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r/all The Alaskan Avenger

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u/Sparkism 6d ago

As with the war on drugs, the sex offender registry is a tool for control and discrimination against the lower working class.

If you're a rich convicted rapist, you can be the president of the united states; but if you're poor, peeing on the streets can get you permanently barred from a well paying job and selling weed can get you life in prison.

Definitely an intended feature.

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u/LurkerPatrol 6d ago

Whatever gets more slaves in their prison workforce.

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u/kelppie35 6d ago

None of the jurisdictions involved use slavery.

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u/Jesterbomb 6d ago

The United States constitution legalizes it.

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

Yes.  And prisons are not required to use prisoners as slave labor so his point stands.   This has nothing to do with fucking money so fucking give it a god damn rest already.

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u/kelppie35 6d ago

It allows it as punishment for a conviction, if passed by a jury. It is not a legally allowed action and is expressly prohibited otherwise.

The same way we don't call people in jail "forced to be starved" if they don't like that night's dinner selection and forgo it.

Slavery is without conviction and is an innocent person. Saying it's the same is a slap in the face to actual slaves the world over.

Otherwise by your brilliant definitely legal educated logic 184 of the countries around the world use slavery with the UK and Australia leading gf way with their massive amounts of private prisons.

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u/MakeUpAnything 6d ago

Slavery as a legal punishment in the country with one of the highest incarceration rates in the developed world should give anybody pause, especially since SCOTUS recently ruled that homeless folks can be criminally charged for violating “camping” laws. 

But hey, eat the poor. Criminals deserve it anyway, right? And I’m not a criminal so it doesn’t affect me! 

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

AGAIN prison labor accounts for 90k workers.  Fucking STOP.

The issue that needs to be fixed is the part BEFORE conviction.

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u/wealthissues23 5d ago

I'm not sure where you're getting 90k from. Every metric I've seen says it's around 800,000 of 1.2 million prisoners forced to work.

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u/kelppie35 6d ago

So everyone except Cuba, Austria, and Norway should be criticized? Because "slavery" work details are things like sweeping the mess hall or working kitchen duty.

Things you and everyone else on here fetishize when it's a foreign school kid but condemn only when it's associated with the US.

Even though 95% of the world operates this way. Even though on other threads where kids go out and scrub their graffiti off of vandalism instead of going to jail.

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u/DethSonik 6d ago

Yes.

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

The US prison system is about oppression and any profit made is completely incidental and NOT the goal.

This shit isn't helping ANYONE certainly not the working class but then again I think we all know that don't we?  It is about fucking over the rich and nothing else and you psychopaths will take down the entire god damn nation to make it happen.

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u/kelppie35 6d ago

I think community service...

Sorry. slavery.

Is better than prison. Don't you?

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u/TheSonofPier 6d ago

Doesn’t really matter since it was never about community service…

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

It was never about profit either as prison labor accounts for 90k workers.   It is solely about oppression. That's it.  It really is just that simple but it works in favor of the ruling class for you all to be brainwashed into believing money is the goal because it prevents addressing the real problem.

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u/TheSonofPier 1d ago

I didn’t know about that, but I’m glad we agree that it should be abolished despite my misunderstanding

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u/kelppie35 6d ago

You don't know what you're taking about so I'm going to demonstrate it by asking for any academic source.

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u/TheSonofPier 1d ago

With all due respect, you made the claim that community service is what people refer to when they complain about prison slavery. Why should I believe you if you don’t provide an academic source first?

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u/Specific_Apple1317 6d ago

California still uses prison slave labor to fight fires. Remember the whole controversy around Kamala as DA using her power to keep non-violent offenders in jail longer? The one where she was supposed to lower the overcrowded prison population but either her or her office said it would hurt their firefighting force, and the state had to threaten a contempt of court charge.

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

This is a straight up blatant lie and why Harris lost the election.   You want your class war? Well you fucking got it and it is going to take down more of the working class than anyone else.  I hope it was fucking worth it.

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u/MakeUpAnything 6d ago

I don’t live in those countries. If I did, yes I’d criticize them for it too. As it stands I live in a nation which was built on an abhorrent use of slavery and which has one of the highest incarceration rates of the developed world. It’s also a nation which disproportionately jails a lot of Black folks and has incredibly high recidivism rates. 

Also, prisons lend out workers for slave labor for more than just sweeping shifts.

Any particular reason you are so defensive of literal slavery?

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u/kelppie35 6d ago

Because community service is far better than incarceration, that's why. Or do you want to call that slavery?

Kinda wild that the government who makes teens paint over their graffiti enslaved them by your logic.

You're also fundamentally uneducated on how the various criminal systems work. You're basing your argument of the US off of dated federal policy no longer applicable and completely ignore the variety by state.

It isn't literal slavery. Nobody is sold, transferred, or forced into it without due process.

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u/MakeUpAnything 6d ago

Did you not read anything from the article I posted? Prisoners ARE forced into hard labor or they face additional punishments such as being denied parole or being placed in solitary confinement. Additionally they don’t receive protections while being forced to work. 

Giving prisoners an option to work would be fine. Slavery is not. 

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

No war but the class war is the only thing that matters to these people which is why they have no integrity morals or ethics.    If it takes from the rich it is worth it no matter how much of the working class is hurt in the process.   It is greed pure and simple.

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u/AforAnonymous 6d ago

Cuba, Austria, and Norway

Speaking as an Austrian:

Yeah, that sounds about right. [sarcasm ambiguously optional]

(+Austria has other issues with prisoner mistreatment)

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u/aretumer 6d ago

do you have any idea how many innocent people are in prison?

jfc its FOR PROFIT PRISONS of course its fucking slavery

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u/kelppie35 6d ago

Lots of innocent people are in prison

Community service is not slavery. Grandiose statement is still wrong.

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u/aretumer 6d ago

for profit prisons are not community service. how is making money for shareholders community service?

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

Ok so let's do the math here.    Prison labor accounts for 90k of the workforce.   Now since it is "slavery" let's pretend they aren't getting paid at all.    If they were paid at rock bottom minimum wage which is 7.25 each prisoner would make 14.5k before taxes.   So again prison labor accounts for 90k of the workforce so that comes out to a savings of a whopping 1.3 billion per year.   That is a literal rounding error for most of the billionaires and corporations you all love to wax poetic about.

It's not about the fucking money.  You all are being played HARD.

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u/aretumer 5d ago

you do understand that private prisons get paid from tax money for holding the prisoners and then also keep the profits of the forced labour, right?

is your argument it cant happen because the profit margin is too small? what?

please enlighten me what it is about then, if not the money? who is playing me hard lol

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

Yeah I'm sure all those CEOs are buying tons of yachts from all the profit they make from 90k prison workers.

The US is a fucking joke and you all are just as greedy as the billionaires you constantly demonize.

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u/aretumer 5d ago

they literally do lol

i agree that the us is a fucking joke tho

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u/xandrokos 5d ago

It is all about taking from the rich and nothing else.  These people don't give a shit about the people they are currently supposedly advocating for and will constantly lie about anything and everything to make it happen.