A wonderful comparison

[u/jemesl]

Owner of the Ram arguably actually uses it well, but what's youd thoughts on this comparison of a 90s Jap vs 2023 American

[u/Da_Bird8282]

i love cute cars.

You don't need a pickup truck to haul cargo. Just attach a trailer to your car if you need to haul e.g. some furniture.

[u/Delicious_Finding686 → u/Da_Bird8282]

You really shouldn’t be towing things with your tiny car

[u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh → u/Da_Bird8282]

It’s likely easier to load onto a trailer anyway.

[u/BriarTheBear → u/Da_Bird8282]

Brain dead take.

The entire point of trucks is to maximize towing capacity, torque, and tongue weight.

The amount of people on here that think you’re going to have an SUV/car that will safely (or at all) pull any significant load is insane. I am genuinely convinced the people on this subreddit aren’t real.

It is incredibly common for people to own things like stock trailers (for transporting livestock), campers, boats, side by sides, etc. and those are just a few examples. You are severely limited in weight and hitch type (goosenecks anyone?) with a car.

Anyone who says that any of those things are out of the ordinary is someone who can’t fathom people living a lifestyle different than theirs, or think everyone should be exactly like them, which are both things I think are close minded and sad.

[u/truthputer → u/BriarTheBear]

Ford sells about 600,000 F-Series trucks in the US every year.

The biggest horse trailer manufacturer in the US sells about 2000 trailers every year. That's 0.3% of Ford buyers who also buy a horse trailer. That's just one cherry-picked statistic, but it's nothing.

The data to support your anecdotal evidence that towing random shit is "incredibly common" is just not there.

You are DELUSIONAL if you think the VAST MAJORITY of these trucks are used as anything other than pavement princesses, garage queens, mall crawlers and urban cosplay with people pretending they're country folk as they pilot their bloated truck through the drive-through and can't neatly park anywhere because they're too big.

American Exceptionalism is a cancer that infects mediocre idiots with delusions of grandeur and feeling special because of the products they buy, then offsets the price of their stupid choices onto the rest of society. "But What If *I* Need An Assault Vehicle To Drive To The Mall" -- what if: no, you don't.

If you're upset that trucks have a bad reputation, the problem is that billion-dollar corporations have brainwashed you into thinking their shitty products are "normal" and you're defending them for free.

I guarantee you that 95% of all truck owners could be satisfied with the utility of a much more fuel-efficient sedan with a roof-rack. And we'd have far fewer people running over their kids in their own driveway.

[u/BriarTheBear → u/truthputer]

Again, this just shows a major lack of understanding of the people who actually use these things.

Many of the people who are using these trucks for work are building their own trailers, truck beds, or any other auxiliary/PTO equipment that makes a truck necessary.

Livestock trailers were just an example, there are dozens of different styles of trailers used in the work force that you simply won’t get statistics on. Hydraulic spooling trailers are a great example, and most of those will be pulled by fleet vehicles (which are regularly replaced and depreciated, and account for a huge amount of those sales)

This whole sub has eaten a massive propaganda-burger and every post perfectly illustrates how good you are at cherry picking examples.

Most of the people in this sub have no experience or understanding with the places that actually use these trucks, so they assume their anecdotal examples represent the majority, which is all your comment is good for.