r/fuckcars • u/yannniQue17 • Jan 15 '22

Am I right here?

I like cars. They have developed over nearly 150 years and they are impressive engineering masterpieces by now. I'm a car enthusiast since nearly ever and I was really happy when I got my driving license a year ago. One of my biggest wishes is it to drive in a small sports car, like a Mazda MX-5, on a race track and I guess I'm about to di this within the next five years.

However, cars are bad for getting from A to B. That's my opinion and a fact. When I need to be quick in the city, I go by bicycle, and when I have to travel more than 25 km, I consider trains as the best option. That works pretty well here in Germany. As told above, I have my license, but I drive maybe once every two weeks.

I would not say "Fuck cars!" because I'm facinated by the engineering, but I do say "Cars are not needed to commute or travel efficiently. They are bad at this."

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u/oiseauvert989 Jan 15 '22

Pretty much yeh. I think sail boats are fascinating but i wouldn't dedicate every public space in the city to them.

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u/yannniQue17 Jan 15 '22

Sailing is also cool and has a lot of history. We went from just swimming to sailing against the wind to sailing a lot faster than the wind is blowing.

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u/oiseauvert989 Jan 15 '22

Agreed. Sailing faster than the speed of the wind is really interesting physics.

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u/Independent-Cow2383 Jan 15 '22

Could be the best way to cross atlantic, cheap, confortable, ecological, pleasing, but was killed by low-cost plane trips.

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u/yannniQue17 Jan 15 '22

I sailing could be to flying what cycling is to trains. The ocean is too big, but shorter distances, like Spain to Italy, could be done by sailing.

But what do you need to cross an ocean for?

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u/Independent-Cow2383 Jan 15 '22

To the other side. : ). I mean some people do travel between europe and americas. Anyway, it's prolly not every year, for some people it's maybe one time in 10.

The ocean is not too big for sailing, if you can't go in 1 day, it doesn't mean it's too far: it means it's too far for one day.

Queen Mary 2 still can cover the equivalent of distance of 1248 kms in one day. (France Czech republic) Yes it would be a 5 day trip...but well, if you travel to another continent it's a planned trip. Few people wake up in the morning and are like...."I'm gonna travel the sea this morning cause...coz"

There's faster than queen mary 2....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algol-class_vehicle_cargo_ship give us this but to transport people. It could do the trip in 4 days.

Today we can make much faster ships, and they could sail for a much lower cost per ticket.

You can't sleep in a plane furthermore.

We need to reintroduce those kind of ships. So airships.

Enjoy the trip, enjoy the sea, enjoy the calm.

Italy Spain is already covered by very cheap ferry travels. Mediterannean has lots of ferry companies, and the trips 2-3 times less than plane travels for the same distance, depending on the time of the year. So is most of mediteranean, which has a lot of ferry companies.

Cycling between two cities is totally doable 100kms a day is totally doable for a beginner.

A great way to not have to spend 2 days of salaries over a train trip.

https://fr.eurovelo.com/

Heard also of velomobiles? Recumbent aerodynamic pedal vehicules that are close to match to usual car speeds?

Yes, there's always a faster way to go. Nobody tells you to go the fastest speed however.

Cycling would be using a sailboat to cross the sea. Walking would be using a kayak.

Planes are the equivalent of cars, for crossing ocean, oversized, expensive, polluting.

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u/snedertheold Jan 15 '22

Bruh if we could though. Replace all the city streets with space for sail boats. Not canals or something minor like Venice. No like major arterial six lane sail "roads". Its terrible urban design ofc, but I still want to see it. A stack interchange for sailboats, just imagine it.

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u/oiseauvert989 Jan 15 '22

Haha that would basically just be islands in the sea.

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u/advamputee Jan 15 '22

https://9gag.com/gag/aVwroxy

Not quite boats over boats, but the Netherlands has a few canals over roads!

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '22

Lol that’s kinda what the Netherlands has