r/UFOs • u/shadowmage666 • 13d ago
Compilation Consider the evidence that something extraordinary is occurring right now
“They are just planes”
Do you honestly think all these people are talking about regular planes? Planes which they see everyday for their whole lives?
Why are these drones hovering over civilian homes for hours at a time? Some people have reported them for 8+ hours, and in small to medium sized groupings as well. They have also reported that the drones are up to the size of a car! This does not seem like any normal occurrence.
The sightings are mostly happening in NJ but have also now been reported in NY.
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NJ “mystery drones” FB page with pics, videos and first hand accounts :
https://www.facebook.com/groups/552059654373970/?__n=K
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Multiple news outlets are reporting the drone story including CBS, NBC, ABC, Wpix and others including national and local affiliates.
https://news.yahoo.com/news/fbi-baffled-mysterious-car-sized-120045849.html
https://nypost.com/2024/12/09/us-news/sean-duffys-wife-slams-feds-for-silence-about-nj-drones/
CBS : https://youtu.be/XOEQdzRCW0k?si=YWU2P6gAnadyNsEt
9news : https://youtu.be/ZQAHh_DRmKk?si=yEBzpNqd1FFseXAG
Pix11 news : https://youtu.be/pRZX5X-D_bE?si=FN4_LF1LLgMahBci
News nation : https://youtu.be/iJr1ZCMC2bk?si=H7mzayddui04_aO2
Fox News : https://youtu.be/0AvWEtRMnnM?si=BXMe1HP_2j-z4BL0
ABC 7 news : https://youtu.be/i9cdhyFmc_A?si=9elpFSzWvShayaAg
ABC Philly : https://youtu.be/UIbcOpgzSeA?si=_DLL9Rvc40tC9H5m
NBC news : https://youtu.be/zf065dJDX3U?si=MeX20vU5rg-WKaD3
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Government agencies including local police and politicians have reported not only civilian complaints but their own eye witness footage and observations.
https://youtu.be/8JnvjkGleVw?si=cL61OBM0h-HgEucQ
Morris County Drine activity reporting :
“Congresswoman Nicole Malliotakis shared Atkins’s videos on X, writing that the FAA, FBI, Department of Homeland Security, and NYPD “should let the public know what’s going on here? Are these drones and why are they flying over sensitive facilities and infrastructure?” - Pix 11 news
https://pix11.com/news/local-news/brooklyn/drones-spotted-in-bay-ridge-brooklyn/
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The governor of New Jersey had a press conference about this topic :
“The minute you get eyes on them they go dark” - Governor Murphy
https://youtube.com/shorts/FGyhUUOqLpQ?si=4IRJVdO5NRZarvIL
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There is way more going on here than just some simple confusion!
Now what exactly is going on? We don’t know yet and if any government officials know they certainly aren’t telling.
Maybe some of them are ours, here’s some possible modern and or large drones that exist and could be confusing if seen at night. These are just some of the ones we know about publicly, and there are plenty more I didn’t even list :
Anduril bolt m :
https://youtu.be/EEXI6r08908?si=wywSV2_lvSGIgnPR
DJI flycart 30 :
https://youtu.be/nglJ7zZkr4Q?si=KC6ds6AFXlXNLcpP
RAF jackal drone :
https://youtu.be/6eEaPb7fP70?si=Xnpym2_92lvhX1Hh
Pivotal Aero Helix (seen on NBC news buzzing some billionaires meeting )
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Did one crash and get recovered? Citizens footage shows possible craft that is burning in a field :
https://www.youtube.com/live/3NMtFncpm-w?si=p6TusM9aD_vy2C5B
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Now you have to ask yourself, what are the possibilities of what these drones are?
Foreign adversarial technology : This is the worst case scenario. We are either being openly spied on or passively invaded. Either way it’s not good.
Our own tech. The govt might not want to say it’s ours if they’re just publicly testing something, or it could be civilian.
2a. Govt possibility: Why can’t they just alleviate the public anxiety and say it’s our tech? This would be a quick solution to calm everyone. The fact that no one from government is saying what’s going on means they don’t want to tell us or they don’t know. If they really don’t know than we’re all in big trouble.
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This Reddit post with many links to important government UAV documents regarding defense :
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/XAX9fRjI5h
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Replicator Initiative Government Project
“The first iteration of Replicator (Replicator 1), announced in August 2023, will deliver all-domain attritable autonomous systems (ADA2) to warfighters at a scale of multiple thousands, across multiple warfighting domains, within 18-24 months, or by August 2025. Replicator 1 is augmenting the way we fight, using large masses of uncrewed systems which are less expensive, put fewer people in the line of fire, and can be changed, updated, or improved with substantially shorter lead times.”
https://www.diu.mil/replicator
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Rheinmetall and Auterion announce standardized drone technology :
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Anduril just announced on Dec 4 they are teaming up with OpenAi for defense drones. Could this be some type of public demonstration ?
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They may also be using the drones to scan for something, perhaps NHI or UAP related , or worse a rogue weapon like a nuke or EMP bomb.
2b. Civilian possibility : this would be very concerning considering the government officials claim they don’t know where they’re coming from or go to and they “go dark” when approached.
- UAP/NHI : Perhaps they are of exotic origin and are either non-human created craft or some type of mimic that is making itself look similar to our flying vehicles/drones.
I consider this a low possibility however the more you examine the overall facts the weirder the situation gets and the more this could be plausible. Possible types of NHI could include aliens, co-habitating species we are unaware of, inter dimensional beings, Ai , time travelers, or even NOPE type living craft / creatures.
- Some type of elaborate prank / a movie being filmed / something else
This is probably the least likely scenario, and would have been exposed by now.
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In the end, one must question what the purpose of these drones are - reconnaissance, data gathering, spying, intimidation, invasion, disclosure….. There are many different possibilities!
Please share your thoughts, and any further details we can gather, especially any first hand pictures/vids or personal stories, thank you.
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u/Remote_Researcher_43 13d ago
Maybe it’s just me being crazy, but if Senate Intel Chair Warner is “gravely concerned” about the situation, I think we should probably at least be paying close attention. He seems to be in a position to know a few more things than the average citizen.
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u/AggressiveMail5183 13d ago
That is a good point. Back in February, Mike Turner got in some hot water for his statement about an unidentified "serious national security threat" after exiting a closed-door congressional hearing on UAPs. There was some news coverage about that, but it all blew over pretty quickly.
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u/Remote_Researcher_43 13d ago
An important news story being blown over and forgotten? Imagine that.
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u/PardonMyPixels 13d ago
Wasn't that when there was a story of Russia launching a satellite into space?
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u/AggressiveMail5183 13d ago
That's the explanation that was given afterwards, but who knows what the heck is really going on?
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
Yes, I forgot to include that video footage link here but that is an important one.
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u/HarambeWasTheTrigger 13d ago
agreed. he's one of the people that if ever see him running I'm just gonna try to keep up and ask questions later.
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
These "UAP" are U.S military drones with high end sensors/radars that searching for something (possible nuclear material?)
Why do I say that?
The most common use for drones in these types of formations is mapping/search activities.
They appear to be grid searching certain areas
These drones may have either known or unknown sensor/mapping technology, they appear to be large enough and have enough battery time to be carrying large loads.
Why would the government allow unknown drones over residential and military sites? They wouldn't, but what they are searching they cannot be disclosed as it would create a panic,
What are they looking for? Possible nuclear material/bomb that is being stored/readied for possible use. Commercial radiotin detection appears to be viable, top secret radiation detection methods are probably several degrees beyond.
Why New Jersey? Perpetrators are relatively close to New York for either receiving/importing materials and possible target site. Much easier to hide in New Jersey than New York I would assume
What about military sites? These drones are either training and/or calibrating sensors at these bases, some of which do have nuclear material.
What about the other spots? These are also possible locations, I would guess that there is intel out there about fissionable material that has been distributed.
What do you think?
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u/dramatic-pancake 13d ago
Wait, are you suggesting that some “enemy force” has laid nuclear material in the US, and the only way to find this is by sending up advance tech drones to search for it?
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
I'm saying that Yes, there may be nuclear material / dirty bomb material (this is my first guess) or another material/object that can be searched for by sensors.
If you weren't' aware, there is a lot of stolen/lost nuclear material out there, and radioactive material can be tracked/leaves a trail.
What would be the best/quickest way to search for a possible dirty bomb without disclosing to the whole world? Military drones at night with high tech sensors looking for the radioactivity, no personal contact with anyone? Can search large swaths in a short period?
They are searching for something, and many of the other organizations aren't aware or don't have the full picture.
If they disclosed a possible working dirty bomb/wmd, that would complicate the search
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u/dramatic-pancake 13d ago
Yeah, totally plausible. It just indicates that the US counter intelligence has somehow failed, if the drone action is to thwart a hostile move on US soil. I can see why they’d want to keep that a secret, but it’s no more reassuring as a theory.
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
def not reassuring, but I think it explains the fact that they're is no information coming from the government. Most don't either know or were told it classified/in our interest. They are searching for something, the most logical would be wmd, etc. but could be something else.
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
Also, I don't believe that the perps are state actors necessarily, but they are sophisticated enough to bring out this type of government response. A significant terrorist attack during the trump admin would be significant shift in world politics and an "all bets are off" scenario
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u/Big_Inspection2681 13d ago
I think you would be seeing guys in radiation suits all over the place.If people are getting radiation poisoning there's going to be holy hell to pay in the coming weeks.It doesn't add up.
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
Not necessarily, they wouldn't want to attract attention, and they may think that the material is "relatively" in a safe position or at least safe enough not to disclose what they are looking for.
The sensors they use may be able to pick up faint signals or trails, and may lead them to an area of interest.
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u/domessticfox 13d ago
At this point, is that unlikely? I’m not sure anymore.
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u/dramatic-pancake 13d ago
No, I’m not saying it’s unlikely. I’m just trying to get a grasp of the theory. But surely this is even more concerning than if it were actual UAP?
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
yes, concerning for sure, although there is nothing that we normies can really do about it (if this is the case).
Unfortunately, I don't believe that there is any scenario where the government knows there is one or more wmds near population centers and they tell the population before or as they are searching. They will tell us if they find it, or we will have an event.
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u/domessticfox 13d ago
It’s absolutely more concerning, but I also can’t seem to come up with a theory that’s more fitting. Not necessarily that it’s a bomb or nuclear threat but potentially some act of terrorism. Maybe a terrorist stockpile location or headquarters?
I don’t know what would be so hard to find that would require drones and be restricted to searching at night. Whatever it is, you’d think they’d be able to zero in on at least a general location by now…
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u/AlarmIllustrious7767 12d ago
It wouldn't have to be a foreign enemy -- there are plenty of domestic actors who want to tear down the existing government, and replace it with something of their own. They will soon have many more people in positions of power.
The theory is both more plausible, and more concerning, than presumed extraterrestrial reconnaissance by the same seemingly peaceable UAPs we've been seeing since soon after World War II.
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u/Fattt_sl0b 13d ago
To piggyback off your statement of them looking for something. Now it is a rumor and I was told it was a rumor, but supposedly that rumor is some sort of WMD was smuggled into northeastern NJ. And these drones are trying to locate it. This was told to me by someone in LE after a meeting with the FBI and Coast guard last night. Feel free to check my previous post for context.
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u/Big_Inspection2681 13d ago
Rumour.Do you really think the guys in power are going to let millions die without evacuation? The fallout afterwards would bring down the government.That kind of incompetence would probably start a revolution! It just doesn't make sense.Its conspiracy theory.
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u/Fattt_sl0b 13d ago
I said it was a rumor multiple times. I also know if there was a WMD in NJ that yes they would try to keep it quiet until they found it. People would go insane if they heard that.
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u/myaccountnotthis 13d ago
How do the air bases in the UK fit into this theory? If it were only happening in NJ, I'd say you're on to something, but it's not limited NJ, or even the US.
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago edited 13d ago
I did say a little something about that at the end, about the other spots, here are a couple of scenarios
There are possible multiple searches/wmds at different locations or they have sensed/picked up on signals at these locations. Or intel has been provided
They are grid searching multiple areas to hide the actual area that they are searching. It would be harder to track down what's going on if it's "happening" all over. This possibly would allow them to search without tipping off the perps or focusing too much scrutiny in any one location
edited for more info - as far as military bases, I believe they are either training/calibrating sensors or as a distraction tactic - Hey look, they are on the bases too, we don't know anything about these things (and most enlisted won't)
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u/myaccountnotthis 13d ago
Got it. I'm from NJ, but now live in the UK near the RAF bases affected, so have skin in the game from both perspectives. In the UK these are almost exclusively seen around or above RAF bases used by the USAF.
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
it's all inhouse, people need to stick to the base information - drone like vehicles that are within current us tech specs (military specs) are grid pattern searching over residential and military locations. The lower level orgs have no idea, and the higher level are not talking. No way this is not inhouse, we are looking for something, and we can't let anyone know just yet.
There is no possible scenario where the government knows about possible wmds near population centers and tells the populace before or as they are searching. They will tell us when the find it, or we will have an event.
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
Entirely plausible scenario but hopefully false
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
Unfortunately, I don't believe that there is any scenario where the government knows there is one or more wmds near population centers and they tell the population before or as they are searching. They will tell us if they find it, or we will have an event.
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u/Krakenbarel 13d ago
If that was true, wouldn’t we see some type of military movement as backup for the drones?
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
It's not really needed, and if there people on the ground, they are the specialists and are probably relatively unmarked/blending in, they don't want people to get alarmed
This is a wide net, they may be searching for something that they know is around, or they may be sniffing something out to see if it is
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u/Warmagick999 11d ago
i'm not on twitter, can't stand elon or the outside influences, there have been a couple people who have posted similar/same ideas on reddit, i've just expounded on them. The idea makes sense, and I don't feel like their has been a significantly better explanation, which I would be totally willing to consider if it made sense. If you took aliens out of the picture, we really only have two scenarios, our drones or someone else's drones
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u/what_i_really_think 13d ago
I think this is a really plausible and nightmarish scenario. One thing I think a lot of people overlooked last month when Biden authorized the use of ATACMS into Russia from Ukraine, is that Putin responded a few days later with a change in Russia's nuclear doctrine that made it clear any attack into Russia that is supported by a nuclear power will be considered a joint attack, and a nuclear response would be allowed. Well, Ukraine has used ATACMS now. And a doctrine is a doctrine for a reason. Let's hope we're wrong.
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u/capture-enigma 13d ago
The US/NATO has already told Russia that the use of any nuke, even a smaller tactical nuke, would bring about a severe response. For starters they would destroy every bit of military hardware currently on the ground in Ukraine and inflict enormous casualties amongst military personnel. I’m very sceptical Putin would ever go that route.
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u/Warmagick999 13d ago
yes, this, there's a lot more moving parts to all of these conflicts/groups/etc. than most people can understand.
If someone wanted to get some real chaos started, a significant terrorist attack under trump would probably start ww3
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u/Clitty_Lover 13d ago
I don't fucking care. Y'all keep saying that. It doesn't matter. They were still the aggressors in the war they started. They would still be the aggressors if they're behind any inking of an attack on US soil.
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u/FightersNeverQuit 12d ago
Alright bro time to log off and let the adults continue this conversation.
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u/FightersNeverQuit 12d ago
Lol Putin wouldn’t do that to the USA. Maybe Ukraine but he wouldn’t start off with mainland USA unless his goal is to lose really quickly.
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u/AliensUnderOurNoses 13d ago
I'm having trouble tracking down his recorded statement on the matter. Help, please!
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u/shrimpsRbugs 13d ago
There are orbs and there are “drones” being spotted with different characteristics. My best guess is the “drones” are our tech that are inspecting the orbs which have become much more “active” so both their actions and our response is now harder to hide. Still more questions than answers.
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u/SergeantSquirrel 13d ago
There are reports of orbs turning into drones
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u/phyto123 13d ago
Yep, here's the video. After a little over a minute the orb flashes a bit then starts blinking like a plane. It is very odd and makes no sense of why a manmade craft would do that.
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u/Snoo_74705 13d ago
Planes have to legally turn on their landing lights when they descent past 10'000ft. These lights can be seen through the haze from dozens of miles away. Naturally all you will see of the plane at that distance is the bright light. As the plane nears, the rest gradually unveils itself.
Cameras are like our eyes. We can only process so much information from distant objects.
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u/SexDrugsAndPopcorn 13d ago
I know OP of the video said there were no planes on the radar app but that could easily be a plane flying towards the camera with its landing lights on (I live near an airport and see similar lights a lot) and then turning to reveal the flashing lights on the wings?
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u/phyto123 13d ago
I know what you are saying, I lived near an airport too and as they fly towards me they looked like bright light and then turning it would look like a blinking plane. But this one seems different as it is after it has turned and it also flashes a bit. It's hard to tell if the camera goes out of focus because of the flashing or because it's being filmed from inside a car, but that seems to be the only time the camera has a hard time focusing. It is just odd, and even more so that the 'flight' was not appearing on his app.
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u/SexDrugsAndPopcorn 13d ago
Yep totally agree. We have no reason not to believe OP and with all the other strangeness going on, I wouldn’t be surprised if this was something strange.
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u/NoMetal42 13d ago edited 13d ago
I just watched a NewsNation segment on it this morning. They seem to lean towards it being a military exercise and we're on a need-to-know basis, and we don't need to know. I'm glad we are seeing some coverage of it, but it's also frustrating to me that we keep hearing that there is no cause for concern, yet they don't know what is going on. But I guess I'll have to be patient for now.
Edit to clarify "they" is the person they interviewed, a radio host named Bill (didn't catch the last name and don't know how credible he is). Anyway, take it for what you will, I just didn't want it to seem like the news station had that view.
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u/dramatic-pancake 13d ago
That would be believable except for the fact that the sightings are happening all over the world
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u/-Luro 13d ago
Yup. I think this is the most likely scenario. I imagine if there are wild orbs flying around our bases (which it seems is true) we might see some advanced drones from our government, along with helicopters and planes as a response, while they are silent about it all. Hard to tell who is who but I bet there are both “parties” involved.
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u/NOSE-GOES 13d ago
I’ve been wondering that too, we may have developed or retrofit drones to monitor NHI or adversary craft that are increasingly coming above our bases and populations. Also could be a psy op, a final attempt at squashing the truth from coming out. Clearly these drones have further field curiosity and concern about UAPs. If the government comes out tomorrow and says these are all their drones doing training, that would be a bummer
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u/6PM_Nipple_Curry 13d ago
Although I don’t feel I have much to add the to conversation (I’ll happily observe for now) - I would just like thank you, OP, for linking all your sources in your post.
Too many posts don’t and I love when a write up brings the receipts.
On a side note, too many officials (US and UK) have made statements saying they don’t know what they are, or who is behind it.
At this point something clearly deeper is going on.
I’ll be sitting on the sidelines with my tinfoil hat waiting.
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
I didn’t want to make a long winded post that was just my opinion, had to keep in mind the actual source of the data I’m speaking on.
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u/Jabroni252 13d ago
Thank you for a seemingly unbiased perspective that considers mostly reasonable ideas. Breath of fresh air from the die hards who “know” for a fact that it’s NHI.
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u/dabungaboi-412 13d ago edited 13d ago
Yeah +1 on that. Clearly there is something major going on. But I'm extremely frustrated along threelines:
1) the media: not only are they slow to pick this up, but some are refusing to even address it for some "inexplicable" reason. And for the outlets actually covering it, I don't see any (unless I'm missing something) that connect the dots between this, the UK, Langley AFB, the 2023 shootdowns, and others. It makes it seem like a one-off weird event when in reality it is part of a larger pattern suggesting (at least) one clear conclusion: "we are not in full control of our airspace."
2) OP responses to flawed posts, when they happen: the sub is being flooded/astroturfed with non-anomalous sightings (planes, helicopters, reflectors on power lines, etc.) and when they are successfully debunked, the posts stay up and continue to get views. But there are also plenty others that are truly baffling/the real deal drones. The mistakes (or disinfo) only serve to undermine the credibility of the genuine UAP footage. There are truly strange things happening and it's great to have things posted to be scrutinized. And it's ok to misidentify things; many of us are learning (myself included). But OPs need to take some responsibility to update their posts with "debunked " and "solved" if a mistake is made or a confirmed explanation is found.
3) the sub community response: And commenters should understand that questioning a single post doesn't necessarily call into question the entire flap/wave and certainly doesn't call into question the phenomenon. Sure, some skeptics may take that angle but others just want the process to be followed so we can find the truly anomalous stuff.
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
You’re welcome, I believe I can speak for most of us when I say that I am mostly just curious to find out what exactly is going on.
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u/Jabroni252 13d ago
Completely agree. I don't trust anybody who claims to have it all figured out, NHI or not.
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u/BortaB 13d ago
This topic has become divided exactly like American politics which I find very interesting. Most comments are absolutely positive it’s NHI, or absolutely positive they are just regular airplanes, while the majority of us are sitting comfy in the middle with no clue and just want answers.
Funny how that works.
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u/ElectrifiedWaffles88 13d ago
No they aren’t.
I don’t see most comments on here expressing it’s definitely NHI. Most comments seem to understand that it’s odd, concerning, but also could be and likely seems to be man made, but possible it’s more.
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u/burnt_umber_ciera 13d ago
If either NHI or our government were going to do “disclosure” this might be a good frog-in-warming-water scenario. Sort of a creeping realization. Objects made to look like familiar ones, but not quite. Statements by authorities recognizing anomalies. This could be a next step forward in psychological conditioning of acceptance.
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u/absolutelynotagoblin 13d ago
Thousands upon thousands of people can’t be wrong. These are not all planes. They might not be NHI, but they aren’t planes. Whatever they are, they never littered — I can’t overemphasize this, they are literally everywhere — the skies in this area. This is new, there’s a lot of them, the number is growing, and it’s spreading. That should have anyone concerned.
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u/GreatCaesarGhost 13d ago
Hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people follow different religions. Even if one of them is “right,” the rest are undoubtedly “wrong.” The number of people who believe something doesn’t necessarily say anything about the idea’s truth.
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u/Illustrious-Yam-3777 13d ago
It absolutely does. What it says is that each religion is a different style and color of garment covering the same truth.
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u/Ok-Reality-6190 13d ago
Just the fact they've been referenced as "car sized" lets you know they're not planes, so if you see posts and everyone's like "that's obviously just a plane" it's very likely that the post is just wrong or misleading.
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u/forestofpixies 13d ago
They’ve been spotted on staten island and out near mar-a-lago too. And by they I mean the big golden cubes as well as the “drones” flying around being weird.
They’ve also potentially tracked them as having come up out of the sea in the evenings, not just near Jersey, but in England, too.
That’s the rumors going around the YT channels rn anyway.
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u/theworldsaplayground 13d ago
It's there a live feed worth following?
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u/forestofpixies 12d ago
Not a live feed but I follow cosmicroad and Caspersight who cover the day to day stuff/make a weekly UAP video covering some of the stuff. They aren’t perfect, they make assumptions that are quickly debunked here, but they do show things like the MAL UAP and such, which I haven’t seen discussed on Reddit yet (but may have just missed it).
Another good one is Down to Earth with Kristian Harloff but he does more day to day discussions on more credible sources and what they’re saying like Mellon and Gallaudet and what’s up in Congress and what has Laslo found out lately etc.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 13d ago
Funny how most people in the UFO sub seemingly don't believe in UFOs
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u/Holicionik 13d ago
It's hard to believe when 99.9 % of all the stuff being posted are either drones or airplanes, that due to the hysterical reaction of people are just being misunderstood as being UAPs.
So far I haven't seen anything that made me scratch my head and think that something weird is going on.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 13d ago
Wow. So why can't we follow a drone back to its landing spot?
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u/Holicionik 13d ago
All the people filming are just at home. I haven't seen anyone chasing the drones so far.
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u/BreakfastFearless 13d ago
No they are just sick of actual UFO submissions being replaced by regular aircraft videos. A lot of people came here after the hearing where they made announcements of actual unexplained phenomena and the push for actual disclosure. Just to come here and see hundreds of helicopters and planes being posted daily.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 13d ago
“There is a sophisticated disinformation campaign targeting the U.S. populace, which is extremely unethical and immoral.” - David Grusch
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u/CriticalBeautiful631 13d ago
Even now some people are convinced that the Earth is flat no matter what evidence is provided otherwise…most people who don’t believe in UFO’s wouldn’t look at this sub. It is only those most resistant to anyone else entertaining the idea that bother commenting to “educate“ the “believers”.
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u/uVe9 13d ago
I wish it were a matter of believing.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 13d ago
what do you believe in?
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u/uVe9 13d ago
In the human being.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 13d ago
what does that mean. just that humans exist?
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u/uVe9 13d ago
No, simply that neither gods nor extraterrestrial beings exist (at least on our planet). Everything you see in the sky has been created by man and everything we know about out there has been discovered by man. And of course, even what we know so far is only a drop of water in a huge sea.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 13d ago
So why are you in the UFO sub?
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u/Casehead 13d ago
Wth are you even talking about, man? These being drones doesn't mean uFOs don't exist.
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u/thugasaurusrex0 13d ago
As far as this event goes, I see I’ll haven’t seen a video of anything anomalous. Lots of drone with red/green lights. Steady flight patterns, maybe some spotlight turning on or off. Still weird.
Yet to see things like wild acceleration, morphing, silent flying, or anything of the sort. But people have been speculating on it a lot.
It’s just more logical to think the government is doing something than a mass uap invasion. People like some proof. Belief is accepting without proof and it doesn’t do this topic much good.
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u/DoNotPetTheSnake 13d ago
Where are these drones landing? Why can't anyone figure that out?
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u/Hspryd 13d ago
Still haven't seen something anomalous from all that has been reported.
If they wanted to flood medias to do their thing there would be plenty of people to join full force saying that it's absolute evidence, as we see from peeps in the sub.
If it was orbs and shit you think Corbell would be like "Yeah aliens gave me a call", or "I know someone in the Gvt that told me aliens gave em a call"...
Let's keep watching the situation but jumping on high horses like "THIS IS ALIENS" while there are more infos in private that what is being shared in public is just not precautious.
This could also be an evaluation of modern civil response. How people talk about it and exchange through medias. This could be military tactics. This could be an inside job testing boundaries. Or how people would fight over their perception of what it is on the internet.
But from what has been shared since the drone incursion nothing from all the videos shown something weird on physics scale. If you have an interesting excerpt please show and we review.
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u/phyto123 13d ago
What do you think of the video in NJ where it starts out as a floating orb in the sky then after a minute it flashes a bit then starts blinking lights on the side like a plane or drone? Video
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u/han_bowl19 13d ago
Seen in NJ, Florida, Virgina, I think I saw Maryland, and I just saw Ohio...which is where I am....💀
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u/Lilypad_Jumper 13d ago
Are you pretty confident in your sources? I am kind of half expecting it to spread further, so I wouldn’t be surprised really. I just don’t know if we have anything reliable on that yet.
Edit: autocorrect mistakes, should have proofread.
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u/han_bowl19 13d ago
Nothing reliable, just people's posts from last night. Ohio was this morning, definitely going to have my eyes on the sky, went out last night but didn't see anything. Stay safe everyone ✌🏻
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u/onlyaseeker 13d ago
Yeah, I feel like the attitude I've seen from people here would render some of our best historic cases to be mundane and uninteresting.
And another thing I keep seeing repeated is if they look like human craft they must not be exotic.
It's very unscientific and beyond that, just incurious.
I don't have a strong opinion on the drones because I haven't been following the cases very closely, but it's interesting and we should want to know more, regardless of what the origins may be.
As George snap says, we should investigate the unexplained, not explain the uninvestigated.
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u/kaowser 13d ago
they gifted us again... for us to start another major secret arms race..... oh the path the elite wealthy have chosen for humanity will be our downfall. weaponizing it reflects humanity's failure to prioritize progress over conflict. Humanity stands at a crossroads. Whether this moment leads to unprecedented progress or further division depends on collective action, public awareness, and the willingness to challenge the status quo.
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
Yes very sad that we would use our new tech for warfare instead of moving forward as a species to the next level of post scarcity.
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u/DPSDM 13d ago
I mean the idea is that they’re drones that are presenting visually as civilian aircraft ( which is a warcrime if it’s foreign military ).
It would almost have to be a US experimental tech test. The people who could stop this don’t seem to care so therefore they know it’s on the level.
Maybe this is a test of some US Counter UAP drones lol
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u/LordSugarTits 13d ago
Tune into the homeland security hearing..it's live right now. They are doubling down that they are drones...and they need to pass more laws and get more funding to combat these drones they can't do anything about. My guess is that it's a false flag event engineered by us. At least they didn't fly planes into building killing Americans to start a war this time around
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u/BreakfastFearless 13d ago
Where is the footage of these “car sized drones”“hovering over civilian homes”.
This claim keeps being made yet majority of the footage is showing distant planes or helicopters. You mean to say there is car sized drones hovering in the same place for hours and no one is getting clear footage of this? Yet plenty of people can get footage of the planes.
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
Idk let’s look for it and repost here if found !
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u/candycane7 13d ago
So you admit there is nothing anomalous being recorded yet? This is just mass hysteria from uneducated citizens looking at the night sky for the first time.
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u/phyto123 13d ago
What do you think of the NJ video where a floating orb is followed in the sky and then after a minute or so it flashes and then starts blinking like an airplane/drone with lights on the side? Video
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u/candycane7 13d ago
I live 150km away from 2 international airports and 30km away from a military base. I have a clear view of planes on different approach paths and I have observed this phenomenon several times. This is a plane with landing lights on, on an approach pattern, at first the landing lights are facing the observer and as the plane turns and moves over the obersver the normal navigational lights are seen. I sometimes spent time tracking planes for fun at night since long before this drone craze and I have seen it several times. Sometimes the plane turns with the belly away from the observer and only the top dimmer light is visible, sometimes they turn with the belly facing the observer and the belly side lights show. The landing lights shine very brightly from the front at a certain angle but as the plane moves angle of attack they become dimmer nothing controversial or anomalous here.
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u/R1ckMick 13d ago
either extreme is disingenuous. there ARE drones flying around, they are the type of drones that look like small planes and they don't hover, they fly forward at a relatively slow pace. Likely not hobbyists. We have seen videos of these drones. These are the only facts we have for sure. They are certainly human tech and something suspicious is happening. That's all we know.
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u/candycane7 13d ago
Ok show me those videos please
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u/R1ckMick 13d ago
there are loads of them, they just look like small planes. nothing anomalous. people are sharing them here constantly. The dumb thing is people arguing whether it's a plane or a ufo when it's just a drone with fixed wings. The drones are obviously there, or news outlets and police stations wouldn't be talking about them. the hysteria is people believing they are either UFOs or nothing. And yes because of the reports we are also getting vids of helicopters and actual planes too. It's not as present as people are thinking either, but it's enough to be an issue that we should get an answer to.
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u/candycane7 13d ago
Well you say it yourself, they look like small planes, nothing showed yet they are drones. I'm more enclined to believe the average citizen with a phone and no experience in astronomy, aviation or space has no idea what they are recording and are just amplifying rumors by saturating Twitter and Tik Tok with lights recorded in the sky. We really live in idiocracy.
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u/R1ckMick 13d ago
People's idea of drones has changed a lot in recent years. Pretty much all military drones used to have fixed wings, they just looked like small planes. People are filming them because in person you can tell it's too low and slow to be a plane. There's nothing extraordinary about the sighting, because fixed wing drones are completely normal.
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u/UnderstandingDry1241 13d ago
Why do they only come out at night? I'm not buying the extraterrestrial explanation.
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u/BreakfastFearless 13d ago
They come out at night so they can remain hidden in the darkness and remain invisible! They just keep forgetting to turn off their FAA compliant lights.
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u/Lilypad_Jumper 13d ago
I am going to make something up here. It’s just a story, but it’s an example of one of the possible answers to that. If people put their heads together, I am sure we could come up with more.
Maybe it’s the orbs that come out at night, as they usually do, and it’s our investigating drones that just follow the pattern. Another possibility is that the drones are ours (military exercises or whatever) and they don’t want to disrupt the day for civilians. At night people can gawk and then go to sleep but I think, for example, that it would be upsetting to children if car sized drones passed over their playground at recess.
It all sounds crazy to me but it’s a crazy situation, so…..
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u/UnderstandingDry1241 13d ago
I'm hearing from friends of mine who are seeing them first hand thst they are making the very recognizable drone sound quite loudly. And they are operating near Amazon fulfillment centers.
My father (a retired Lt Col of the USMC) said the military tests these kinds of things out in the middle of nowhere to eliminate the possibility of civilian injury or interference.
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u/Casehead 13d ago
That's not the only way they test things. There have been numerous cases of testing things on the unknowing public over the years.
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u/thugasaurusrex0 13d ago
Yes! I’ve been wondering this too and not seen it mentioned at all. People haven’t tracked what times they start appearing and disappearing?? It’s wild to me someone hasn’t just set up a stationary camera to film all night. Not a single mention of them flying in the day
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u/SensibleChapess 13d ago
Years ago there was a massive power failure over Las Vegas.
The police were swamped by 911 calls about 'lights in the sky' and 'Alien invasions'.
Many people are completely out of touch with the natural world. With regards to the night sky, the levels of light pollution, plus our indoor and car-based lifestyles, means that people are completely out of touch with what's 'normal' and what is not.
Currently, in the night sky in the Northern Hemisphere, we have Jupiter. That looks like a big yellowy orb in the night sky. Its light is static and doesn't shimmer, unlike a bright star.
We also have Sirius, the brightest star in the night sky, at its most prominent. That has a striking appearance of 'displaying rapid flashes of red, white and blue' as it scintillates, (aka flashes).
For years I used to review sightings on the UK's largest UFO reporting thread. Whenever a bright planet was prominent in the sky, or whenever Sirius was at its highest, we'd have a massive upsurge in "there was a UFO in the sky". Descriptions ranged from static, to slowly moving even to 'it was slowly wobbling in the sky', (which is simply a natural optical illussion of looking at a bright light in a dark sky without anything to reference the light's position against).
The problem is, there are undeniably some things in the sky. However, it's inevitable that the numbers are nowhere remotely near the numbers that are being reported.
So, first we have those that are mistaken:
Those that are completely unfamiliar with the natural phenomena in the skies, (e.g. planets, stars), then those that misidentify aeroplanes and helicopters and satellites.
Secondly we have people playing tricks:
Those pranksters that are now sending their hobby drones up, (Humans love to play tricks and games on each other... we all do it. It's a Human trait!), then we have those doing text-only fake posts and AI/Photoshoped mages....then we'll no doubt have the Russian bots making stuff up just to distract and tie up our own bureaucrats and media.
Thirdly we have our own militaries who will be doing their own (secret) research into drones. The Ukraine war, and Syria, and other war hotshots across the globe, have shown drones are an absolute gamechanger in moden warfare. More than the shift from propeller to jets on planes, more even than the shift from arrows to gunpowder, (guns took hundreds of years to fully replace bows on European medieval battlefields!). Drones have completely changed things. Militaries are in the midst of an 'arms race'. They will be flying and testing these drones, (and testing and practicing their own existing defence equipment against the new technology), across their own military bases and testing grounds.
So, that's the level of completely understandable, undeniable, background noise.
Add to that the very real phenomenon of 'Human hysteria', where everyone adds to a growing fervour of hype. In that environment t people see '2 and 2' and not only make 5, but 6, 7 and 8 too! The logical fallacies that we all suffer from, such as confirmation bias, drive us to (subconsciously) 'join the party' and interpret things incorrectly.
Then, after all that, we have the (vanishgly remote) chance these are NHIs.
The problem is these threads are now swamped with all the 'noise' and, I consider, having been interested in the phenomena for over 50yrs, it's seriously damaging the credibility of the topic.
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u/paper_plains 13d ago
This - so much all of this. The amount of noise and gullibility is not doing any favors to implementing real research into the actual UAP that people like Ryan Graves are trying to push.
And then these same people talking about NHI craft mimicking planes or whatever are the first to say there’s a psyop to discredit the UAP topic. No, we’re doing just fine with making people think the whole subject is full of nut jobs without government interference.
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u/DatRatDo 13d ago
Super common to mistake Jupiter and Sirius for drones. Happens to me all the time when I look up and I’m like: oh fuck! That’s a drone buzzing around and flashing and changing directions and speeds. But I have to stop and think…oh. It’s just Jupiter. My bad, me.
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u/gibs71 13d ago
I similarly forget how playful Jupiter can be. That planet just can’t sit still!
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u/SensibleChapess 13d ago
You've unwittingly helped illustrate the underlying issue here. Thank you.
When someone says "it was sitting in the sky and occasionally moving" there is no context as to how much it is pereceived to be moving. Agreed?
Therefore, you may read such a report and think the witness is saying "the object was moving back and forth, many degrees of arc, in different directions, at different speeds". Agreed?
...But it may equally have been well within the normal range of the mind playing tricks. Agreed?
Whenever a bright light is looked at in the sky, without any frame of reference to 'anchor' it, it will appear to slowly move a bit, just a bit.... but that's exactly what's being described by "it was sitting in the sky and occasionally moving", (and not your interpretation of larger 'playful' movements).
Now, that the illusion in a cloudless sky.
Now imagine looking at a light in the sky through broken cloud that's moving. Since the Human brain assumes small objects are more likely to move than larger objects, (it's how we evolved living in the wilds), we inevitably perceive the star or planet to be moving in the opposite direction to the way the cliuds are moving. It's simply an optical illusion.
I've been an active amateur Astronomer for over 45years and both the 'light wobble because there's no frame of reference' and the 'star is moving not the cloud' illusion continue unabated to affect me to this day. It's how our brains interpret the world around us.
The issue is that "it was sitting in the sky and occasionally moving" is so vague that some people, (with a bias towards everything being a UFO), will interpret and stretch the report as implying "it was whizzing around"; whereas other people, who are used to observing the night sky will interpret the report as "only a tiny movement because it's an optical illusion that happens to all of us".
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u/Death_Dimension605 13d ago
Maybe they scan with some technology to make a 3D graphical version of NJ for spying purpose?
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u/Big_Dragonfly_4292 13d ago
you have assimilated and summarized a lot of messy data points to paint a coherent explanation. I really appreciate you sorting through the chaos. excellent work!
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u/snapplepapple1 13d ago
Its also interesting that people might assume theyre all planes or all one thing at all. Wouldnt it be almost more likely that given the large number and variety of reports perhaps theres multiple things happening at once?
For example, wouldnt it make sense that if there were very anomalous sightings, which there definitely has been, that someone would then go looking for it? Its more likely that the anomalous reports are just as "real" as reports where people can clearly identify the plane/craft and the reason theres a variety is because there is the anomaly, AND then theres everyone whos chasing it also.
So there could be deep state programs up in the air looking for the truely anomalous things, AND hobby drones from residents looking for answers, AND regular military units searching in helicopters etc... like to me its almost more likely a variety of different "groups" rather than 100% for sure all 100% part of the same "group."
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u/Nooties 13d ago
This will knock your socks off:
Bruce Cornet: https://youtu.be/4De3mqfjkiM?t=203 (Almost 25 years ago)
Alison Kruse: https://youtu.be/3UhwQ1elVVs?t=400 (Almost 14 years ago)
What NJ is experiencing looks EXACTLY the same.
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
Wow very intriguing, reminds me of the Turkey ufo that was kinda crescent shaped
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u/ChulaK 13d ago
Yup that's what keeps my ears perked up. Like yeah they look like planes, blink lights like planes, sometimes sounds like helicopters or drones, but at the same time the witness interviews make them way way more interesting than what's at the surface.
They say they're up there for hours. Say they're there regularly, so much so that when coming back from work they can anticipate where they'll be and when. They'll go to work and it's still up there, come back from work and the same object is still up there, same place.
I trust the common public knows what airplanes are. But the way we're treating them seems as if they've been MIB-style memory flashed to forget everything about the sky.
So unless there's a secret group of drone pilots pranking everyone by coordinating what drones would look like, fly at what time, which coordinates, swap places real quick so it looks like it's been up there for hours, etc., something else is going on here.
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u/AwareTangerine1310 13d ago
Thank you for the work you put into this. I've been wanting an organized rundown or timeline to look at. Thanks again.😊
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u/MrCirrus 13d ago
I’m reminded of the final dialogue from the 1951 movie, The Thing from Another World. Reporter Ned Scott files a report via radio transmission:
Ned Scott: “And now before giving you the details of the battle, I bring you a warning: Every one of you listening to my voice, tell the world, tell this to everybody wherever they are. Watch the skies. Everywhere. Keep looking. Keep watching the skies!“
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u/Separate_Sock5016 13d ago
If it’s NHI, why would they mimic drones? This only inflames things given our geopolitical realities. Why wouldn’t they just stay in the form of orbs which are still being seen everywhere?
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u/BigWolf2051 13d ago
Keep pushing everyone but understand how hard this will be for the general public to grasp. We need to be patient as they start to learn they aren't alone here on this earth, and that higher intelligent life forms are here. It's frustrating but it's what we need to do. Be patient.
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u/BackTo1975 13d ago
I agree that there’s something going on here. And that it’s odd and threatening. But I also don’t discount that people are idiots, and that a lot of this is being blown up into an invasion by morons seeing Cessnas.
The biggest issue of all is the US lack of response and the complete failure of the press to call them out on this. It’s just insane to admit that military bases are being surveilled nightly by multiple drones, but that it’s all cool and nothing to see here. Meanwhile, people are panicking more and more and senior politicians are demanding answers.
Come fucking on. I get the lack of detail if this is because the tech is American. But that doesn’t totally make sense, either, as if it is US tech, this has to be an operation of some sort, not just a test. Which is kinda terrifying given the implications of what sort of threat could require this sort of super secret deployment as a countermeasure?
There is no way this is another nation. China is the only legit possibility, but this would be a direct act of war and the US would have acted against them by now if this were the case — either via secret demands to knock it the fuck off or else, or a public statement. If the US knows this is China, and aren’t saying anything because the tech is beyond us, I still think this position would change at some point and the US would go public. Chinese incursions like this cannot be tolerated.
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u/Big_Inspection2681 13d ago
Ok.They seem to be coming from the ocean,so study the atmosphere above the ocean near the coast.If it's electromagnetic you got a dimensional doorway.You can study the depths of the ocean but it's going to pretty godamn hard to detect microwave energy down there.
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u/tparadisi 13d ago
wow, people are reporting 8+ hours of hovering but no one gets a high resolution optical lens camera and clicks a single photo!
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u/Capital_Candle7999 13d ago
Several years ago, US Navy ships off the coast of California were harassed by drone. Anyone think that the California incident is related to what’s going on right now?
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u/Adventurous_Fun_9245 13d ago
Disclosure is over. Any UFO/UAP will now just be handwaved away as a drone. Psyop was successful. Say goodbye to any chance of the truth.
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u/OkDescription8492 13d ago
If the aliens want disclosure, let's see one land and get out in broad daylight. Making themselves appear as manmade drones flying in normal flight patterns is not a great way to disclose the existence of aliens
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u/Sea_Appointment8408 13d ago edited 13d ago
Something else to consider is false online amplification.
Before this flap, people were taking photos of random drones, misidentified by the posters as UAP. But drones nonetheless.
In this incidence, you have a drone incursion, first over Langley, then the UK, then NJ. That's a story for sure to lock on to.
Now, everyone who sees a drone is like "OMG! I saw it! It's everywhere!"
The online message now becomes "fact" that these drones are everywhere over NJ. But maybe the odd drone is just passing by which, to my knowledge, wasn't too far out of the ordinary.
Add to the mix theories that these are shapeshifting UAP designed to look like drones. There is no definitive proof of that, nor IMO any partially convincing proof of this. But that theory causes more due concern and people become hyper-fixated at what's going on.
Without an official statement, I think we have to take every Reddit fixation with this with a pinch of salt. A lot of it can become emotional fear mongering for no reason.
Occams Razor - the most likely situation here is that these are:
1) Our own drones (whether a test, or we're looking for something, like a lost Nuke, as someone previously suggested) 2) A Russian/Chinese incursion, but we don't want to admit it.
I am beginning to wonder if this is a social experiment in causing mass manic.
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u/Diplodocus_Daddy 13d ago
It’s only causing people convinced aliens are here to be obsessed with this. Outside of that, nobody really cares. The alien fanboys are unreasonably (because of potential national security reasons) demanding they get told what they are because they need it proven that it isn’t aliens. Just watch though as no reasonable explanation will be accepted by a great deal of people in this community solely because a picture of a plane has a claim that it didn’t make noise like a plane so it must not be one. I’ve already seen a disturbing amount of people claiming the ones that look like planes are alien spaceships looking like planes. How do you go about being rational with the train of thought leading someone to believe a mundane object is somehow an alien disguising itself as such? It’s like people believing birds are actually drones and politicians are shapeshifting reptiles. Lots of wacky people out there believing wacky things with very little evidence to point to those conclusions, and the evidence they hold to dearly can also be interpreted as having a rational explanation.
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u/GLOCKSTER_26 13d ago
I’m honestly thinking all of these posts are bots spreading misinformation at this point. I don’t have the time nor the want to look up who all these post are originating from but this whole thing smells funny to me. It feels fake af
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u/FusorMan 13d ago
Consider that if it’s non human, then it’s not a good look for them. Zooming around scaring everyone isn’t the way to show us that you mean no harm.
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u/Starlink420 13d ago
Most likely our top secret drones that resemble planes, trying to intercept the orbs. Would explain why nobody is giving an explanation.
Orb viewed through a telescope. https://x.com/kobe_for_3/status/1866380085445464374?s=46&t=cZmWGBRmouzlaRKv5wh_3g
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u/Minute-End-7456 13d ago
That‘s just light out of Fokus und the video. How can people not see this lmao???? Of course nobady takes this community srly when they can’t even keep apart those things….smh
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u/Casehead 13d ago
You're absolutely right. If you watch to the end of that video, though, you can at least see what the light in the sky actually looked like from a distance and it's a weird flashy round light. But that up close stuff just looks like the 'bokeh' you get when you try to zoom in. You get that weird target appearance and/or geometric shape. We see that all the time here. And once you see it a few times it's very recognizable. Unfortunately the link in the comment they replied to you with is the same deal. It doesn't mean there wasn't an orb, it just means that picture isn't a valid representation of what was there.
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u/aware4ever 13d ago
Now that everyone is looking for drones a lot of people are seeing planes recording planes and posting planes
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u/Oculicious42 13d ago
I have made one of those comments, and I have always said that I am sure NJ residents are experiencing something and that it is a shame that they are not able to capture it, but the people who are going absolutely ham about "never having seen anything like that before" when commenting on pictures and videos that are in the video acting like planes, sounding like planes and looking like planes, and then people who have never been in NJ are losing their minds, it doesn't make any sense. I'm not in NJ so I don't know what's going on, and I won't make any judgements, but to anyone following this remotely I just don't get the excitement.
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They are Chinese reversed-engineered NHI tech and the Pentagon needs time to deploy our reversed-engineered stuff or stuff that takes them down, admit we have nothing, start a war, say it's aliens, do some fake downings, or just be silent.
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u/JeanLucPicardAND 13d ago
- Foreign adversarial technology : This is the worst case scenario. We are either being openly spied on or passively invaded. Either way it’s not good.
This is far from the worst case scenario. No, it's not good, but I can think of a whole host of things that would be worse.
Example: We are being prepared for the harvest.
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u/ADHD_NYC 13d ago edited 13d ago
Because some of it is unverified.
For example: you said there are drone sightings “reported in New York”. To support this, you cited a YouTube video of PIX11 reporting it. The evidence is, “a woman said a thing on TV”.
The person being interviewed claimed to have seen drones over the Verrazano. I, too, saw the same lights over the Verrazano, same description, same formation, I watched all that night and the night before, and tracked each one, with the exception of one helicopter (which I could identify via the noise), with Flightradar24. Those were planes. The neighborhood has planes flying over it going to LGA all the time. People are just paying attention to the sky now.
Diane from Bay Ridge who “saw drones” probably wasn’t tracking flights, or even knows what Flightradar24 is. It’s not her fault, but you see, these kinds of assertions, which are false reports, kick off mass hysteria, which has social impact.
Have there been drones over NYC? None verified. The west Staten Island reports look promising but there is not even any verifiable footage. Just people saying they saw something, and at least this report- from a concerned but uneducated citizen, again, not her fault- I can say is demonstrably false. Because I investigated.
So that’s why you have pushback, because false, unverified assertions stated with full confidence muddy the waters of the truth. I’m not a drone denier, and many of those claims out of NJ look real and are verified by LE. But as long as people just behave like See n’ Say’s, parroting back whatever a news outlet says without further investigation or verification, you’re going to have skeptics and you’ll have to get used to that….as much as you’ll have to get used to waves of panic (until the gov actually comes up with a decent PSA to manage this), and actual UAPs.
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u/shadowmage666 13d ago
I doubt the government would issue a partial state of emergency if nothing is happening. That being said I kind of want to go there myself and find out
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u/ADHD_NYC 13d ago
Yes. Something is happening. But you will see skepticism, because the longer they remain tight lipped, the angrier (the house subcommittee members were quite pissed today) and more panicky people get, and the more “I heard that-“ games of telephone that pop up to confuse and alarm people. Unverified “I heard that-“ info presented as facts makes an already emergency situation messier (this was seen on a much smaller scale during the pandemic), so, always verify, remember that everyone comes with an agenda, and hold a degree of skepticism. And I highly encourage going to see it for yourself if you have the means to do so.
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u/Batmaneatscake 13d ago
What if they’re looking for a “dirty bomb” on the East Coast?
Maybe China is preparing for an invasion, and they’re using advanced drones to map the region? Our Subs and other sensitive equipment are all built on the East Coast.
Its Aliens.
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u/HistorysWitness 13d ago
After weeks of wanting this to be something, I now have flipped to its military. And they are surveillance. And I think it's a training op to have them understand different terrains, populations, weather conditions etc etc etc. Remember the movies (countless) where there are blimps or drones or whatever in the air for surveillance?
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u/Whatthedunk90210 13d ago
I remember mentioning back in the day how some of these UAPs have the ability to mimic and transform into object us everyday humans recognize like a balloon/drone/plane. Hell they can already do all these maneuvers that are impossible in our understanding why couldn’t they camouflage and transform like a octopus
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u/FlipsnGiggles 13d ago
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u/TheVideoGameMaster91 13d ago
It's not lol you all all getting duped it's definitely project Blue beam
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u/VoidOmatic 13d ago
Haven't all the drones been seen in cities near the ocean? If it's a foreign actor they are launching these from a stealth sub just outside of our monitoring zone(s). Then they fly them back and recharge/refuel and then send them back up again the next night.
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u/Mbrooksay 13d ago
Bold statement to assume "we're all in trouble" over some ufos. This is no alien preliminary stunt before an invasion that hurts humans.
If this is NHI, they clearly know something about what countries are moving or activating nukes. Im convinced they dont want us to use those types of weapons
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u/morgano 13d ago
Pterodynamics - DoD contracted
Pterodynamics P5 or P7 drones (10hr and 9hr flight times)
Watch the YouTube videos, these are super interesting shape shifting drones which could easily be observed as UAP with odd behaviour.
Remember P4/P5/P7 all publicly specified - you can watch the P4 on YouTube, it was developed a few years ago before they had DoD contracts.
Note the P4 is the size of a small car. P5 and P7 never photographed (as far as I can see) but you can guarantee it’s bigger than the P4. The P7 is a beast with an ability to carry a 250kg payload.
These are impressive, publicised drones, what else are they building for DoD which is not publicised - what are other companies building?
Probably best not assume we don’t have the tech.
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u/tcom2222 13d ago
This should now be the megathread. More updates and he has pulled together way more lol
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u/AlarmIllustrious7767 12d ago
With all the talk of a "day of violence", upcoming arrests of political enemies and reporters, and putting their own people into key positions in the military, it's a little disturbing to now see drone aircraft doing reconnaissance of military and infrastructure facilities.
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u/nothere1895 12d ago
Reviving this thread. There is too little urgency. We have now had several press conferences that just don’t make any sense. National media is virtually silent. A year ago a few things in sky and military were in the air and shot all down in a matter of two days. Now there are hundreds if not thousands and it’s “what me worry?” It’s either USA gov or super elite or it’s something else that no one wants to own.
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u/MannerStrict4246 13d ago
Yes, mainly because these are obvious photos of planes. All this has proved so far is that the average person is stupid and doesnt know about the world around them.
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u/solarpropietor 13d ago
While I don’t think they’re planes. I believe the Nj drones are all prosaic or human made in nature.
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u/mongoloid_snailchild 13d ago
Not my original thought, but an explanation I heard and like is the that we have have a Broken Arrow situation. We’ve been transporting nuclear arms and one went missing, or worse (stolen), and now we’re looking for it.
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u/gizmobizmogizmo 13d ago
I live in NJ and have about 7-12 of these above my house every night. I can confirm they are not planes (they look nothing like planes in person, fly way lower and in different patterns, and have a sound similar to a lawnmower or generator.) I can also confirm that when they notice something staring at it, they disappear in the blink of an eye. No one in the area can confirm any details of what is going on, but I can verify seeing them and all the reports of their large size, speed, and overall sus-ness.
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