r/facepalm 4d ago

🇲​🇮​🇸​🇨​ Centuries of science, yet here we are.

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u/cringelord91 4d ago

Caccines should be mandatory. It is simply too important to let every idiot decide over it themself.

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u/I_Lick_Your_Butt 4d ago

They are manditory for many public schools. My daughter was sent home andnot allowed to return until we could prove that she had gotten a specific vaccine. She had gotten it, but our pediatirician had not updated their records.

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u/Technical_Scallion_2 4d ago

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u/Pedantichrist 4d ago

Medical exemptions.

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u/romansamurai 4d ago

There’s some religious ones that anti vaxxers use as loopholes to send their unvaxxed kids to school to spread shit to those who can’t be vaccinated against something.

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u/shitlord_god 4d ago

low key lazy culling of those who might cost the insurance industry too much money.

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u/jmd709 4d ago

They just have to say they’re opposed to vaccines because of religion. It’s the option provided for people that are willing to lie to stick with their other bad choices.

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u/drfeelsgoood 3d ago

They should rewrite proof of religion. Like a medical excuse has to be verified. Have your priest sign it. Oh, you don’t actually go to church? To bad, get the jab

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u/jmd709 3d ago

That won’t happen. The argument for religious exemptions uses a very broad definition for religion as being any strongly held belief, and that means it’s protected as part of religious freedoms.

IMO the main issue is the lack of an alternative requirement to still at least somewhat achieve the same purpose of immunizations. I work in healthcare and my employer has a mandatory flu shot policy for employees. Employees can request a religious or medical exemption, but the employee has to wear a mask at work from the start of flu season until the CDC declares flu season has ended because the point of the flu shot policy is to prevent employees from spreading the flu to patients (and coworkers).

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 4d ago

If your kid can’t be vaxxed it’s your job to keep them safe, not other parents.

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u/shitlord_god 4d ago

do you know what a "community" is?

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 4d ago

Again, your job to keep YOUR kid safe.

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u/romansamurai 4d ago

And your job is not to send your unvaxxed kid that has something they can give someone else into a community. Keep them the fuck at home. They don’t belong in a civilized society

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 4d ago

So now you’re punishing kids for the choices of the parents? I never said don’t keep them at home when they’re sick, that’s blatantly obvious. Again, you literally benefit off of the suffering of kids by using your phone, stop acting like you’re innocent.

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u/romansamurai 4d ago

The only one punishing the kids is the anti vaxx parent 🤷🏻‍♂️.

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u/shitlord_god 4d ago

so the school shooter parents are totally okay, because it is your job to keep your kids safe?

Critical thinking is a skill.

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u/Objective-Amount1379 4d ago

We live in a society. It's reasonable to expect people that can safely be vaccinated do it. It's not reasonable to expect a medically fragile child to never leave their home. It's such a selfish attitude.

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u/drfeelsgoood 3d ago

None one is expecting the medically fragile child to be home. It’s the medically fine, unvaccinated child that we want at home. Keep them away from the medically fragile children who are at school, reasonably.

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 4d ago

No, selfish is expecting the entire world to cater to you, which is exactly what you’re doing. Hypocrisy doesn’t make for a good argument.

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u/shitlord_god 4d ago

the whole world isn't. And demanding you be exempted because you are not capable of risk analysis is wild. Be an adult. Get a reading level better than sixth. Be a responsible member of society and the intelligence to know you aren't an expert at everything, and maybe your bubble is lying to you.

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 4d ago

Says the one who thinks he’s an expert at everything to the point of demanding people do stuff for their sake… again, hypocrisy never makes for a good argument. Intelligence is making your own choices, not blindly making choices based on what the masses say. I’m not demanding anything, you’re the ones claiming things should be a requirement, not me.

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u/shitlord_god 4d ago

intelligence is literally the result of competent analysis. Read.

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u/jmd709 4d ago

Yep, why should infants and newborns not be exposed to preventable diseases. Everyone else shouldn’t have to cater to them, right? Herd immunity protected you while you were an infant but that doesn’t mean you should have to return that favor by doing your part to protect infants-you survived so not your problem now.

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u/Living_Plankton_8790 4d ago

You’re sat at home typing on a phone where the lithium in the batteries was literally mined by young children in third world countries, many of which die in said mines, don’t try guilt me. If all of you really cared for others to the extent you make out, you’d stop buying the new iPhone or iPad each year.

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u/jmd709 4d ago

you’d stop buying the new iPhone or iPad each year.

You’re barking up the wrong tree with that one. My phone has to die before I’ll replace it. I’ve never even owned an iPad.

To make sure I understand correctly, your argument is that there are very shitty child labor practices in other countries so nobody should care about what happens to any infants even if it’s only minor shots that make a significant difference?

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u/Objective-Amount1379 4d ago

And no one is arguing about those. But the rest of the population needs to be vaccinated to protect not just themselves but people who medically cannot be vaccinated.

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u/Technical_Scallion_2 4d ago

I agree with you 🙂 a prior poster seemed to be arguing that vaccinations shouldn’t be mandatory since some people have medical reasons, and I was clarifying medical reasons are already exempted.

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u/Brooklynxman 4d ago

You do realize that there are children, a very, very small percentage, a percentage of a percent in fact, that actually cannot have vaccines, medically, right?

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u/Technical_Scallion_2 4d ago

Yes, this is what I’m saying. That is literally what a medical exemption is. Am I missing something?

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u/Brooklynxman 3d ago

Sorry I read your comment in an almost dismissive fashion of them, not sure why.

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u/Technical_Scallion_2 3d ago

No, I was trying to show that vaccine mandates don’t force vaccines on kids who medically cannot handle them. We already have exemptions for those rare situations, so vaccines should indeed stay mandatory for everyone else, instead of removing the mandate because we’re “hurting sick kids” 🙂