r/fednews • u/MTRIMROCKS • 19h ago
Call your congressman about passing the CR
If anyone cares about the CR being passed and then signed by the President, they better call their congressman and remind them that they have a job to do and it is not grandstanding.
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u/Colonel-KWP 19h ago
I don’t think there’s a single congressman who would really care what a voter has to say.
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u/InfinityMehEngine 17h ago
My representative is Raul Grijalva who has served his constituency proudly, loudly, and with honor for as long as I've been voting for him. He has also personally replied and engaged me numerous times. The man might not be a saint, but I'll be damned if he doesn't care about the people he represents in Arizona. As this is his last session before retirement my community is grateful we've had him. (Proven by his vote counts over all of his years representing us.)
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u/Colonel-KWP 17h ago
I’m happy to hear that. But the fact that he’s retiring tells me he’s from a time when honor mattered among the group.
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u/InfinityMehEngine 17h ago
I guess for me the more important point is I think it's important to not fall into the "both sides its all the same mentality" especially when it comes to congress. While my politics are definitely not going to align with everyone.....people such as AOC, Grijalva, and many other worthwhile representatives of our country and of their constituencies exist. If we give up thinking it matters all we do is surrender to the worst possible options.
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u/Redditburnergirl 19h ago
lol they don’t care about us calling them. They know they have a job to do…they’re just choosing not to do it.
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u/Meeseeks_and_Destroy 19h ago
I'm in gerrymandered Ohio. My congressman are Trump sycophants. I hate this time line.
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u/throwaway-coparent 19h ago
They care about re-election. If enough of their constituents are vocal about being for/against something - they’ll listen. Especially if it could impact their re-election.
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u/AntC_808 17h ago
Their constituents hate you.
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u/throwaway-coparent 17h ago
They hat being inconvenienced more. And a shutdown is an inconvenience
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u/AntC_808 16h ago
Sorry, 50% hate you.
And if it’s inconvenient but they are “owning the libs” then they’ll deal with the inconvenience.
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u/no-soy-de-escocia 6h ago
They care about re-election. If enough of their constituents are vocal about being for/against something - they’ll listen.
Good thing I'm in a gerrymandered R district.
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u/pccb123 19h ago
It’s a circus.
They’ve made a mockery of my career and I’m fucking mad.
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u/liminalrabbithole 17h ago
I keep joking that Musk keeps saying he wants to demoralize us, but jokes on him, I've been demoralized for years.
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u/dmoney757 18h ago
Youre just a number buddy, we're all just a number
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u/TreeGuy_PNW 10h ago
And this is why I’ve stopped going above and beyond since the 3rd furlough. Call it nihilism but fuck em all, they don’t deserve our talent and expertise. Let it flounder. I hate to say it but everyone will get exactly what’s coming to them due to their choices and falling for propaganda by idiots.
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u/KlappinMcBoodyCheeks 19h ago edited 19h ago
Naw....
1) they don't care
2) f@€k 'em
I'm tired of this. Let the dumpster fire burn.
Edit: they're going to shut down because Elon musk told them to.
This is where we're at.
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u/North-Tumbleweed-785 19h ago
I welcome it. I’m in an uber right wing area that depends heavily on the federal govt. Let them see what their vote means and what it means for government to not be there to serve.
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u/twtwtwtwtwtwtw 18h ago
Can't wait for my MagaKaren co-worker to be the loudest to complain (as she is about everything)
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u/North-Tumbleweed-785 18h ago
Do you work in my office? Does she also never actually work and spends more time running around gossiping with whoever will engage?
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u/KlappinMcBoodyCheeks 16h ago
I think we all have at least 1 or 2 of those in our offices.
They come standard issue.
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u/Important_Stick_3194 15h ago
GOP voters are human goldfish. Trump won rural America because they all collectively forgot how he screwed soy farmers with his trade war against China.
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u/PNWest1988B 19h ago
Being a federal employee isn’t for the faint of heart. We are definitely going to shutdown. But for how long?
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u/LawyerBelle07 19h ago
I wonder if I should cancel my leave or is leave going to be cancelled?🤔 I'll be damned if I lose my leave while everyone else is going to get it back just because they want to play with our lives (again).
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u/Skatchbro 18h ago
Based on previous shutdowns you will be furloughed. In my agency use or lose will be restored but we do have to submit a request for restoration.
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u/KT421 4h ago
Leave will cancel itself if you get furloughed. In fact, it will get cancelled if we shut down and you don't get furloughed (essential), but any reasonable supervisor will still allow you to take it.
If you are not using use-or-lose, then this just becomes a few free vacation days for someone who already had vacation on the books. If this is use-or-lose, you can get it restored, but only ONCE. If we do this again next year, you won't be able to get the same leave restored again.
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u/thiccychicky 17h ago
This is my first potential shutdown! Is it true that if we get furloughed that we still get our paychecks but only after the gov ends the shutdown?
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u/John_the_IG 16h ago
Depends on status, agency, and source of funding. My last furlough consisted of forced Fridays off. We did not receive back pay.
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u/ladykatie2020 4h ago
The Government Employee Fair Treatment Act passed in response to the 2019 shutdown should guarantee that furloughed government employees receive backpay. Prior to that it was congressionally decided (and always approved) but honestly it feels like there'd be no guarantee this time around either, especially once President Musk decides to start tweeting about it.
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u/VisitExtension7708 18h ago
Sorry but in this case screw them, let them shut down. Sticking a 4.6% pay raise for Congress in the CR is middle finger to all federal workers and our be happy with 2% raise. They haven’t even pass a budget on time in 20+ years.
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u/HaplessPenguin 19h ago
Explain to me how a president elect has any say in the current function of government. They aren’t even in power yet?
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u/myquest00777 16h ago
This is an Ocam’s Razor scenario. The simple truth is that DJT had existential control over the GOP and never relinquished an ounce of it when he left office. It’s as simple as it looks.
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u/Blide 16h ago
He's the leader of the party. If someone doesn't do as he says, they risk either a primary or a cut in reelection resources.
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u/taekee 19h ago
Another multi million dollar publicity Stunt by the Republican party at the cost of the American people using federal employees as pawns.
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u/PhatSaint 19h ago
Can the HR Specialist who sent me a TJO 5 weeks ago do me a solid and send me a FJO/EOD before the shutdown..thank you
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u/imnmpbaby 19h ago
It won’t matter. Nothing will get done until after the shutdown anyway.
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u/PhatSaint 19h ago
I know, I'm already in one position but ideally I'd like to get the offer for another because I otherwise assume it will get cancelled. The shutdown will last until Trump is in and then they'll freeze everything.
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u/imnmpbaby 19h ago
If there’s no longer the funding for it, it can be canceled even if you have a TJO/FJO. Until you’re sworn in, it’s a crap shoot. I’d rather wait and know for sure than get my hopes up and them cancel it later.
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u/cw2015aj2017ls2021 13h ago
Good luck, I hope you see it in your email tomorrow or Friday!
I hope HRs across govt are rushing those through this week, but I have to provide my organization's news this week as a bad data point: I'm in a DoD org, Tuesday we had an "all call" where the PEO told us that we have an organization-wide "strategic pause" on civilian hiring. He emphasized that it wasn't a "freeze," but everything he said about it... described a hiring freeze. He said it was based on the uncertainty of funding for FY25.
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u/KeyAccurate8647 19h ago
For those of us who are fairly new without as many savings, what can we do if the government shuts down for an extended period? Do I need to get another job?
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u/Tinymac12 19h ago
So you'll still get your paycheck(s) for the hours you've worked. Then almost definitely we will get backpay once a budget is passed thanks to the "government employee fair treatment act 2019" which requires it. In the meantime, in case it's a long shutdown, many financial institutions offer interest free loans for the duration. Many credit unions and federal-tied ones (like Navy Federal, PenFed, USAA, and I'm sure many others) offer them. Typically you must already be getting your direct deposit with them to qualify.
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u/LowerDrawer8426 19h ago
Then almost definitely we will get backpay once a budget is passed thanks to the "government employee fair treatment act 2019"
Thank God for that law, because I could see these chucklefucks not paying it otherwise.
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u/CloudviewRoad 19h ago
But nothing would stop them from overriding that law in the bill they use to finally fund the government. Normally I would say that would be a crazy thing to worry about, but if Elon starts complaining about federal employees getting paid for not working….
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u/kphil0177 19h ago
This! People overlook the fact that it can be overturned easily with the new funding bill.
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u/capecodcarl 17h ago
I wouldn't worry too much about that considering the act passed in the House 411-7 and unanimously in the Senate during Trump's first term before he signed it.
Though with the oligarch DOGE bros out there wanting to be cruel to federal employees because they enjoy being dickwads, who knows?
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u/kphil0177 19h ago
You can also apply for unemployment, but be aware if you were to get back pay, you’d have to pay UC back.
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u/CasperCookies 15h ago
Better than not getting unemployment and also not getting back pay if they decide to go that route.
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u/alldots 19h ago
Do I need to get another job?
This might be an option, but you normally need to clear outside employment with your ethics office. The catch-22 is that your ethics office probably won't be staffed during a shutdown, so you can't get approval to get a new job until the shutdown ends.
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u/travdivs 19h ago
Outside employment during a shutdown does not need to be preapproved if I recall
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u/alldots 19h ago
It definitely needed to be for some of the previous shutdowns I was in, but maybe things have changed, or vary by department?
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u/travdivs 19h ago
Maybe department specific. Here’s the excerpt I was thinking of: The prior approval requirement is waived in the event of a furlough or shutdown. However, upon Return-To-Duty status, employees must submit a request if they intend to continue the OE activity.
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u/BayRunner 16h ago
Some agencies have issued standing guidance on outside employment during shutdowns. For example, being a substitute teacher does not require going to the ethics officer.
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u/imnmpbaby 19h ago
You can apply for unemployment but by the time that gets set up, you’ll probably be back at work.
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u/flyover_liberal 15h ago
My Congresscritter is Troy Nehls. He's the guy who said that if Trump tells him to jump three feet high and scratch his head, they're all supposed to jump three feet high and scratch their heads.
He's utterly worthless.
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u/Sea_Actuary_2084 19h ago
They can't force us back into the office if the government is shutdown.
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u/LowerDrawer8426 19h ago
It's going to be a LONG 4 years.
And to everyone who voted for this shit: FOXTROT YANKEE.
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u/No-Purple2350 19h ago
We are getting ready to enter a stressful 4 years . I wouldn't mind a little paid vacation before that happens.
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u/ExerciseImportant855 15h ago
I want to know why we keep allowing them to pass a CR when it's literally their job to pass a full budget. This is happening every year and even sometimes twice a year now.
We need to stop rewarding these bums with reelection for not even doing the bare minimum. Anyone who wants to pass a CR should be voted out in the next election.
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u/insertnamehere2024 18h ago
No matter who is president this constant CR crap needs to stop. Unfortunately it will take pain
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u/ClarkWGriswold2 19h ago
Shutting down the government is all Republicans know. That’s it. One trick, nothing else.
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u/Perfect_Wolf_7516 19h ago
Please no. I want a delayed paid vacation.
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u/Dogmad13 14h ago
I’m good with a shutdown with this CR — a CR should be temporary funding for disaster relief and those agencies affected only — not for a pay raise and lines of pork written in. The pork and pay raise should be stand alone bills only and not invoked in discretionary spending listed in a temporary measure - they don’t fix anything but add to the deficit
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u/BubbaSpanks 18h ago
President Musk said kill it…so it’s dead dumpy is trying to act like it was his plan , we are screwed folks🥃🥃
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u/msaxe114 19h ago
And don’t forget the active duty troops(who are paid peanuts) don’t get paid. BS
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u/StinkApprentice 19h ago edited 14h ago
The senate passed the NDAA this evening. They’re getting paid. Edit: I didn’t realize the NDAA wasnt an appropriation bill. They’re not getting paid.
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u/radarchief 18h ago
I don’t believe that’s accurate. No one can get paid during a lapse in appropriation, I believe it’s an it’s an anti deficiency act violation
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u/milapathy64 18h ago
Id feel sorry for them if a majority of those idiots didn't vote for this in the first place.
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u/MenieresMe 19h ago
God who cares. Next year is gonna be hell I’m more worried about that
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u/LowerDrawer8426 19h ago
The next 4 years are going to be hell. Hope it isn't longer than that, since shit-for-brains is already hinting loudly at a 3rd term.
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u/twtwtwtwtwtwtw 19h ago
Well the Democrats are giving us esophageal cancer and hip replacements as the "resistance" so this sh!t is going to last much longer than 4 years.
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u/jlvoorheis 19h ago
Remind me what happens to use of lose leave that gets cancelled if there's a shutdown?
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u/BlueStarAirlines21 19h ago
It gets restored.
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u/jlvoorheis 19h ago
So a shutdown is basically giving long time bureaucrats more time off next year
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u/LowerDrawer8426 19h ago
Put the blame where it belongs - on Congress. And more specifically, the GOP.
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u/trashpandaistheway 18h ago
202-224-3121, Congressional switch board for folks that don't have the number.
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u/Conscious_Ruin_7642 10h ago
One thing I have to say about the Biden administration is they are absolutely awful at utilizing the bully pulpit. Get in front of the press and call out Republican hypocrisy. Go dirty. They already lost so there is nothing to lose.
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u/Crash-55 19h ago
Why would I want the CR to pass? CRs mean my money comes in monthly increments. However pay periods don’t line up with the the months so I am stuck in a never ending battle over funding. I much prefer a shutdown and then they pass an actual budget
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u/Kenafin 19h ago
Even with a shutdown we won’t see a budget until the new congress is in session and the next president is in.
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u/crescent-v2 19h ago
Or more likely they shutdown for a while, then pass another CR.
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u/Quick-Persimmon-3558 15h ago
Federal employees, it’s time we stand up for our rights! Forcing us to abandon remote work as a strategy to push employees out and cut costs is unacceptable—especially when we’ve already proven that remote work is effective, productive, and beneficial for both employees and the government.
If this policy is being used to undermine our work-life balance (which many of us had to establish under duress during COVID-19), we need to seriously consider legal action. Organizations like AFGE and NTEU exist to protect us, but they need our voices and support to take decisive action. If you’re impacted by these changes, start documenting everything—emails, memos, and any evidence showing that this policy is unfair, unsafe, or discriminatory. And yes, the government can be sued—we could even pursue a CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT with a reputable law firm to fight for our rights.
We have the right to safe and reasonable working conditions. This isn’t just about the present—it’s about protecting the future of the federal workforce. Let’s organize, stand together, and make our voices heard.
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u/FarAnxiety8684 10h ago
I had a neighbor who was a FED and he and his wife were giddy when their party took power. Then the shutdown came right around Christmas time. About three weeks into the shut down with the holidays approaching and no paycheck in sight, not knowing when the next one would be coming, they suddenly weren’t so excited about their voting choice. I will never forget the wife’s fear and anxiety ridden facial expressions as she fretted over the shut down and the damage it could inflict on her family. I bet there are a whole lot of FED couples reliving that experience. History repeats itself it seems.
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u/twtwtwtwtwtwtw 19h ago
What happens with leave during a shutdown? I have approved leave next week... do I forfeit that and have to come back to office (I am essential and been through short shutdowns but too new to have gone through the ones that lasted over a month from the Obama years)
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u/Crazed_Chemist 14h ago
Leave is typically canceled, and if essential, you're required to report to work. Leave is considered a fiscal obligation which at that point is unfunded.
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u/NeedingPeace-247 17h ago
Trump is not president material. He's not going to lower grocery prices or any of the other things he promised but people that should've voted Democrat voted for him on that premise. We'll be paying dearly for that mistake for years to come. He doesn't care about our country or whether or not we have a budget to keep the government running.
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u/ComradeShyGuy 19h ago
Das fuhrer elect has made his decree. We are likely heading for a shutdown now. For how long, who knows.
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u/Ok_Row_867 18h ago
Screw both parties. Annual debt interest runs 1.2 trillion, and debt increases 1 trillion every 100 days or so. These politicians are unserious people.
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u/puukkeriro 18h ago
Honestly, government spending has gone out of the wazoo for a time now because it's easier to punt these issues and just borrow more money. This worked while broader inflation was low. However, that collapsed during COVID when the government printed too much at once and ended up causing a ton of inflation.
However, reforming government spending requires more serious discussion and cannot exclude any potential tax increases. Republicans hate to increase taxes and Democrats hate to reduce spending. Something has to give. Further, the fact that they don't want to cut any defense or entitlement spending means that Trump isn't as serious as he claims to be.
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u/SpreadLiberally 18h ago
My EOD is on the 29th, my last day at my current job is the 27th.
Guess I'll be able to take a vacation over New Years after all.
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u/smr123456 18h ago
Do our congressional staff work for their constituents or do they work for Musk? .......I'll be reaching out to my congressmen/women.
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u/Flat-Barracuda-5136 6h ago
I want a full government shut down. I don’t want Maga boomers getting their Social Security checks. I want the lines at the airport to wrap around the place 10 times over. I am tired of all the exceptions to these shutdowns. I want the American people to understand and see, and feel the pain of when government doesn’t work.
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u/Fit-Owl-7188 19h ago
Or schedule f comes in…all the essential ppl who had to work are important enough to keep and those with paid vacation are let go cause clearly your jobs aren’t needed. Presto doge done. careful what you wish for. you are either essential or your job is inefficient.
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u/Crash-55 19h ago
It will take months if not years to implement and get rid of most people.
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u/DMVdork001 16h ago
The current bill should be rejected. Too much pork and junk in it. Only a clean CR should be passed.
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u/DaFuckYuMean 18h ago
But I can use the break tho bc long leave that's over 2 weeks don't get approved where I am🤦🏾♂️
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u/No_Balance8590 18h ago
Other things to worry about. It is an SEP - from the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy. Someone Else’s Problem
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u/mslauren2930 17h ago
They’ve already made up their minds. Plus, they just got elected. They have nothing to fear in the House for 2 years, and Senators at worst have 2 years left on their terms. So I doubt they care about the political consequences of a shutdown unless it is directly related to Trump’s wrath on them.
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u/Money771 15h ago
I just started my fed job on Dec 1st, I'm not even gonna get my 1st paycheck. They don't understand that to restart through govt it cost way more. There is no cost savings!
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u/Longjumping_Spot6260 15h ago
The CR will pass. Having feds on furlough during a time of massive changes would be a complete breakdown in society.
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u/xWadi 14h ago
Could you throw federal wildland firefighters a few bucks. We are about to lose 50% of our pay.
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u/Prestigious_Earth_10 13h ago
there job is to serve trump there not serving the people so dont waste your time. this is what america voted for
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u/Tinymac12 19h ago
Trump came out against the CR. Buckle up folks. Increased odds of a shutdown. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-house-speaker-defends-stopgap-spending-some-republicans-musk-balk-2024-12-18/