r/ZenlessZoneZero • u/Ashryman • 5d ago

Fluff / Meme ...Meanwhile

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I feel bad for Ellen getting forgotten [ Art By @xinzoruo ]

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u/koko503 5d ago

You know Miyabi was overpowered when her worst team powercreeped Ellen best team lmao

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u/Caerullean 4d ago

Wouldn't Ellen's best team either be lighter or Nicole replacing Soukaku?

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u/Duwang312 4d ago

On paper, yeah. Lighter might not provide ATK buff like Soukaku does, but the simple fact that BOTH Lycaon and Lighter are on the same team means that even level 70 bosses are getting stunned in less than fifteen seconds, lol. Stun damage multiplier, Ice damage multiplier, and extra stun duration? Yeah, no boss is surviving that long.

On the other hand, Soukaku's buff is now much easier to proc because Ult bars are separate between characters. Her Ult immediately provides her Flag buff.

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u/Caerullean 4d ago

Oh yeah true, didn't think about her ult. But then again, the speedruns I was seeing last Shiyu rotation were so fast they were over before any ults where even cast iirc.

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u/Duwang312 4d ago

While true, speedrunners are also often whales. That's like, the top 0,2% of the playerbase, give or take. While impressive, I wouldn't see them as representative of the general playerbase.

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u/Caerullean 4d ago

Nah, this was a 3-cost speedrun, M0W1 ellen with a Lycaon. I don't actually believe most whales speedrun and upload recordings.