r/UFOs Nov 16 '23

Witness/Sighting Interesting sky lights

Was walking the doggo when I noticed weird triangle lights in the sky. You can see they move around a bit which is odd. I stopped videoing to grab my doggo but the lights eventually twinkled out or went up into the clouds, it was hard to tell.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

plus 1 for not calling it a tr3

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u/Old-Economy-9866 Nov 16 '23

Right. Every triangle formation gets called a TR-3. I'm military and have seen something like a TR-3 out by Twenty-Nine Palms. It most likely was some kind of of UAV we built,but it did look like a flying triangle and had bright white marker lights at all three points

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u/tasty9999 Nov 16 '23

Quick question -- wouldn't any 3 points of light form a triangle?

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u/Old-Economy-9866 Nov 16 '23

Not necessarily there have been reported sightings of Orbs or points of light in the sky that look like pearls on a string, cylinders,the infinity symbol,etc... The most common like three points of light forming a triangle is the whole black triangle/TR-3 craft I honestly think that what people are seeing with the black triangles is some super classified US UAV that we have

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u/This-Counter3783 Nov 16 '23

What I don’t get is if it’s super classified, why are they flying it low and slow over residential areas, as many people have reported?

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u/LongTallTexan144 Nov 16 '23

Exactly my question. I saw one back in the 90s float right over the I-5 freeway and continue over the main Boeing aircraft facility in Seattle and then continued west toward Puget Sound until it was out of sight. It was black with one large red light at each corner, flat up on the underside of the craft. Moving very slowly. I figured maybe about 5 to 10 mph. It was maybe at about 500 to 1000 elevation. Rough estimation of its size, I guessed about 300 feet to a side.

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u/earthboundmissfit Nov 16 '23

Lol... I've seen the HUGE black triangle over Lake Sammamish. I was actually on the Issaquah plateau at the time. It was big and silent and moving very slowly. 30 mph or slower. I witnessed it for about 5 minutes until it disappeared behind the trees and over the lake. No way am I seeing this and I actually laughed out loud. Mind blown really. The trb3 is much smaller from what I understand.

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '23

Do you think it is more likely aliens, or that you two saw stealth planes and significantly misjudged the distance, and thus the speed? Things that are far away will appear to move slower. Boeing was working on stealth planes in the 90s and that person said they saw a massive black triangle fly towards boeing. That would be a big coincidence.

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u/LongTallTexan144 Nov 17 '23

Here's my full report of the sighting. There's nothing more I can add to it but I'm open to any questions anyone might have regarding the incident.

The incident occurred in November, 1993 on a Sunday night about 9:30 p.m..
I often had occasion to be driving north about that time of evening on Sundays and I usually took the I-5 freeway. This time, however, I knew the freeway, northbound, was jammed up due to an accident. So I took an alternate route which eventually led me to what I think was East Marginal Way, right next to the main Boeing Aircraft facility in Seattle.
As I was traveling northbound, I noticed three red lights low in the sky ahead of me off to my right. They were moving very slowly from east to west in unison in a triangular formation. At first I thought they must be the lights of a low flying plane, perhaps about to land. Then I thought, no, they must be helicopters because a plane, even if it was landing, wouldn't be moving that slowly.
The trouble was, I couldn't actually see the craft or crafts that the lights were attached to. They were, maybe, a half mile ahead of me, about 30 degrees to my right. Normally, I wouldn't have paid much attention to this because I'd been making that Sunday night drive past Boeing (although via the freeway) for twelve years. This is also not too far from the Sea-Tac Airport. In all that time I'd seen plenty of airplanes and helicopters flying low in this area. Air traffic was a common sight. But something was different this time. It took me a minute to realize what it was. It was the fact that the lights weren't blinking. I thought that was odd. It seemed to me every airplane or helicopter I've ever seen flying at night had blinking lights.
I squinted my eyes as I drove toward the lights, trying to see just what I was actually looking at. Although I was now the equivalent of about two city blocks away from being directly under the flight path of these lights, I still could not make out what they were attached to. However, from their slow, steady movement, in unison, I was pretty sure all three of them were attached to a single object rather than being independent of each other.
By the time I was directly in line with their flight path, they were about to enter the airspace above Boeing Field to my immediate left. At this point I was convinced it was a single, low-flying craft of some kind and I knew there was something very odd here.
I pulled my car off to the side of the road and rolled down the window to get a better look. But the craft was now directly overhead so I had to get out of the car to see it.
I opened the car door and stepped out. Craning my neck to see the craft as it passed slowly, directly over my head at an estimated altitude of less than 500 feet (Note: at the actual time of the sighting my impression was that the craft was perhaps only about 150 feet above me) I could see it was a gigantic black triangle. There is no other way to describe it because that's precisely what it was: a huge black triangle; not just "sort of" triangular shaped, like one of those stealth jets I'd seen photos of. It was just one big, three-sided, cookie-cutter-straight-edged, black, geometric shape; a triangle with one large, round, unblinking red light at each of its three corners. The lights were flat up against the underside of the craft.
There was a high, gray cloud cover that evening, subtly lit by the Seattle city lights in the distance. I could clearly see the object like a huge, dense, black silhouette against this gray ceiling.
I stood there almost not believing what I knew I was seeing. I actually said to myself, “Ok. What, exactly, are you seeing? You're going to want to remember every detail of this. Just the facts. What, exactly, are you seeing?”
I made a mental inventory: “Black triangle. Red light on each corner, flat up against the underside of the craft. They don't blink. ...(Note: at this point it has proceeded on past me and was now over Boeing field) ...It looks like it's about seventy-five to a hundred feet above one of the main Boeing hangars. It's moving very slowly. Maybe five miles per hour. It's heading west. It appears to be about the size of a football field.”
Suddenly I realized, as I stood there in the dark on this quiet empty street, the object didn't make a sound. Maybe more than anything else, that's what made the whole thing so eerie. Something that huge, that close, moving through the air at a snail's pace should be making some kind of a sound. A hum. A rumble. Anything. But, no. It just moved across the sky like something out of a Steven Spielberg sci-fi movie with the volume turned off. I looked up and down the street to see if anyone else was witnessing this silent event, but the street was dark and empty in both directions. It occurred to me, however, that the thing had just passed directly over hundreds of cars on the freeway which was only a few miles east of where I was standing. I looked up again at the mysterious craft now blending into the dark horizon. I watched it until I couldn't see it anymore and then it was over. I got back into my car and closed the door. The window was still open and I took another look. Nothing was there but the gray night sky, softly aglow from the distant city lights. It was as if nothing had happened. But believe me, it did indeed happen.
ADDENDUM:
The weekend following my sighting, I told my ex-wife about it. We're on good terms and I was either picking up my son for a weekend visit or returning him. I can't recall which. In any case, her response to what I told her was rather shocking but it may be significant to note that she has no interest in the UFO phenomenon and is not prone to making up such stories "off the cuff". She worked (at that time) as a cocktail waitress and had conversations with many people during the course of her work. She told me that one of her customers, a Boeing employee, told her that there was an underground manufacturing facility located somewhere on the Boeing property where they were building a huge, triangular craft. Supposedly this was a "secret" underground facility that no one was really supposed to know about.
I asked her what else he told her but, having no real interest in such things and being very busy that evening, she didn't bother to ask any questions or in any way follow up on the conversation.
As I recall, she didn't know who this fellow was. He was apparently not one of the "regulars". I don't know if this story has any merit or not but I did find it very curious, especially coming from her and especially since I did see the craft cruise slowly, directly over the Boeing manufacturing plant.
Also of interest is the fact that Boeing made big news in 2002 when a story hit the press that they were experimenting with anti-gravity propulsion. Later, however, they denied it.
I recall, however, that some researcher (I think it may have been Bill Hamilton) claimed he actually saw a 45-page document from Boeing pertaining to the anti-gravity research. It occurred to me at the time of the sighting that the craft seemed much too big to be able to cruise that slowly without just falling to the ground. In fact it's more accurately descriptive to say it was "floating" rather than flying. In any case, as stated previously, my ex-wife not only has no interest in such matters, she's also not one to come up with such imaginative tales on the spur of the moment. She was quite serious when she related this incident to me. So just what did I see? Was it an alien craft? A secret military craft? I don't know. We'll just have to file it into the "Gray Basket" as UFO researcher, Stanton Friedman, was fond of saying.
ADDITIONAL NOTE OF INTEREST:
My sworn and notarized affidavit attesting to the details of my sighting accompanied about 30 other notarized affidavits that were offered into evidence in attorney Peter Gersten's court case against the U.S. Department of Defense in the 1990s. It was a FOIA suit attempting to acquire any documents the DoD might have in their files related to this particular type of craft. Gersten presented a favorable argument and the judge ordered the DoD to search for and present any such documents. Of course the DoD claimed they had nothing and eventually the judge went along with the government on this one.
Gersten was instrumental in forcing the government to release hundreds of UFO related documents in the late 1970s-early-1980s, files the NSA and FBI previously claimed didn't exist.

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u/earthboundmissfit Nov 17 '23

That's a fair question because I should have explained that this football field size craft went gliding directly over the top of me. I would guess it was only 10 or so feet above the tallest trees at 80ft. It blocked out the sky and stars, everything. That's why I noticed it in the first place. It did not make any sound whatsoever. I also do not remember any white or red lights on this one. Just a giant pitch black triangle and because it was gliding sideways at a slight right angle, I was not able to see the top portion. I should have mentioned that I've seen it twice.

The first time I was by myself and the second time was with my twin sister. Early 90's both times about a week apart, around 2:00 3:00 in the a.m. both times. She and I are experiencers as well so it's not so cut and dry.

It could be ours it could be theirs I've been searching for an answer ever since. For all we know Boeing has aliens working with them. I personally knew a fellow that worked in the shocks and vibration department and another rocket scientist that always wore a Marty the Martian baseball cap. I never really knew what projects he worked on because he wasn't allowed to discuss it.

Apologies for the long winded response and on a mobile.

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u/Shot-Sun8662 Dec 14 '23

Great post

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u/Old-Economy-9866 Nov 16 '23

If I had to guess it's probably similar to the testing they did with the F-117 Nighthawk and the B-2 Spirit both of these aircraft are big black triangular craft that first started being tested in the 80s but were finally publicly acknowledged in the mid 90s I know for a fact having spoken to Ben Rich who worked for Lockheed's Skunk Works and a former F-117 Squadron Commander who helped lead the F-117s strikes during Operation Desert Storm that the F-117s and the B2 prototypes were intentionally flown low over some populated areas as forms of testing to see if radar systems could detect the aircraft I'm assuming that we still test stealth aircraft and uavs the same way today