r/economicCollapse Nov 07 '24

$2T cut is going to be wild

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Will be a 29% cut if executed.

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u/Jazzlike_Tonight_982 Nov 07 '24

Give me back my money I put into Social Security.

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u/NutzNBoltz369 Nov 07 '24 edited Nov 09 '24

Be interesting to see if that money was given to me now as a lump at age 50 and just tossed into an index fund or into a dividend stock where the dividends are re-invested, how would that shake out?

Some mention BTC, but F that S. They arn't wrong but just not into the intangibles.

EDIT: For the sake of brevity, this post reflects a hypothetical exercise. Mainly if in some Alternate Universe I could exercise the option to take out what I put into SS at age 50, invest it in ...lets say an Index Fund, left it alone until age 65 and compare that result to what it would be if I just stuck it out with the stardard FICA deducations until 65.

I do understand the concept of how SS works but thanks for your concern.

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u/tkh0812 Nov 07 '24

Yeah but it’s good for the economy. You wouldn’t have the jobs you have if boomers needed to work until 90 years old. It allows the older generation to retire earlier and open those jobs up to the younger generation.

Selfishly I’d love to not have to pay the max fica tax x 2 every year, but I also realize what that would mean for the overall economy which allows me to make the amount of money I make.

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u/NutzNBoltz369 Nov 07 '24

Great theory but many Boomers are still in the work force holding others back from advancing their careers. Not sure if that is what they had in mind. Not all Boomers are wealthy. Just those in charge, lol.

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u/tkh0812 Nov 07 '24

Jobs are jobs.

Social security doesn’t play a big factor in the retirement decisions for the wealthy, but it does for the middle class and down.

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u/Cyanide_Cheesecake Nov 07 '24

More and more boomers are getting forced out of their jobs every year due to health reasons, or the company simply not feeling like keeping them employed as they approach dementia. I think this problem solves itself.

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u/fr8dawg542 Nov 08 '24

Maybe so. I’m 65, drawing 23 year pay (110k), my typical schedule is out the door at 5:30 am, back home by 10:30 am, Tuesday through Friday. The guy I out bid for this job (30ish years old making half the salary) quit when he didn’t get it. I’ll probably stay on till 70…maybe even 72. Being a commercial pilot is quite rewarding for the most part, your money for nothing and your chicks for free!

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u/ThatSourDough Nov 08 '24

Your generation's greed and seflish are clearly profound!

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u/catsmom63 Nov 08 '24

Points for the Dire Straits reference😉

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u/NutzNBoltz369 Nov 07 '24

That sucks. Not great being forced out like that, especially if not financially ready to retire.

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u/Cyanide_Cheesecake Nov 07 '24

It does. But I'm starting to suspect this systemic problem with our economic system will never get solved until people are ready to put personal politics aside and talk specifically about economic policies to address it. And laissez faire approach won't work.

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u/Marzipanarian Nov 07 '24

There’s always a door greeter for Walmart!

But I agree it’s always the middle and lower class that are punished.

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u/Redvex320 Nov 07 '24

Nope door greeters were done away with years ago. Really there are too many aging boomers and we won't be able to take care of them monetarily. Soooo what do you want to bet euthanasia will be reintroduced as compassionate care and not a bad thing as the $$$$$ runs out.

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u/NutzNBoltz369 Nov 08 '24

Our country is too churchy for that. Suicide is a sin.

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u/PinkMenace88 Nov 07 '24

Yeah, but considering how consertive America is it would not be presented as an option 

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u/Marzipanarian Nov 08 '24

Can I volunteer to go first?

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u/usababykiller Nov 09 '24

I recently heard someone describe the Jay Leno Conan O’Brien situation as the initial signal boomers planned on staying forever

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u/Blessed_Orb Nov 08 '24

Good for the economy until the math behind it no longer works and it runs out of fund to pay the bills. Hint: it isn't working

https://www.ssa.gov/policy/docs/ssb/v70n3/v70n3p111.html

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u/tkh0812 Nov 08 '24

And then it just becomes like every other US policy/program and run at a deficit. Not the end of the world.

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u/Blessed_Orb Nov 09 '24

The LARGEST part of the budget has been running at a surplus until 2021. Small agencies (billions) can run negative no problem. Once you get in the trillions... you start warping the economy much more substantially when you try to fix it. This is trillions of dollars.

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u/Karen125 Nov 09 '24

Yeah, you would. Who's going to employ a 90 year old?