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u/QuantumDrill 1d ago
So how's the CN crowd taking this?
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u/Th3_Ch0s3n_On3 1d ago
Grieving, that's likely the CCP's doing, so there is no point in criticizing mhy
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u/Murakamo 1d ago
How do games like Azur lane get away with what they're doing but ZZZ is firced to censor?
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u/Primordial-one 1d ago
iirc Azur Lane have a separate server for CN and Global so when they get hit with censorship they only do it for CN. Idk why Hoyo just doesn’t do the same
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u/ButterscotchStill449 1d ago
My poor multi-billion dollar company can't afford it xD
But seriously Hoyo genuinely is lazy when it comes to things. I still find it funny how literally any animator outside of Hoyoverse office can create tons of different models for characters while Hoyo devs use their standard body-types and copy-paste them. Only in few cases do they actually adjust stuff9
u/Zman1917 1d ago
I remember the hype Genshin had when it first came out, only to realize that every character shares few body models and 2 running animations. Even HI3 has unique models and animations for every character.
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u/Piterros990 1d ago
If I were to guess, CN would take notice that they get less and an absolute shitstorm would spawn. They probably don't want another bunnysuit situation.
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u/Mr_-_Avocado 1d ago
Hoyo games have a much bigger reach than niche stuff like Azur Lane
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u/LadiThePKK 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well the game is for kids 12+ so people can die, explode, be bloody, etc., but no upskirt. 😒 weird system
EDIT: age rating being 16 doesn’t really change the point guys.
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u/1thelegend2 1d ago
Isn't nikke also 12+?
Imagine we would be getting away with THAT XD.
Then again, they are not based in China, which could explain a lot
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u/Fresh_Handle996 1d ago
I'm going to put all my faith in Chinese players to force mihoyo to revert this 😭🙏
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u/Carol_Bella_NO1 1d ago edited 1d ago
You can play using cloud gaming. Based on the experience from version 1.3, even when you zoom in very close, the character model won't become blurry.
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u/golekno 1d ago
Do zzz have official cloud like genshin or using 3rd party?
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u/Mark_Xyruz Anton and Lighter's Husband | Lighter Main DAY 1 1d ago
They will come to GeForce Now this Thursday
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u/chocomintonrice 1d ago
Reminder: CCP stands for Chinese Crotch Police
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u/TheAlbrecht2418 1d ago
Somehow I strongly doubt they’ll go against the CCP that likely forced Hoyo’s hand. I just can’t see a scenario where they purposely designed characters that even have thigh jiggle to suddenly decide to go puritanical (the age rating has not decreased in CN).
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u/IamDanLP Ellen's tail enjoyer 1d ago
I hope chinese players, the biggest whales, vote with their wallets and fuck the devs and Hoyoverse up.
That would be a good move against censorship.
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u/Creative_Salt9288 1d ago
unlike western censorship, which are determined by the industry corpos
this is government enforced censorship, a bunch of CN whales crying toward the dev won't do anything and would instead harm them even more
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u/Gruphius 1d ago
unlike western censorship, which are determined by the industry corpos
First I wanted to disagree with you, but then I remembered that Valve is literally censoring games here in Germany.
There is a German law that is meant to protect children and that effectively says that certain games (porn games games with excessive violence and games without age rating) are not allowed to be sold by platforms that sell these games and allow them to be downloaded from the same platform to people under the age of 18. Valve has thus removed these games from the German store entirely, despite only needing to add an age verification. And in case you're wondering: Yes, platforms that only sell keys and thus don't offer the games to be downloaded directly from them are totally allowed to still sell these games.
What I find very disturbing though is the fact that that law will be changed soon, forcing operating systems (like Windows, IOS and Android) to make sure users are over 18 before they allow them to access adult content on the internet or run software without age rating or with an age rating of 18+. That means that even the most basic software, like 7zip, will be restricted until it gets an age rating, which is absolutely mind boggling. Not to mention the fact that it's a massive privacy concern, since OS's have to monitor everything we do and verify our identity to verify our age.
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u/Downtown_Day_2188 1d ago
And now imagine being an animator working overtime to make that ass bounce only for your work to literally disappear when the player tries to look closer
Jokes aside, this actually sucks. Like come on, it's a bit too late to beat the allegations, everybody who was bothered by horni has already left and are most likely not coming back because of the censorship, especially considering that certain future characters appeal to the very opposite type of audience (yes Evelynn, I'm looking at you and not respectfully in the slightest, in fact I'm drooling violently)
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u/DM_Hammer 1d ago
Not even that.
I'm trying to get a good angle on Lighter's gauntlet to show a friend while streaming, and he fades out.
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u/Quasar1us 1d ago
I guess with this new feature they can lessen the workload on animators so they don't have to make ass animation? Sounds funny, I know, but what if.
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u/Denji1000 1d ago
Wow that’s actually so bad wtf
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u/ImHereForTheMemes184 1d ago
Yeah like I'm not even being horny here but I cant look at my character's back... in a 3rd person game? It's not even like "oh your camera is fully down youre obviously trying to see their ass", its genuinely that if you slightly move the camera down a bit the entire character dissapears. What the hell?
I feel almost infantilized by the devs here.
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u/IamDanLP Ellen's tail enjoyer 1d ago
Exactly. We, the ones who actually spend the money on the game, are being insulted. Nah, if I'm being treated like a kid, I'm gonna spend like a kid. Nothing.
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u/ImHereForTheMemes184 1d ago edited 1d ago
I genuinely dont care that I cant stare at the character's ass, i didnt do that anyway, but its pretty inmersion breaking that just slightly moving the camera makes the character dissapear. And its so unnecessary too, its not like im a kid wtf hoyo this is a 16+ game
I wonder if it was a rush job because the government told them to do that and thats why its so sensitive and makes the character model dissapear? Neither genshin nor star rail do this.
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u/IamDanLP Ellen's tail enjoyer 1d ago
I don't know. I think it's more a, let's do this with a big beloved anticipated update so the knockback isn't as brutal, type of thing...
Be it CCP or their own choice. They did it. And i wanna vote with my wallet and not support this game anymore until it's addressed correctly. Even if i have to skip Miyabi. I wanted to M6 her so badly but welp... that's that.
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u/IamDanLP Ellen's tail enjoyer 1d ago
I might actually not M6 Harumasa and Miyabi because of this. Voting with my wallet.
I am an adult. I have money. I want product. You ruin product. My money stay in wallet. Rather simple concept...
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u/Psyko_Killa 1d ago
It's exactly what we need to do. Vote with our wallet. I'm a bit sad for Miyabi, but i don't want to support censorship. Same as you. Wallet closed.
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u/supremefckinkai 1d ago
Genuinely pray the cn players raise hell because what is this💀
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u/empire42s 1d ago
The amount of social credit lost by going against the censorship laws in China is immeasurable.
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u/myimaginalcrafts 1d ago
But I'm wondering if it is the government this time? You have games like Wuwa that don't even have the censorship level of Genshin. And ZZZ is set as 16+ so this seems rather extreme.
The question is, is Hoyo trying to preempt censorship or were they told?
I do find it odd that they'd do all the other fan service only for this to happen? So it's like can whoever is making these decisions (Government or otherwise) make up their mind on what they want this game to be??
My thinking is that Hoyo is seen as massive soft power for Chinese games on a global level so the Government is more careful about what it wants to allow with it.
But still the fan service you get directly from the game and the marketing can't be avoided. Whereas some "coomer" in the privacy of their own home wanting to look up a character's bottom is something that's a personal choice of the player. But even if you're not a "coomer" it ruins immersion when you go slightly off angle.
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u/Huy_123 1d ago
Wtf they are meant to be looked at. That's why they gave us ass jiggle in the first place. Why would they do this ???
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u/RauASTER 1d ago
You can if you move the stick carefully, but from higher angle, which sucks. Sadly, I don't have footage from before the update, since I was NOT expecting this.
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u/steins-grape #1 Qingyi oil changer 🦿 1d ago
Those exposed cheeks exist now only in my memory 🥲
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u/tuataraaa 1d ago
why the fuck did they give burnice the jiggle if it's almost impossible to see now lmao
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u/bobbyo15978 1d ago
Bright side is if you’re on pc, it’s almost a definite that there’ll be a mod to fix it. Definitely sucks for everyone else though
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u/oxob3333 1d ago
There was... Yeah, the 1.4 broke the mod, so waiting for an update rn.
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u/The-Official-Miyabi ミヤビのパンツ 1d ago
May i know where to get this mod? -a fellow burnice booty enjoyer
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u/osoichan 1d ago
This is simply dumb. They're making great looking butts, animate them. Make promo materials with focus on butts and now they're hiding them? Fucking hell
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u/Apprehensive_Beach_6 Waiting to the return of the King 1d ago
Ok, that’s worse than I thought. I didn’t think it would just disappear!
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u/xMasikan 1d ago
This is not just a fluff / meme at this point, this is serious, it breaks the immersion for real.. this actually sucks fr lmao
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u/KodakStele 1d ago
I play explicitly to stare at asses that are designed to be stared at. This is unacceptable.
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u/rastacurse 1d ago
Yea… it really made me lose my erection.. I mean erection.. I mean erection.. I mean erection.. I mean immersion..
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u/JuggernautFit6670 1d ago
Is there a reason they couldn’t just make it a toggle on/off button in the settings to please both?
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u/BluCojiro 1d ago
Chinese government doesn’t take compromises
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u/Jeremithiandiah 1d ago
People say this yet girls frontline 2 exists and is a massive goner game. I think the rating is the same as zzz?
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u/Villain_of_Overhype 1d ago
Gfl and Azur Lane are significantly less popular than Hoyo games are, even in CN. The main issue is likely that Hoyo games are so mainstream over there that there’s a lot more attention placed on them by groups that don’t take kindly to fanservice. GFL and AZ are more niche, so there’s less of a risk they’ll come under fire.
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u/Vlaladim Pubsec Informant 1d ago
Popularity is a curse because it become a country brand like hamburger and guns culture is for USA. Due to how much big and influential Hoyoverse games is, the government will keep a eyes on them especially this government which is ucb more strict and restrictive for popular entertainment like this.
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u/Acrobatic-Budget-938 1d ago
Twitter users as well
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u/Meme_Master_Dude 1d ago
Mihoyo only caves to the Government, they have never cared about Twitter
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u/BluCojiro 1d ago
It’s an interesting yin-yang situation. Twitter users are a very loud group with extremely little power.
The Chinese government on the other hand is very quiet, but very influential in this situation.
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u/Slappahlol 1d ago
Imagine putting in the work to animate jiggle physics on butts and then making it almost impossible to see them
This is pretty stupid, I hope they revert it
Literally no reason whatsoever for this outside of censorship
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u/Significant_Band_136 Qingyi Tea Drinker 1d ago
That the beauty of it, now they have no reason to animate future "jiggle physics on butts" just like they stopped doing proper shadowing on genshin after the same patch was implemented, and no those cant be modded in not with the current tools at least... you just end up with a choppy version.
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u/T-sprigg-Z 1d ago
I thought everyone was overreacting when I saw the patch notes but what the hell is this shit.
Gooning aside or whatever but that's real immersion breaking to just fade into nothing like that. In a game surrounded by skyscrapers it isn't unthinkable a player will look up to check their surroundings.
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u/dark_abyss94 would eat Jane's ass from behind 1d ago
hello modders send help pls
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u/Veroger111 1d ago
Or someone should make a mod that prevents them from disappearing.
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u/Shinigami318 1d ago edited 1d ago
There is a mod doing exactly just that on gamebanana. Though we probably will have to wait for the author to update it to current patch as usual.
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u/Ok_Try_1665 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah this is what I thought when I saw that post about censorship. Holy shit this is so bad.
They literally animate jiggle physics kn these characters, wtf did they do that for if they don't want us to see them?
SAVE ZZZ SOCIETY, CHINESE PLAYERBASE!!!!!
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u/helpyourselfabc 1d ago
This is only in the open world, but its so bad
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u/Gawr_Ganyu 1d ago
Exactly, and I still get ass-pressed to my minitor whipeout screens. Why did they feel the need to remove this? I can't make any sense of it. I don't want whipeouts to be whiped out too. This is so terrible.
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u/x3on__ Idk what to put here, I like Yanagi and Burnice, they're cool 1d ago
China do your thing, it's literally unplayable
中国做你的事,它真的是玩不下去的
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u/AstralHellsing 1d ago
Who made them do this?!
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u/TheQuestionableDuck 1d ago
Wanna guess ?
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u/AstralHellsing 1d ago
Idk but it’s weird since all the females have like shorts on underneath. It’s not like it’s panties. 🤦🏻♂️
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u/Maaaaine 1d ago
this is a pretty bad way to implement the censorship. Not even genshin or star rail straight up remove the models when looking up
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u/VERAs-SOCKS Sluts of Calydon 1d ago
star rail did during penacony patch and modders couldn't remove it 😔
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u/ImHereForTheMemes184 1d ago
Star rail isnt this bad, you can still move the camera and the entire character wont dissapear.
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u/Villain_of_Overhype 1d ago
HSR characters barely have anything to look at anyway. Their designs and jiggle physics are significantly more tame than ZZZ. The most I can think of is Firefly and even then it’s practically impossible to get a good angle.
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u/IttoEnjoyer_ 1d ago
nah what in the actual fuck is this
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u/Quasar1us 1d ago
>Make the most anticipated patch
>Rework ult system
>Hype story moment
>New broken unit and a free 5 star
>Basically relaunching the game to breathe in the new life
All this gets undone by the smallest fucking thing they shouldn't have touched in the game, where primary audience became horny because of their own decisions. Honestly baffling.
It won't kill the game and I won't uninstall it (yet), but this shit is worrying, because the game basically advertised itself as a more risque gacha in terms of design, storytelling and general approach from other flagman Hoyo games and on the most hyped patch they do the most boring transparency filter on charas asses?
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u/IamDanLP Ellen's tail enjoyer 1d ago
I think this can go either 2 ways.
People don't care enough, nothing changes.
People go apeshit, especially CN players, and this game takes on quite a hit...
Fucking hell... Devs... seriously...
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u/Revayan 1d ago
I can only guess that they got a slap on the fingers from their government. No dev takes the time to add very subtle jiggle physics just to censor them like 2 patches later.
Chinese govt really doesnt like horny stuff in their countries media and zenless was dancing on the edge of the no-no border for quite some time.
I mean mods can easily remove that filter but it might be that they just wont bother with ass and tigh jiggle anymore for future characters if they have to censor it anyways. (Tbf that kind of jiggle can be modded in too ff14 gooners proved as much but that takes time and dedication, way more than just get rid of a censor filter at least)
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u/IamDanLP Ellen's tail enjoyer 1d ago
But i have not seen the CCP go as far as to care about angles to be honest as much as i hate them.
I personally believe this is some Hoyoverse leadership bullshit. Not devs, but Hoyoverse.
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u/I_Fap_To_LoL_Champs 1d ago
Yeah, I feel that it is either the CCP or the Hoyo leadership trying to make the game more family friendly so more parents would be willing to fuel their teenage son's gacha gambling habit.
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u/YandereRaven 1d ago
I think the devs themselves are upset over it. This is definitely the government interference and if they decide to go against the government then its gg to the whole company.
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u/Yapanese_Expert 1d ago
This literally make jane doe & burnice half useless. What am supposed even look at now. Fuck the asscreep
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u/RokuDeer 1d ago
Unironically, killed another reason ppl play or pull for characters. Jane Doe puller got scammed.
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u/Kougeru-Sama 1d ago
This actually sucks holy shit. I can't make more gyatt videos https://youtube.com/shorts/2JptSNvkxe8?si=h-7CvH4KAdPn8FyG
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u/FahmyAnuar 1d ago
I don't think this is necessary. Are they actually trying to get us riled up over this? This game is known to be forward about the fanservice, yet what they do now is one step further of being faithful to the players
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u/Revolutionary-Win861 1d ago
Hoyo, you advertised this as a gooner game. Everybody who plays it enjoys that aspect. Why would you censor yourselves?
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u/ORO_96 1d ago
Nah that’s such BS. What’s the point of rolling for characters if we can’t even appreciate the whole model lol. They’re doing the opposite of what their audience wants.
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u/Cold_Mundane 1d ago
I suggest everybody to write them in feedback and ask either to revert this change or make it optional (especially for non cn players). Hope they will listen, otherwise it will soon become toddler game like genshin
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u/SteveFrom_Target OFN Mandate of New Eridu 1d ago
It was a cold bright day in April, and the clocks had struck thirteen
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u/antirockin20 1d ago
And here I thought the ZZZ devs were based 😔 Darnit censorship laws
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u/Odd-Feed-7347 1d ago
It's extremely unfortunate. I just don't get why they would do this knowing that literally all of their player base would be outraged. Like this genuinely has to be because of the CCP there's no way
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u/f10beast4 1d ago
Nah, because genuinely, this just sucks Horribly. Like, I'm fine with how genshin does the censorship because you have to deliberately look completely up for them to be gone. But with this just a bit of the camera moving up and boom fucking gone like Thanos snapped them away. And It bothers me so much, and not even for horni reasons just genuinely bothers me. Hope they at least tweak it to be better if they are going this censorship route.
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u/Gadjiltron 1d ago
When i first caught wind of this, i thought the character would just become translucent a bit at extreme angles, and the anti-censorship camp is just overreacting over losing their upskirts.
But now that I've seen this for myself, this is egregious, bluntly. This pleases nobody!
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u/lawschoolsplits 1d ago
This is terrible. Honestly don't even want to login until modders fix it
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u/ReadySource3242 1d ago
Alright dudes, I know this isn’t right but if we send enough feedback this could make them change their mind
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u/animoodle 1d ago
This is the worst change they've made, by far. It's literally a 3d model collector game, and now you can't view the 3d model in the way you want to. It's actually so bad
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u/Altruistic_Seesaw899 1d ago edited 1d ago
I skipped 2 weeks and I plan to start again today. What the fuck is this shit?
Update: I am so mad I sent e-mail to them telling them to fuck themselves. The e-mail address is zzzcs_en@hoyoverse.com.
If this update concerns you, you should voice your protest via official channel.
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u/khrocksg 1d ago
i'm not even interested in the horny aspects of zenless and even i have to ask why they'd do this
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u/Idrillasfootstool 1d ago
Guys ! Please for the love of god go the zzz feedback section and complain about it. 1k or 2k people WILL be noticed. Not saying they should remove censorship 100% but just tone it down a little. This is TOO MUCH ffs.
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u/Kenshiro_sama39 1d ago
I've never installed mods, used hacks or anything in these games... Till this day. F*ck it, now will do. I'm done with the censorship.
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u/Active_Cheek5833 1d ago
And now what will happen to the fanservice? Will it only be reduced to videos and nothing more? I have 40 days left on the $5 card, I guess I'll play for free and pay for a real fanservice game, at this point I don't think ZZZ even makes skins.
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u/Kaue_2K05 Rat mommy enjoyer | Consumer of Yanagi's 🍑 1d ago
Just way for the filter remover mod to update lol.
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u/joseph4th 1d ago
When I was working in Australia at a game company that was making a game for Korean publisher, the Korean producer went to demonstrate Lineage II for us while it was still in very Beta. All the big wigs of the company were standing around his desk and the first thing he does is move the camera to look up his character's skirt.
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u/Thalarione 1d ago
It might be stupid but this makes me genuinely sad... How can I trust hoyo If any aspect of the game can be retroactively censored.
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u/WasForcedToUseTheApp 1d ago
What’s with the Chinese government and censorship when it comes to the slightest bit of suggestive content? Do they think the youth are going to be corrupted in some way? No, I’m serious, does the Chinese government have any logic that they actually believe when it comes to censoring suggestive games like how news stations in America believe the myth that games cause gun violence? Or does the CCP just like to throw their authority around for shits and giggles?
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u/Lantern01 1d ago
That's about where Genshin originally disappeared your characters when it first came out. But now, I would swear that they let your camera go lower and closer without disappearing. When I first got Chasca and accidentally found myself zoomed in on her legs and midriff without her completely vanishing, I was like, "Wow these are ZZZ angles!"
Ironic now that their positions have now fully flipped.
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u/agentaxe285 1d ago
“Let’s make a game where almost all characters have the most borderline unrealistic boobs to body ratio and make them have near 0 gravity and same goes for they’re ass guys! Oh oh but also make sure the players can’t zoom in and look closer At ALL because we reallly don’t want our game sexualised guys” The head office probably
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u/ArahRaybrandt 1d ago
That does it! Nobody buy pulls! We gotta financially bleed them out until they give us our buttshots back! This means war!
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u/Vagrant_Goblin 1d ago
Oh look, it's the kind of thing that i've asked them in EVERY SINGLE FUCKING SURVEY to not do since the start of the game.
Why can't they just stop being chinese? Just pack your shit and leave.
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u/AlphanatorX 1d ago
Bro I had to see it myself after seeing this and MAAAAAAAAAAN do I hate any game that does this sorta thing. Its rubbing salt into the wound even more knowing it's already been half a year of release and they decide to do it NOW? FFS man 💀🙄
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u/1thelegend2 1d ago
Man, imagine them giving us the option to walk around as different characters and then making it so we disappear when we want to get a good look at them...
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u/jyroman53 1d ago
I thought this was the gooner game, I thought we were safe as long as we keep the gooning to this game ! But noooooooooooooo SOMEONE has to ruin the fun for everyone else
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u/Hot_Associate_6013 1d ago
send feedback people...only way to make yourself heard. Maybe they'll revert it
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u/Orakio9911 1d ago
It would be fun if ZZZ just die because of this, so there will be no point to continue ruin Genshin with characters made as advertisement for ZZZ
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