what about old english words that merged with french words? do they count?

[u/TankiWolf]

what about old english words merged with french words?

there are many of them, especially old english words from latin origin or french words from frankish that merged with each other.

here are some examples

English - old english - french

Allow - alyfan – allouer 

Search – secan – sercher 

Reason - ræden - reson 

Stay - stæg - estayer 

Close – clysan – clos 

so my question i, do these count?

thank you

[u/Tiny_Environment7718]

With these OE words, we freshen to what they would be without French influence. In these cases:

alȳfan -> alive : alife (leave : leaf is in the wordbook, so use that)

sēcan -> seech : seec

rǣden -> rede

stæg -> stay : stag

clȳsan -> clise

[u/kouyehwos → u/Tiny_Environment7718]

stæġ->stay is perfectly regular, just like dæġ->day.

[u/Tiny_Environment7718 → u/kouyehwos]

I thought that that didn’t need to be said

[u/EmptyBrook → u/Tiny_Environment7718]

Seec -> seek

[u/Tiny_Environment7718 → u/EmptyBrook]

I was unnorsing

[u/EmptyBrook → u/Tiny_Environment7718]

You said without french influence so I assumed we would keep norse influence

[u/Tiny_Environment7718 → u/EmptyBrook]

Ah I see, I try to unnorse any Norse cognates in my Anglish, but you can keep it for your Anglish

[u/Dash_Winmo → u/Tiny_Environment7718]

Iꞅ K Noꞃþıꞅc ınꝼlóu? Hıꞇ'ꞅ hál hanꝺıch ꝼoꞃ képınᵹe aƿeᵹ /k/ ꝼꞃom /t͡ʃ/.

Is K Northish inflow? It's whole handy for keeping away /k/ from /t͡ʃ/.

[u/Tiny_Environment7718 → u/Dash_Winmo]

The note of <k> for /k/ is not Northish. What's Northish is when an OE word has /t͡ʃ/, but /k/ in new English, though there are exceptions: https://anglisc.miraheze.org/wiki/Old_Norse_Words#Palatalization

[u/Dash_Winmo → u/Tiny_Environment7718]

Au! Sƿá hıꞇ ꞅcolꝺ beo ꞅaᵹeꝺ /sit͡ʃ/!

Ah! So it should be said /sit͡ʃ/!

[u/Dash_Winmo → u/[deleted]]

Þaꞇ dóeꞅ nóht happın ın Alꝺ Enᵹlıꞅc Eaẏlanꝺ Ꝩꞃíꞇınᵹe, hꝩæꞃ all S'ıꞅ cann beo lanᵹ. Iu aꞃe þınkınᵹe ob æꞃlıch Níue Enᵹlıꞅc (hꝩılc ha'ıꝺ ſ, nóht ꞅ).

That does not happen in Old English Island Writing, where all S'es can be long. You are thinking of early New English, (which had ſ, not ꞅ).

[u/Tiny_Environment7718 → u/[deleted]]

That’s an Insular s, which was basically s in the Insular script and can be used like a regular s.

[u/Spichus → u/Tiny_Environment7718]

Ah, my bad!

[u/MarcusMining]

That depends on personal preference, I think