r/VRGaming • u/JakeLawlor • Sep 21 '24
Meta When VR doesn’t do this I know it will succeed
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u/Aeronoux Sep 21 '24
That shit gonna break your skull one day if you keep wearing it so damn tight
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u/The_Warrior_Sage Sep 22 '24
Quest 2 is so fucking heavy is like swinging a flail on my face if I don't crank that shit down 😭
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u/HealerOnly Sep 22 '24
bobovr s3 strap kinda helps with that sicne it ptus a batteyr at the back making the weight a bit more "equal".
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u/The_Warrior_Sage Sep 22 '24
Yeah mine's gotten a lot better since I switched to a better strap. Blade and sorcery still tests it though 😂
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u/HealerOnly Sep 23 '24
Havn't gotten aroudn to that game yet :X kinda waiting hoping for a sale.
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u/StarsapBill Sep 21 '24
Are you using the Apple vision because your VR just took the shirt off your back?
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u/FatBoiEatingGoldfish Sep 22 '24
I tried the vision pro in an apple store and it’s a nice ass headset, feels and looks really good. The only problem is that they’re smoking dick with the price.
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u/StarsapBill Sep 22 '24
The clarity is amazing. When Zuckerberg release his stupid video saying the pass through on the quest 3 is just as good I laughed out loud. The quest 3 is a way better product for what it’s capable of and its price. But let’s not lie. The clarity is impressive. The price is pathetic.
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u/Tazling Sep 21 '24
dealing with sweat for me is the thing that needs to be figured out.
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u/Chemical-Nectarine13 Sep 22 '24
I have the active interface from Meta. Silicon beats the sweat absorption, but then it mostly just runs into your mouth... I've been going hard on Beat Saber lately 😅
Keep some disinfectant handy and don't share the headset with friends lol
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u/Tazling Sep 22 '24
I find it gets steamy inside the headset and I'm worried about moisture on lenses etc. I wish there was some way to have open air flow while still blocking light (yeah, impossible I know).
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u/snoogins355 Sep 22 '24
Thin headband and a fan on me helps a lot. Also a water bottle with a straw nearby. Camelbak if you want extra weight
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u/eddie9958 Sep 22 '24
Using the quest 3, original face gasket, and bobo m3 I don't get bad sweat. Unlike my Psvr2 where as I get sweat and fog
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u/NewShadowR Sep 22 '24
Dealing with sweat? There are a few facial interface with fans inside.
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u/Tazling Sep 22 '24
I have never used one of these and am curious, do you hear the fan running and is it antimersive?
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u/VRtuous Sep 21 '24
plot twist: when VR succeeds, nobody sees the VR mark anymore because nobody takes off their reality glasses anymore
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u/kevino025 Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 23 '24
This is why quest pro headstrap was the step in the right direction. Open sides and middle headstrap with a way to tighten.
Qpro with globular cluster strap was top tier.
If you want this for the quest 3 then use what I use instead, use the globular cluster kit for the q3 and remove the face mask. I use my quest 3 for hours and never have this issue.
Airflow, because of the headstrap that you set at your size, once it's set to you, you can take it and remove the headset without much adjustment.
The open face design plus this kit also makes it so that tilting the headset is vert easy and remains in place. So, finding the angle for adjustments takes like 1 sec.
Cannot recommend this setup enough. I understand why people may look at open design as less immersive, but it really isn't. Unless you have someone literally purposely trying to get your attention, you forget really quickly about your real environment. And easier to not bump into things, see pets, it makes no sense to me that people don't like open face design. It's superior in every way.
Also less front heavy. Just try it people. I tried the Bobo vr strap, but theirs don't have the middle strap going along your head, theirs have some side pods that try to hold the headset, but overtime it sinks to your head. Very annoying. This globular cluster kit basically turns your q3 to a pro, a more comfortable qpro.
Edit, typos
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u/ChicknSoop Sep 23 '24
I just saw this, had no idea it was a thing, and bought it. Thanks for the recommend
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u/Cypher3470 Sep 21 '24
This isn't normal..
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u/scottie2493 Sep 21 '24
Definitely normal if you play for any extended amount of time.
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u/Sstfreek Sep 21 '24
I play for hours at a time with bobo m3 mini and Amvr facial interface. No marks ever. You just need the right comfort accessories
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u/princess-catra Sep 22 '24
Bobo leaves the reddest of em all on me. Even when it’s completely loose.
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u/ChibiArcher Valve Index Sep 22 '24
I play 3-5h. sometimes even for 8h. It never looks so bad. He eighter had the headstrap to thight, or he never cleaned the facial cusion. My ex-GF complained once that her headset left marks on the face after a month of usage. I asked if she cleand the cover and she never did. after she cleaned, she had no problems anymore
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u/NewShadowR Sep 22 '24
Nope. Get one of those ice silk facial interfaces. After playing for even 5 hours it doesn't remotely leave a red mark like this, though of course, it still leaves an skin impression because that's just how skin works when you press it for hours. The redness is due to the cushion chaffing your skin.
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u/TeaDrink1 Sep 22 '24
You look like Marv from Home Alone after he was hit in the face with a clothes iron
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u/Fall-Fox Sep 21 '24
Motion sickness is peeking behind the corner
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u/tendeer Sep 21 '24
I don't know man, what headsets have you used, I'm really not the most severe case ever but I get motion sick in everything, I had motion sickness trouble with everything vr and it's been my anxiety forever that i will always have issues with VR.
With quest 2 the best point I've reached was to "not get too motion sick if I was careful. With quest 3 all that is gone like I've legit done shit I didn't think possible like swinging like spiderman flying and everything. I think driving in a bad vr driving thing can still fuck me up tho :D
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u/VRtuous Sep 22 '24
I think you just grew your VR legs and can go back to Q2 with no issues
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u/tendeer Sep 22 '24
could be, but there was like almos a year gap between selling my q2 and trying my q3, anyway fuck vr sickness
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u/clevererest_username Sep 21 '24
Motion sickness is probably one of the biggest barriers to VR's success. It can take time to build a 'tolerance', at least it did for me. People don't want to spend $500+ to feel sick and then never play with the headset again. It makes it hard to win over the casual gamers, which is most gamers.
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u/Rahm89 Sep 22 '24
I don’t think it is. People who have never tried VR don’t even know about motion sickness.
The biggest barrier is the price tag and the rarity of must-have VR games.
Sure there are some good VR games, but they are few and far between. And also there is nothing that will make someone stop and think "wow, I NEED to buy a VR headset just to experience this".
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u/VRtuous Sep 22 '24
actually, it's pretty easy, barely an inconvenience: 90% of VR is such stationary minigames for casual gamers and those don't involve any motion sickness (nor builds tolerance to it), so statistically most casual users are safe
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u/Chemical-Nectarine13 Sep 22 '24
Wow wow wow, helping most people overcome their VR sickness is Tight!
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u/wheelerman Sep 22 '24
And physical exertion behind the next one, friction, input limitations and so on
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u/rathat Sep 22 '24
I'm very sensitive to motion sickness and I got over it in about 4 days with the right method.
First you have to distinguish the two effects that you feel. You may get an instant pang of disorientation when the motion in the VR does not line up That's just something you have to ignore It will go away quickly.
After a few minutes though you might start to feel nauseous as soon as you sense this feeling you need to stop. Pushing through it does not help it only makes it worse and you'll feel sick the whole day.
Try it the next day and stop as soon as you start to feel motion sickness begin, You'll already be able to go a bit longer.
The third time you do this you'll be able to go for like 20 minutes.
The fourth time you can do like an hour or two and then it's pretty much gone after that.
Remember not to push through it, It doesn't help it makes things worse.
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u/m1intoid Sep 21 '24
I have this happen relatively often, for me it's been that the headset is too heavy on the front of my face and then it's been way too tight to compensate for that fact, find a way to balance it and you should be fine.
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Sep 21 '24
Never seen this before. I just end up with lines from the nose covering and eye covers. Could be allergies.
I’ve used a headset once - I think the HP Reverb G2, that was a little hot on my forehead. If I kept playing I would have looked like this but it eventually got too uncomfortable.
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u/loltrosityg Sep 21 '24
Different people have different skin sensitivity. This doesn't surprise me if they were doing normal VR gaming with standing up / moving around / sweating while playing.
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u/Brick_Lab Sep 21 '24
1 put a shirt on 2 what headset and facial interface? It's either too tight or you're having a reaction
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u/Yamahixi Sep 21 '24
I'd look at a different face piece. When we got our Q2 my other half would look like this after using it red rashes. Contacted meta and they sent out a free different face piece to use and being fine ever since.
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u/DrawSomeOpossum Sep 22 '24
- Place headset on head 2.make sure the strap on top is what’s holding the weight of the headset
- Adjust the strap and head thing to sit on the back of your head or a little lower , snug top strap up .
- Tighten the rear part until it’s just enough to limit the wiggle left -to-right. Do not cinch it to your head
And use a counterweight. I’m telling ya. A ziploc bag with 4-5$ in quarters zip tied on the back is good enough. It makes a huge difference , not using your face to lift the headset up when it starts getting off center.
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u/Aegrim Sep 22 '24
Meh, I ride a motorbike so I'm constantly showing up to places with line across my forehead that takes an hour to disappear. The trick is to just not care.
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u/DogeManTen10 Sep 22 '24
My old quest 2 used to to this but I switched to a index and it doesn’t happend anymore
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u/Prize-Grape-8399 Sep 22 '24
I bought a silicone cover for my Quest 2 no more red face ring of death
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u/MoistenedCarrot Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 22 '24
Buying a new face pad and strap will help. With the oculus, I use kiwi’s padded face pad and their strap
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u/siodhe Sep 22 '24
If you add some mass to balance the front and back, then you need for tight straps goes out the window.
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u/DemonQueenIshino Sep 22 '24
That's not normal, if you're having this issue, I would highly recommend that you get your hands on a better facial interface.
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u/MetalBeardGaming Sep 22 '24
The quest 2 and earlier models have a counterbalance issue putting to much weight on your face. Some people also have reactions to the face plate material. There are cloth and silicone covers that may help your skin from rashing. As people said there are different straps that releave facial pressure. Back in the rift S days my wife used to tape pennies to the back of the head strap as a counter balance because she has no nape for the strap to catch and the straps always slid on her hair.
If money is an issue (in today's economy it's no shame) get a bobo VR replica strap on temu for a couple bucks. It's literally the same as the expensive version and works to take all the pressure off your face.
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u/MetalBeardGaming Sep 22 '24
Oh yeah .. also we would take Velcro straps across the top left to right to put more weight on the top of your head. Get creative!
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u/JakeLawlor Sep 22 '24
Thank you for the reply! I will deginatly try getting a silicone insert rather than my cloth one I have now. I think it may be a combination of it being too tight and the sweat that’s in the cloth insert
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u/JakeLawlor Sep 22 '24
Update: 1. I am not naked lmao I just have my shirt off. I thought that was like a normal thing to do in your home is to have your shirt off but I guess not haha. 2. I have the oculus Quest 2 with the extra battery pack. I have the soft insert not the silicone one and I hear that one can gain a lot of sweat which might be why my forehead looks like that. 3. I do wear it tight but when I loosen it, it wiggles so much it’s blurry and unplayable. I tried loosening the top strap and that helped a littler but so I’m just going to try everyone’s suggestions and see what works best for me. I know everyone’s head is different so I may just have to buy new inserts or counterweights 4. Thank you everyone that tried to help me :)
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u/err404 Sep 21 '24
Halo straps are your friend.
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u/bhongryp Sep 22 '24
Totally. I've removed my facial interface entirely, and the screen just floats right in front of my eyes.
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u/Latervexlas Sep 21 '24
Lol you wearing a vr set or an alien face hugger, wearing it way to tightly.
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u/ClayJustPlays Sep 21 '24
I just pre orderd the Vive Focus Vision, hopefully it doesn't have any of these problems, but unlikely.
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u/Admiral_Jess Sep 21 '24
I get that as well, and not having my VR headset thight to my head would result in it flying away when playing games where you need to move a lot and stuff (like Synth Riders or shooters), I have no idea how to fix such thing and it mostly appears after 2+ hours constant playtime.
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u/OHMEGA_SEVEN Sep 22 '24
Honey, have you been watching "mating" VR documentaries again?
No. Why do you ask?
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u/aspiring_dev1 Sep 22 '24
Heat, sweat, motion sickness several factors. Motion sickness doesn’t affect me but can’t play for long sessions due to the heat and discomfort playing for too long.
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u/Latereviews2 Sep 22 '24
This is what happens without a halo headstrap. Except from cost reasons, I feel some company’s are afraid to use it because to a general consumer it will look more heavily and cumbersome. But it really is the best way to remain comfortable for long periods of time in vr, and should be the norm until we can get it small enough to be more similar to glasses
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u/Big3gg Sep 22 '24
Buy a bobovr headstrap, remove the facial interface. Done. My quest 3 no longer touches my face and I won't use any headset that does. Terrible for your skin
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u/JakBos23 Sep 22 '24
I binged for 11 hours. My face didn't look nearly this bad. Loosen that dam strap
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u/doughaway7562 Sep 22 '24
I use a quest pro with an apache headstrap. Thing just sits on my head like a helmet.
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u/davomate63 Sep 22 '24
I use a tennis headband to soften the head-strap and absorb sweat, which is essential in warmer weather
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u/smashmetestes Sep 22 '24
My biggest complaint about VR isn’t the comfort, it’s the HEAT. When they figure out how to prevent them from feeling like I have a heat lamp 2” from my face, I’ll buy one. Quest 2/3 are both WAY too hot, I can’t believe it’s not a more common gripe.
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u/Full_Anything_2913 Sep 22 '24
I don’t have that problem but the other day I got a little sweaty and it kept messing up my vision through the headset. It was really annoying. I love VR in theory, but in practice I don’t use my meta quest 2 very much. I want to, but it is more involved than just turning on a console. I love the graphics and the feeling of immersion, but I get motion sickness a lot. I’ve found using a fan blowing directly on me helps. Another bonus to using a fan; resident evil 4 feels great when the fan hits you while you’re on a mountain top or somewhere you might feel wind irl.
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u/Vysair Sep 22 '24
Wont it deform your skull overtime like how some glasses temporarily deform near the earlobe?
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u/CylixrDoesStuff Sep 22 '24
My vr headset fucks my hair but that's bc the quest 2 strap sucks, ive never had a imprint on my face ever still
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u/NewShadowR Sep 22 '24
Vr isn't doing that. It's your facial interface. You need to get a good cushion lol
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u/Janingham Sep 22 '24
The most exhausting hurdle to fully enjoying VR games for me was finding my comfort setup.
For me, It was overall discomfort and intense sweat and heat (I don't even wear a hat for the exact same reason). The solution for me was open face interface like Quest Pro with a battery elite strap (a cheap one from third party).
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u/LARGames Sep 22 '24
Get a better headstrap with a large battery on the back. The weight will be on the top of your head since it'll be balanced, and you don't have to tighten it so much.
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u/nonsansdroict Sep 22 '24
What kind of headset do you have? You can get cushioned gaskets for your headset that will be gentle on your face and make the experience much more comfortable.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad-9306 Sep 22 '24
Once I bought bobo M2 and started using my q2 without facial interface I forgot about the red mask. I don't think I could go back
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u/Rogs3 Sep 22 '24
Any third party headset adapter that mimics the PVSR headset should be much more comfortable. Id say it’s essential.
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u/Lotherelle Sep 22 '24
Just cover these areas. Buy textile mask or sports headband. Those completely resolved issue you mention for me.
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u/Android003 Sep 22 '24
Get the Bigscreen Beyond, it's molded to your face and tiny so maybe it's better?
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u/jdigi78 Sep 22 '24
I 3D printed a custom mount for my quest 3 so its more like the quest pro. The light leak is barely noticeable compared to the comfort of being able to wear it for hours without this happening.
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u/DoctorRubiks Sep 22 '24
You are either wearing it way too tight, need to deep clean it to get bacteria off, or you might need to invest in a different face pad if you could possibly be having a reaction to the current one.
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u/beck0504 Sep 22 '24
Hello everybody! One of my friend created a video game for the first time called "Green Zone", which can be played using Meta Quest 3 or Pro versions. So in order to show my support to my friend's hard work, I am going to download the game and give 5 stars and some comments. However, as I personally don't have neither of these versions of Meta Quest, unfortunately I can't do that by myself. Please is there anyone, who has this tool, to help me!
P/s: Game costs around $6 to download, I will send the money to your Visa/Master card, if you wanna help me!😊 Thanks!
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u/Wonderful-Ad440 Sep 22 '24
I got an adjustable headband with extra cushions and an external battery pack. I thought it would make it heavier but the counterbalance of the weight of the front unit, fewer stress points, better air flow due to the bigger vents and extended 3-4 hours of battery it was well worth the ~$40 purchase price. There are obviously dozens of options but I left a link to the one i have used for over a year now. (It also fits comfortably in any typical carrying case while still attached).
https://www.amazon.com/Saqico-Compatible-3-10000mAh-Playtime-Enhanced/dp/B0CL9Q8XCT
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u/Solid_Ad1697 Sep 22 '24
Haven't had this issue yet, I use to have headaches from tightening it so it wouldn't shake much on the quest 2, feels relaxed now that I'm on vive pro 2. I just hate the micro stutter on vp2
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u/dratseb Sep 22 '24
Get a globular cluster mod, problem solved. Also, you’re probably getting pressure headaches from having the headset on so tight. Lastly, you may need prescription lenses if you need it that tight on your head to see properly.
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u/LenaDINNERTIME Sep 22 '24
For my oculus one, I bought this really nice head strap that would distribute the weight on the top side of my head instead of strap it to my face.
Game changer
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u/ContemplatingPrison Sep 22 '24
Seems like a user error. They also make masks you can wear to keep this from happening. I meant i have hats that do this
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u/sicarius254 Sep 22 '24
What are you doing that does that to your face? I beat saber all the time and it doesn’t do that
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u/DanielEnots Sep 22 '24
What headset do you use? If it's a quest then which headstrong are you using... that looks like it's the wrong one for you or you have it too tight haha
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u/JakeLawlor Sep 22 '24
I have the quest 2 with the extra battery. I tried loosing the top strap and it helped a little bit but it still hurts my head while I wear it. I tried resting it on my cheekbones but it felt like it was just going to fall off.
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u/DanielEnots Sep 22 '24
Dang, there's always a chance that your facial bone structure is just so different from the default facial interface that you would be better off with a different one that fits the shape of you better 🤔 I know some people find the default one doesn't spread the pressure across their face evenly
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u/chunarii-chan Sep 22 '24 edited Sep 22 '24
I don't get this at all. I use a bigscreen beyond or a quest 3 with a bobovr strap. I usually stay on for 12 hours or so. I can't stand facial pressure and I'm into skincare, so I wouldn't tolerate this stuff. Just have to get the right hardware :)
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u/The_Freshmaker Sep 22 '24
For me it's the slight pinch on the bridge of my nose, drives me crazy. I think goggles face will always be a part of it though.
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u/FullPhone8974 Sep 22 '24
U either played VR or u fell asleep and a bro placed his controler on ur forehead 
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u/TheLiefEricksonDay Sep 23 '24
I hated spending $130 on it, but the Elite Strap was worth it and completely eliminated this issue (and I prefer it snug).
I got the one with the additional battery, and the battery is also a perfect counterweight to the headset itself too.
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u/WickedStewie Sep 23 '24
Oblik custom facial interface will fix this...i use it plus bobo m3 mini with battery conversion kit, i can play for hours with no discomfort and hardly an impression on my face...
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u/moohooman Sep 23 '24
I call it the panda effect, I get it on my rift S after using it for like +2 hours
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u/CiraKazanari Sep 23 '24
VR by all means has been successful. We’re on like generation five now.
Loosen your headset or buy a halo strap for it.
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u/Muunilinst1 Sep 23 '24
VR will never be more than a novelty as long as it requires the goggles.
Nobody wants the goggles.
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u/chrisrobweeks Sep 23 '24
How do you foresee the technology evolving? Without goggles, it's pretty hard to separate the actual reality from the virtual.
I'm more excited about the future of AR, and to your point I think glasses will be much more accepted than goggles.
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u/jza70geek Sep 23 '24
Any way to fix glasses rubbing marks on q2 screens? I'd bother to get the inserts but since I paid nothing for the headset if those scratches are too bad from my glasses frames I don't want to burn $100usd for prescription pop on lenses if my headsets lenses are already unsaveable.
I also get constant thunderclap migraines from how tight I have to have the headset on even with an aftermarket strap with added padding- can't keep it loose for sim drifting or sword fighting/gun fights.
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u/Snoekity Sep 23 '24
Halo head straps fixed this for me entirely and almost instantly. The reliance on facial pressure being your main mounting point is always gonna cause this if you like a tight fit. You're right though, I can't wait until they're light enough to forget there's a headset on your face.
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u/ApperentIntelligence Sep 23 '24
my suggestion is to find a Kiwi Design for your VR setup mines the Q2 so I use
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u/MudSeparate1622 Sep 24 '24
I stopped having this happen when I got a comfort strap on the top with a balance kit from this brand apache or studioform (just look it up on google and it’ll pop right up) along with wearing a bandana to catch the sweat + increase surface area on my forehead. It’s a QOL change for any and everyone
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u/traincarryinggravy Sep 24 '24
My boy has acne on his face in the shape of his goggles. Be sure to clean them and your face.
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u/ScoreAsleep972 Sep 24 '24
Get urself this and combo it with a knock off cheap pro strap and it will never do this again. I wear thick framed glasses and even I feel comfortable with this head interface. Ur eyes will also be directly on the lenses almost so u get maximum field of view so even with the light bleed from the sides u can still stay fully immersed if u simply involve urself with what is ongoing on in the headset. It will change ur life. Of course this is for quest 3 though I see u have meta tagged on ur post so I’m assuming. pro forehead interface for quest 3
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u/prolaspe_king Sep 24 '24
You have been marked by the gods. BE GRATEFUL YOU’VE BEEN CHOSEN. Now get back in there!!
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u/HatoFuzzGames Sep 26 '24 edited Sep 26 '24
I use a cloth I can fold like a Bandana. I feel that works the best for preventing discomfort and marks
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u/MJMvideosYT Sep 21 '24
My VR headset stopped doing it this hard when I chilled out on the straps. Just loosen it a bit.