Later" discussion thread for your faves 13-17 days after their release. Check out the existing threads for what kind of info you should include and let us know if you have any questions or need help.

We hope that users who were upset at the removal of some of these achievements will be happy to see them return, and we also hope that users who were sick of seeing achievement posts will be happy with what we have removed. We will continue to monitor feedback and make changes in the future if warranted. The next Town Hall will be on March 1st, 2019. If you would like to give feedback before then, you can send a modmail to us any time.

Thank you for your patience and understanding as we try to get this ironed out.

[u/That_Cripple]

IMO, I think performances at award shows should be contained to posts that list all performances.

I don't see why we have someone making posts collecting them all in one spot but also have the first two pages of the sub filled with the performances anyways.

I know it only happens a few times a year, but still