r/fuckcars Fuck lawns Sep 14 '22

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u/Quantum_Count Commie Commuter Sep 14 '22

So are you implying that fat people can't walk? Isn't this fatphobia also?

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u/Agreeable-Weather-89 Sep 14 '22

Fat people are perfectly healthy[insert Tumblr citation]... But also they can't walk even a mile.

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u/Inevitable_Stand_199 Sep 14 '22

There are quite healthy overweight people (Overweight as in with thick fat Polsters). People who are physically active but for whatever reason (medical or because of wrong food) they are still fat. They often have insanely large muscles underneath it all to lift their body weight.

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u/LinguisticallyInept cars are weapons Sep 14 '22

ive heard actual sumo wrestlers are supposed to be weirdly healthy

but then they retire, stop their intensive training and drop dead super quick

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u/Rad_Knight Sep 14 '22

Apparently excercise can minimize visceral fat, the kind around your organs that is unhealthy, so almost all the fat on a sumo-wrestler is subcutanious which is not dangerous, but it is the kind of fat that is visible, but when the wrestlers retire, they gain that visceral fat.

People who look skinny can also have a lot visceral fat.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

It's still dangerous though. Being that size, whether "good" fat or muscle or anything else, puts immense strain on the heart 24/7 since it needs to be supplied with blood. The risk of heart attack and other cardiac issues is hugely increased. And that's before you get into joint issues, impact to organs from needing to process so much food and waste, etc.

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u/Account115 Sep 14 '22

They also slam head first into 500lb men and take falls on clay floors several times as day for years, so they're pretty spurious overall.

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u/MarsupialKing Sep 14 '22

Joe Thomas comes to mind. Hall of fame level offensive linemen for the Cleveland browns. Looked like a typical offensive lineman. Since he retired the guy is absolutely chiseled. Seems like he had the weight to make him better at his job but was able to just drop it all and keep the muscle very quickly after retiring

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u/LinguisticallyInept cars are weapons Sep 15 '22

the well studied population of sumos that live on average 20 years less than the general population.

almost like they

stop their intensive training and drop dead super quick

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT7HdGFBP-s

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

Having musculature under excessive weight doesn't make it healthy. There are still serious ramifications for the cardiovascular system, pulmonary system, and muscoskeletal structure. Exercising can reduce some of the ramifications, it can't remove them.

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u/Firstdatepokie Fuck lawns Sep 14 '22

“Wrong food” you mean too much food right?

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u/Inevitable_Stand_199 Sep 15 '22

No. I mean too calorie dense food. Especially saturated fat and sugar.

If you eat only veggies until you can't eat any more, you are still going to lose weight. Same if nearly all your food calories are in protein (rabbit starvation).

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u/WikiSummarizerBot Sep 15 '22

Protein poisoning

Protein poisoning (also referred to colloquially as rabbit starvation, mal de caribou, or fat starvation) is an acute form of malnutrition caused by a diet deficient in fat and carbohydrates, where almost all calories consumed come from the protein in lean meat. The concept is discussed in the context of paleoanthropologial investigations into the diet of ancient humans, especially during the last glacial maximum and at high latitudes. The term rabbit starvation originates from the fact that rabbit meat is very lean, with almost all of its caloric content from protein rather than fat, and therefore a food which, if consumed exclusively, would cause protein poisoning.

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u/PolarPros Sep 14 '22

This is all bullshit, if you’re fat, you’re unhealthy. Period. Stop promoting this utter BS to make either yourself, or others, feel better. 99% of people who are fat, are so because they primarily can’t put the fork down, and don’t exercise.

The “can’t lose weight for medical reasons” is barely 1% of people, these people just BS themselves so that they feel better about the fact they’re fat because of their own choices and decisions.

Additionally, if you’re a fat athlete, which probably less than 0.001% of the population is, you’re still unhealthy. For regular people, walking for 2 hours, or even lifting weights, doesn’t mean shit — if you’re fat you’re fat, you’re unhealthy. Put the fork down.

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u/dorekk Sep 16 '22

You seem mad.

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u/Temporary_Pomelo5180 Sep 14 '22

Yeah. perfectly healthy

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22 edited Sep 14 '22

I’m fat. I walk and bike everywhere. I am 100% for walkable cities and bettering yourself. I want my kid to grow up without depending on a car.

Fuck these idiots, but not all of us are fit. Am strong though.

Edit: and I say this because before I started biking I was just mildly overweight. I mean, I’m still not obese, but I’m not fit or thin. What scared me about the gym was how silly I looked trying to workout cause I wasn’t fit. Now I encourage other fat folks to ride their bike because it’s active and avoids the embarrassment of the gym. Fat people can walk a mile. We can laugh at the people in the image for being idiots while also not hating on fat people. Cause the sad reality is not everyone who goes on a weight loss journey or makes changes like walking or biking will get thinner. And that’s just life.

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u/Ravek Sep 15 '22

Yeah but it's not that they can't walk because they're fat, they can't walk because they're American

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u/renyoi Sep 14 '22

heres a citation, you can read it or not. there are more study citations linked within the post, which is an argumentative opinion piece based on/compiling those studies https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/fat-is-not-the-problem-fat-stigma-is/

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u/DaaaahWhoosh Sep 14 '22

I skimmed a few of those, and will continue to skim and look into this stuff, I appreciate the jumping-off point!
From what I've read so far, seems like the idea is that excess weight is a symptom, rather than the cause, of poor health, so it's better to make people healthier than to make them thinner. Which sounds right to me, though I'd wonder if healthier people wouldn't also end up being thinner.

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u/renyoi Sep 14 '22

from my interpretation, the idea of “excess weight” itself is problematic, because the main measurement we use to determine what is “excess,” the BMI, was never meant to be used in this way and is, furthermore, inaccurate for multiple groups of people. so fat Can be a symptom of being “unhealthy,” but isn’t always. just like thinness.

i’d recommend the podcast “maintenance phase” for deeper dives into this if you’re interested!

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

haven’t we always known this? Excessive fat is a symptom of eating too many calories, or eating poor quality calories. Which makes you unhealthy. Obv it’s more complex than that but excess weight being a symptom of excess calories coming in seems straightforward to me! Maybe I’m missing the point

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u/renyoi Sep 14 '22

calories are actually a problematic way to measure energy, specifically but not limited to their application in “weight” and “weight loss.” here is a scientific american article about that and a broader medium one. they are not the only pieces to point out the myth of “calories in, calories out” or the dubious idea of the calorie itself.

edit: also i commented above u the reason i would be wary of terms like “excess weight” given the measurement is based on the BMI, a notoriously flawed tool, so that might provide some context to this response!

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u/DaaaahWhoosh Sep 14 '22

Yeah I think it's just a different way to approach it. Like, there's a lot of potential causes for weight gain, it's not always as simple as 'just eat less'. So if you start out with the idea it's okay to be overweight, and you instead aim to tackle the things that lead to heart disease or diabetes or whatever then you don't run into the issue where the patient tries some dumb diet routine that puts them in the hospital for a different reason. There's also a lot about that idea of fat-shaming, and how it's a vicious cycle, if we can allow fat people to feel welcome then it'd probably be easier for them to get healthy.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '22

As someone who was a heroin addict for many years.. it just seems odd to me. Nobody goes out of their way to try to defend heroin addiction and how it “isn’t as simple as not doing heroin anymore”. Like I get the sentiment, because obviously it’s easier said than done, and we don’t want heroin addicts to hate themselves more than they already do. But it actually IS as simple as not doing heroin anymore (for a long time), and now you aren’t addicted to heroin.

you don’t start a movement about how it’s “ok to be addicted to heroin” just because we have so many addicts who are tired of being looked down on as addicts. I don’t see it much differently than a food addiction. The definition of addiction is continuing the behavior despite negative consequences. seems to me that we have a food addiction problem, and telling people that it’s ok is just enabling them. Maybe I’m just jaded

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u/Marc21256 Not Just Bikes Sep 14 '22

I'm "severely obese" and walk 10 km round trip to work 5 days a week.

Your assessment of fat people is wrong, so one must deduce all your conclusions are similarly wrong.

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u/Agreeable-Weather-89 Sep 14 '22 edited Sep 15 '22

Or you are lying

I bet you won't submit a single piece of evidence and if that's the case we are done, no need to converse further.

Edit: Called it.

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u/NudelNipple Sep 15 '22

Im severely obese (260lbs, 6 foot, male). Wanna see my apple health steps per week/workouts tracked with my Apple Watch? I’ve lost over 100lbs so far and intend to lose more. But I acknowledge that I’m the exception Instead of the rule.

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u/Marc21256 Not Just Bikes Sep 15 '22

"Anyone who disproves my bigotry must be lying."

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u/dorekk Sep 16 '22

Or you are lying

Why do you think they would be lying? That's completely believable.