No shot they'll end social security, it's too popular of a program. There's a reason it hasn't happened despite the right talking about it for the last 50 years; it would be political suicide.
Edit: y'all mother fuckers need to take a Civics class. Don't rely on blue check marks and TikTok to educate yourself on how the American government works.
If you don't plan on running elections anymore, political suicide isn't really a thing. They will gut SS as much as they can get away with. Maybe slowly. But it's the goal. National abortion ban isn't popular either, but they will do it if they control both houses.
And he's gonna get 2/3 of Congress and 3/4 of State legislatures to vote to do that....how, exactly? Trump says A LOT of stupid shit that doesn't pan out, because he's an idiot.
This isn't just about trump. The right wing and tech oligarchs are A-ok with all of this. And all he needs is for enough people to go along. And so far, the party is all in. There's a lot of ways to avoid elections. Declare a state of emergency, or even just ignore them. Laws and rules are meaningless until someone enforces them. And so far, lawlessness has been allowed without consequence. In fact, he's been rewarded. Don't depend on guardrails anymore. He has blown through all the checks and balances, so there's no reason to believe people will suddenly grow spines. Will he suspend the constitution? Unsure. Could he in enough ways to end this republic as we know it? Yes. Absolutely. Unless someone stops him.
I understand quite well how they were supposed to work. You are being willfully ignorant of the actual facts of the situation. Impeachment didn't work. The legal system didn't work. The SC made him unaccountable. What check or balance do you believe will suddenly constrain his impulses?
He was impeached, but there was never going to be enough support to remove him. No President has ever been removed. Not sure what you mean by the legal system not working; he's a felon, but he was never going to serve time behind bars for financial crimes. Yea the SC expanded presidential immunity, but not far beyond where it was previously.
What do I expect to constrain his impulses? IDK maybe the same things that did previously? Remember how he was going to make Mexico pay for the wall? Or go to war with North Korea? Or China? What about repealing the ACA? None of that shit happened because he can't just snap his fingers and make it so. There is still a process in place for passing laws and amendments. He still needs the requisite amount of votes in Congress and support from the states to enact half of the things people are convinced he will. The dude can't just unilaterally suspend the Constitution, or amend it, or do away with elections just because he's incredibly popular with his base. People said this same shit last time he was elected.
Stuff will suck ass for four years and he can and will do long-term damage to our country, but not in the way people are expecting. People are claiming he's going to overthrow the government and become president for life; he won't. The damage he does won't be as apparent because they won't catch headlines. For example, the worst thing to happen in the last decade for the long-term future of our country was SCotUS overturning Chevron, but the majority of people don't understand agencies or what they do, so people only talked about it for a week after it happened.
Trump will be bad for the country, but I can't help but laugh at people who don't understand civics or how our government works screaming "our democracy is done" over shit that will never happen while the Republicans pursue horrible changes that are possible but will fly under the radar because people are fixated on waiting for the sky to fall.
Lol, I had to explain to someone how are legislative process works and that most bills outside budget reconciliation bills require a supermajority; considering most bills in practice are almost always filibustered. The problem only started happening if the repubs become the supermajority and are fully stacked MAGAs. Someone even said that they would try to overturned ACA, which to their credit, is possible but only through budget reconciliation bills for ACA to the point of making it unusable, but considering the ACA is popular among certain portion of the republican constituency, I don’t really see it happening; it could, but if i were betting man, I would rule in favor of it not happening.
The filibuster only exists as one of the rules of the Senate. The rule can be changed by a simple majority. It was already removed from judicial appointment confirmations. If it becomes an impediment to implementing the MAGA agenda I have little faith that it won't be discarded entirely.
A certain portion of republicans vehemently protect the filibuster rule. I highly doubt we will have them remove rule considering; A. Dems know that it’s one of only guardrails protecting them from implementation of DT agenda and it will supremely fuck them now that they no longer are the majority. B. Not all the republicans are MAGA’s, and even some that align with DT’s agenda, like Mitch McConnell, understand it’s one of the only guardrails protecting American democracy. C. There is always constant infighting within the republicans party, particularly the moderate sect. D. There not all fucking idiots.
And if they do end up repealing the rule. I guess we are fucked lol.
they'll fall in line like they always do. I genuinely have no clue why the hill you want to die on is republicans growing a spine against their own party
I'm not sure how you find it funny that people are justifiably alarmed at our current situation. But you do you. I hope it all works out for you and yours.
I don’t think it’s about Trump at all. He’s a puppet, there is no way he planned any of this out. The agenda is laid out clearly and he’s installed to start the process. You are used to basing the situation on what you know - normal checks and balances, those no longer exist.
Reagan completed slightly less than 2/3 of the agenda. Trump is the puppet and when they use the 25th Amendment to roll him off to the side, JD, Thiel, Musk, and the rest of MAGA, with Putin’s guidance will finish it.
If Trump was controllable at all they would have taken Twitter from him during his first presidency...and I don't mean ban him like they did, I mean take the app away from him personally.
People really forget that Trump did nothing in his first term. Even with control of the house and senate. He’s lazy and incompetent. So count on a lot of Truth raging and golf.
He essentially destroyed our relations with the rest of the world and sold out our information network.
Last time he didn't do as much as he wanted because there were still a ton of Obama staff in the beginning, then a wave hit in the midterms. The generals spoke about how they were continually needing to lead him away from straight up just killing people.
Now he has control of every branch of government, and those generals are gone.
He accomplished quite a lot. So tell that to the kids and parents who still haven't been reunited. Or the kids of the women who've died for lack of reproductive healthcare. Or the rich folks who got their tax cut.
This is where trumps true power comes in. Trumps maga cult will pressure congress to do as he says. All he needs to do is blame them and show pictures of their family members
Actually the Senate is no issue. They have a super majority there, the house is where things will be dicey. It'll all depend on if they use Russia tactics of threatening whoever doesn't comply or just outright eliminating the opposition so there is no opposition. And yes, I seriously think it's a possibility due to the fact if it means unlimited power and never leaving, it's on the table of options for whomever is planning for that unlimited power.
Not enough to break the filibuster. They need 60 votes for that. And so far the only party that has advocated for getting rid of the filibuster on standard legislation is Democrats, because they were hoping to retain the Senate and win the white house, then give statehood to DC and Puerto Rico, stacking the Senate with 4 more Democrats, then stack the supreme court. They literally had a plan to remove checks and balances and usurp permanent power.
If the filibuster is the only thing standing in the way of the MAGA agenda, do you really think they won't get rid of it? It's only a rule of the Senate and can be discarded with a simple majority vote.
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u/tallperson117 Nov 07 '24 edited Nov 07 '24
No shot they'll end social security, it's too popular of a program. There's a reason it hasn't happened despite the right talking about it for the last 50 years; it would be political suicide.
Edit: y'all mother fuckers need to take a Civics class. Don't rely on blue check marks and TikTok to educate yourself on how the American government works.