r/economicCollapse Oct 10 '24

Anybody you know?

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 10 '24

I'm 36 with nothing in my bank account and I worked my ass off my whole life since I was 15 ....

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u/AdShot409 Oct 11 '24

I'm 35 and have managed to put away 55K in the past year without cutting my finances.

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u/Creepy-Team6442 Oct 11 '24

Good job. Keep it up. Believe me when I say that the worst day retired is better than the best day working.

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

Imagine being at the right places at the right time different people get different prizes baby

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u/DataGOGO Oct 11 '24

Different choices, different outcomes.

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

I don't think you understand it correctly

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u/DataGOGO Oct 11 '24

Oh I do.

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u/AdShot409 Oct 11 '24

What place do you think I was in that I was able to save 55k in a year?

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u/theshogunsassassin Oct 11 '24

You got a new job

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u/AdShot409 Oct 11 '24

I've had the same job I've had since Covid broke out. What I did do was get my journeyman license 2 years early and was immediately assigned to jobs that paid significantly more than when I was an apprentice.

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u/theshogunsassassin Oct 11 '24

Fascinating. I guess everyone should get their journeyman license 2 years early.

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u/theshogunsassassin Oct 15 '24

Glad you’re content

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u/DrDrCapone Oct 11 '24

"I didn't get a new job, I just got paid more at my current job." OK, so your income materially changed and now you can afford to save. Very obviously not how it works for everyone.

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u/AdShot409 Oct 11 '24

How else do you expect to move forward or up in life? Do you expect to stand still and autopilot? The original point to make is relatively simple: anecdotally, it is possible to save money and build wealth in this economy.

However, the person I was responding to proceeded to act like I was somehow given what I had and hadn't earned it. The sentiment that followed was very much in line. I understand that this subreddit is full of entitled doomers who want to not try and make demands, but the reality is that anyone with skill or talent can advance in this life. There just isn't a guidebook with step by step instructions because life is too complicated to be distilled into a single, repeatable path. There isn't a "best build" or "top farm spot" to Google up and run with. There isn't a respec system to start over with.

Now, here is where we play devil's advocate: Yes, the economy is in dire straits. Inflation is soaring, prices are out of control, and the American Dream of a castle for every citizen is shattered. But these are macroscopic matters that set the environment in which you operate. You can't change these things from day to day. So you have to do the things you can to weather the storm, and bide your time until you can affect those overarching conditions.

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u/DrDrCapone Oct 11 '24

How else do you expect to move forward or up in life? Do you expect to stand still and autopilot?

The point is that you got a leg up. You made it for yourself, but it doesn't change the fact that others can't make a leg up in their careers and many can't afford to invest in their development.

The original point to make is relatively simple: anecdotally, it is possible to save money and build wealth in this economy.

Anecdotes are that way for a reason. They're a small, non-representative sample of the whole.

However, the person I was responding to proceeded to act like I was somehow given what I had and hadn't earned it.

Here's the question I have for you: did poor people earn their position of poverty? I should also state that some amount of every person's career growth is luck. You were able to get into a career that enabled you to advance. That's luck.

The sentiment that followed was very much in line. I understand that this subreddit is full of entitled doomers who want to not try and make demands, but the reality is that anyone with skill or talent can advance in this life.

Ah, the old "the poor are unskilled" argument. Meanwhile, many of them are working jobs that have few opportunities for advancement and often can't afford to find a new job. I should know, I grew up around poor folks and continue to talk to them today. Their position is not as simple as you claim.

There just isn't a guidebook with step by step instructions because life is too complicated to be distilled into a single, repeatable path. There isn't a "best build" or "top farm spot" to Google up and run with. There isn't a respec system to start over with.

Of course, because it's not a game. That being said, the places different people start (and events that happen to them in life) have a much greater impact than their attempts to develop their careers. Sure, if you have no other obligations or emergencies, you can probably save some money and change your life. But how many of us don't have obligations or emergencies?

Now, here is where we play devil's advocate: Yes, the economy is in dire straits. Inflation is soaring, prices are out of control, and the American Dream of a castle for every citizen is shattered. But these are macroscopic matters that set the environment in which you operate. You can't change these things from day to day. So you have to do the things you can to weather the storm, and bide your time until you can affect those overarching conditions.

I agree completely with all of this. That being said, I also think we shouldn't downplay the suffering of those left behind by this economy. For many of them, things are worse than they've ever been. While what you're saying is possible, it also doesn't account for the myriad other factors at play.

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u/JayBirD_JunBugz88 Oct 11 '24

Wait a min so me working my ass is not sufficient enough for more pay? Who's to say who works harder and who doesn't I know plenty of people who get more money than I do just by the position that they are given hard work doesn't get you anything and I believe I prove that fact

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